Quote from: Gatsby on December 09, 2014, 04:47:59 PMAdd another to the list of reasons as to why Kinder is disliked on these forums.Add another reason why you're a faggot on these forums
Add another to the list of reasons as to why Kinder is disliked on these forums.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 05:00:04 PMQuote from: Gatsby on December 09, 2014, 04:47:59 PMAdd another to the list of reasons as to why Kinder is disliked on these forums.Add another reason why you're a faggot on these forumsThere's no reason to be upset. lmaooooooo
Quote from: Gatsby on December 09, 2014, 05:02:57 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 05:00:04 PMQuote from: Gatsby on December 09, 2014, 04:47:59 PMAdd another to the list of reasons as to why Kinder is disliked on these forums.Add another reason why you're a faggot on these forumsThere's no reason to be upset. lmaoooooooYou and chally are the upset fascists here, not me. Take your opinion intolerance back to tumblr
Alright, that will do.Either get back on topic, or drop it. Or I'll let the new ninjas shank you >_>
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 09, 2014, 05:10:02 PMAlright, that will do.Either get back on topic, or drop it. Or I'll let the new ninjas shank you >_>you guys are too nice...
People who choose punishment over rehabilitation are petty, morally insane and, most reprehensibly, idiotic. I don't care for such people.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 09, 2014, 03:56:14 PMPeople who choose punishment over rehabilitation are petty, morally insane and, most reprehensibly, idiotic. I don't care for such people.For the ones who didn't murder, I am all for some rehabilitation. Just grinds my gear they get more stuff given to them, than the average,honest and hard working citizens. Their Health care is free and better than ours too.. :/
Quote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very much
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.
Quote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminal
They're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.
If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMIf it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. Sorry, but you're just talking out your ass now.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with others
You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisons
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisons
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not me
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not me>expecting the system to teach anything that goes against the system and it's status quo>assuming this makes you an expert
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not meSick rebuttal. I liked the part where you called me butthurt and referred to your biased college classes taught by police who want you to view the world the way they do. Nobody likes to go to jail. You gain nothing from it. Deal with it.
The only thing that needs to change is more emphasis on punishment, such as 24/7 solitary confinement for murderers, gang members, and rapists
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:18:28 PMThe only thing that needs to change is more emphasis on punishment, such as 24/7 solitary confinement for murderers, gang members, and rapistsBecause there's nothing like helping the probably mentally ill with utterly no human contact, right! Yeah, no. You rehabilitate those you can, and you keep the seriously mentally ill apart from society. Prisons, in their current form, shouldn't exist any longer.
If they wanted it then they would have received it
Learning to code from a jail cell
