Quote from: Verbatim on September 14, 2014, 06:54:17 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 06:53:31 PMTranssexualism has the same definition as being transgender.Stupid.Transgender is an umbrella term for anyone who is gender nonconforming.Transsexual refers for to people that have undergone procedures to change their anatomy.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 06:53:31 PMTranssexualism has the same definition as being transgender.Stupid.
Transsexualism has the same definition as being transgender.
Transgender is an umbrella term for anyone who is gender nonconforming.Transsexual refers for to people that have undergone procedures to change their anatomy.
Maybe because people are purposely trying to stir up anger.I mean that's the entire point of this topic, right? The title alone is an obvious enough indicator.
Yes, it objectively is. Imbalanced hormones cause a literal disorder in your brain, making you think that you're a sex that you actually aren't.
You know very well what you were trying to start here.
Right, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.
Funny, because "Let the games begin!" sounds like you're doing just that.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 14, 2014, 07:12:08 PMAnd the shitstorm resumes.*sigh*Yeah, well imagine the people who have to live their entire lives dealing with this kind of bullcrap on a regular basis.Gee, I wonder where those mental problems actually come from.
And the shitstorm resumes.*sigh*
Uh... I don't think its a disorder. I mean, those people look fine to me.
Quote from: Korra on September 14, 2014, 07:21:07 PMUh... I don't think its a disorder. I mean, those people look fine to me.That's not what defines a disorder, though.
Misgendering and knowingly using the wrong name is purposely stirring up trouble.Hey, basic human respect anybody?
Quote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:21:28 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:07:17 PMRight, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.I call Noel "he" because I don't recognize transgenderism as a legitimate change of gender. Not trying to stir up anything, just standing by my beliefs.Misgendering and knowingly using the wrong name is purposely stirring up trouble.Hey, basic human respect anybody?
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:07:17 PMRight, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.I call Noel "he" because I don't recognize transgenderism as a legitimate change of gender. Not trying to stir up anything, just standing by my beliefs.
Plus this is a silly analogy.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:26:49 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:25:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:21:28 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:07:17 PMRight, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.I call Noel "he" because I don't recognize transgenderism as a legitimate change of gender. Not trying to stir up anything, just standing by my beliefs.Misgendering and knowingly using the wrong name is purposely stirring up trouble.Hey, basic human respect anybody?If I said that I believed I was a bear at heart, and demanded you call me "it", and that my new name was "Rrrragh", would you do that? Same exact thing.I don't see why not. It's the internet, after all. Who the fuck cares?Generally "it" is a bit offensive though, so I might use "they" instead.
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:25:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:21:28 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:07:17 PMRight, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.I call Noel "he" because I don't recognize transgenderism as a legitimate change of gender. Not trying to stir up anything, just standing by my beliefs.Misgendering and knowingly using the wrong name is purposely stirring up trouble.Hey, basic human respect anybody?If I said that I believed I was a bear at heart, and demanded you call me "it", and that my new name was "Rrrragh", would you do that? Same exact thing.
Why, because someone is here to actually defend the otherwise largely targeted and mocked?
I'm sorry this isn't going the path or your usual political shitfests where everyone makes fun of Kinder.
Well sorry if I'm a little peeved to see the path this thread immediately went before I got involved.
"the mysterious stranger said they were coming for a visit"
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 14, 2014, 07:30:49 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:28:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:26:49 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:25:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:21:28 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:07:17 PMRight, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.I call Noel "he" because I don't recognize transgenderism as a legitimate change of gender. Not trying to stir up anything, just standing by my beliefs.Misgendering and knowingly using the wrong name is purposely stirring up trouble.Hey, basic human respect anybody?If I said that I believed I was a bear at heart, and demanded you call me "it", and that my new name was "Rrrragh", would you do that? Same exact thing.I don't see why not. It's the internet, after all. Who the fuck cares?Generally "it" is a bit offensive though, so I might use "they" instead.No matter how hard I try, I can not bring myself to refer to an individual with a plural pronoun. I've since found it much simpler to just not use pronouns for trans people at all, even if it looks a tad unnatural. Nobody gets offended and my inner grammar nazi is satisfied.Actually the original definition of they/them/their was both singular and plural. It wasn't until recently that it was changed. Plus, say there's a mystery person whose gender you're unaware of. How would most people talk about them? "the mysterious stranger said they were coming for a visit"
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:28:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:26:49 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:25:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 07:21:28 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:07:17 PMRight, and that's exactly why you respond the way you do. Like the way you misgendered Noelle in plug.dj and other places. Totally not trying to stir up anger, right?Don't make me start quoting things from this thread.I call Noel "he" because I don't recognize transgenderism as a legitimate change of gender. Not trying to stir up anything, just standing by my beliefs.Misgendering and knowingly using the wrong name is purposely stirring up trouble.Hey, basic human respect anybody?If I said that I believed I was a bear at heart, and demanded you call me "it", and that my new name was "Rrrragh", would you do that? Same exact thing.I don't see why not. It's the internet, after all. Who the fuck cares?Generally "it" is a bit offensive though, so I might use "they" instead.No matter how hard I try, I can not bring myself to refer to an individual with a plural pronoun. I've since found it much simpler to just not use pronouns for trans people at all, even if it looks a tad unnatural. Nobody gets offended and my inner grammar nazi is satisfied.
I'm not pinning all the blame on you, so don't take it that way.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:48:59 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:39:48 PMI'm not pinning all the blame on you, so don't take it that way.You shouldn't pin any blame on me. You consent to the inevitable controversy that comes from discussing controversial topics when you enter this board.So you're saying I should just ignore everything in here since it's offensive and not have a say at all?
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:39:48 PMI'm not pinning all the blame on you, so don't take it that way.You shouldn't pin any blame on me. You consent to the inevitable controversy that comes from discussing controversial topics when you enter this board.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 14, 2014, 07:40:52 PMQuote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:33:13 PM"the mysterious stranger said they were coming for a visit"Singular they is to be discouraged at all times, yet may be acceptable when noun/pronoun disagreement cannot be avoided.Anyway, the sentence still instinctively reads as if multiple people are coming."Somebody left their umbrella in the office. Would they please collect it?""That person said they don't know where to go""The student failed their exam""When I tell someone a joke they laugh"Also the singular use of they/them/their goes back to the 14th century.
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:33:13 PM"the mysterious stranger said they were coming for a visit"Singular they is to be discouraged at all times, yet may be acceptable when noun/pronoun disagreement cannot be avoided.Anyway, the sentence still instinctively reads as if multiple people are coming.
Is transgenderism a mental disorder?
