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How many genders do you recognize?

Two
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More than two
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How many genders do you recognize?

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Quote from: Lady Noelle on September 21, 2014, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on September 21, 2014, 02:47:16 PM
I really don't see the need to argue here. there are obviously two biological genders male and female, whether you express yourself in the stereotypical masculine/feminine nature is a separate entity entirely. You can't dodge genetics.
Gender and sex are two completely different things, learn the difference.


I realize, It's just odd to imagine that anyone would distinguish themselves as anything other than a man or woman based on the two sexes and their stereotypical behaviors.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: Jocephalopod on September 21, 2014, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: Lady Noelle on September 21, 2014, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on September 21, 2014, 02:47:16 PM
I really don't see the need to argue here. there are obviously two biological genders male and female, whether you express yourself in the stereotypical masculine/feminine nature is a separate entity entirely. You can't dodge genetics.
Gender and sex are two completely different things, learn the difference.


I realize, It's just odd to imagine that anyone would distinguish themselves as anything other than a man or woman based on the two sexes and their stereotypical behaviors.
It's not that hard to believe honestly. Living in a state of androgyny can be a very enlightening experience that let's you have a taste of what it's like being either gender. Plus freedom of expression and all that.

As far as the spectrum goes, some people are more comfortable identifying with both genders while others feel completely detached and genderless. But really the only time it really gets ridiculous is when people expect you to start using made up pronouns.
Last Edit: September 21, 2014, 03:35:26 PM by Nuka

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Fucking mobile. Give me a sec.

 
 
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Hmm...
Quote from: Lady Noelle on September 21, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: PSU on September 21, 2014, 01:50:23 PM
What you mean?
You know exactly what I mean, but I guess I will waste my time explaining it anyway. There are two sexes, male and female, which are dependent upon what sexual organs you are born with. Gender, something that is entirely different than sex, is determined by what you identify as, and there are numerous genders, because gender is a spectrum.
Even that's not true 100% of the time. There are variations and 'errors' that produce a person with strange chromosomal or genital combinations.

I'd say it's naive to believe gender is a strict binary when the more concrete sex isn't always so.

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I don't recognize genders. I don't like to label people. But if this poll is confusing Gender with someone's sex, I voted 2 for that.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on September 21, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
But if this poll is confusing Gender with someone's sex, I voted 2 for that.
It's not.

 
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Obviously more than two, I'm not a fucking moron. Why is this even a question?

 
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Quote from: Nuka on September 21, 2014, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: Decimator Omega on September 21, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
But if this poll is confusing Gender with someone's sex, I voted 2 for that.
It's not.

Well.... Shit. I can't change my vote.

 
 
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Quote from: Lady Noelle on September 21, 2014, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: PSU on September 21, 2014, 01:50:23 PM
What you mean?
You know exactly what I mean, but I guess I will waste my time explaining it anyway. There are two sexes, male and female, which are dependent upon what sexual organs you are born with. Gender, something that is entirely different than sex, is determined by what you identify as, and there are numerous genders, because gender is a spectrum.

The people here who try and make jokes about identifying as helicopters or bears are complete morons. You are trying to make a joke about something you do not understand and making yourself look like a fucking tool in the process. So like I said, there are too many idiots on this forum to have discussions like this. They either have no idea what gender means or try to joke about the subject and make it seem unimportant.



Is this part of your spectrum? All jokes aside, gender is more or less a self representation differentiating between male/female.
Last Edit: September 21, 2014, 10:11:42 PM by Blazed Iron

 
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Only two. The others have to do with the special snowflake complex.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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I don't really care, identify as a frog if you want.
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I recognize infinite actual identities, one for each person, and however much labels that people need to communicate those identities to others. Sometimes the amount of labels can be a bit ridiculous though. I'm not opposed to people identifying outside the binary spectrum - but a handful of labels should be more than enough. If someone is more interested in hearing how you identify specifically, then explain in more detail.

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2, 5, 1 billlion, it doesn't matter. Gender is just another concept us sentient beings measure ourselves with. Ultimately, it's meaningless. You just are the way you are.

Ftr for every-day purposes I consider myself to be male since I fit the definition.
Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 05:42:31 PM by DemonicChronic

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I don't recognize any gender, only what sex you are, as all genders do is piss people off for one reason or another. differentiating between what gender(s) a person associates with is like trying to navigate a fucking minefield.

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Pretty much only 2

 
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Two.

 
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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Two, but frankly I don't give a fuck what people decide to assign themselves so long as they are happy with it.


It doesn't concern me as I'm not them, and they shouldn't concern themselves with my stance on the subject because they are not me. Does that make sense?

 
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The whole trans/homo movement is anti-clinical, at best. Clearly there's something wrong going on (because it isn't natural nor healthy). Sure it's easier to tell someone that they're actually fine, but the right thing to do, the harder thing to do, is to get them to seek help.

 
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I really do not care what gender you are and if you even fall on the spectrum. You can create your own gender of super red pony pointer and I would still not care. Largely we have a binary of sexes (male and female on opposite sides of the spectrum with transgender people existing on both ends even if the parts do not match up to their gender) and gender is a spectrum.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
ugh. okay.
I don't want to do this but I didn't get to post my response in the other thread.

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Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 12:17:34 AM
Noelle is a girl.
Say what you want, but this is objectively incorrect.
Never mind the fact that you're wrong, you have no proof anyway.
I don't feel like getting banned for "derailing" (translation: disagreeing with the TG "movement"), but I have plenty of proof. The most obvious being that Noel admits to being born a male. And whatever gender you're born as is what you always will be.
Sorry bud, but sex and gender are still different things.
Regardless. As I've proven before, there are people who are physically born outside the binary. Also, people who have had their legal documents changed are legally that gender no matter how much it rustles your jimmies.

"Disagreeing" with something is not an excuse to purposely dismiss someone's identity. You can not "agree" with homosexual relationships because you think they're "objectively wrong", but you still acknowledge their existence as a homosexual couple.

 
 
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Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 01:16:43 AM
ugh. okay.
I don't want to do this but I didn't get to post my response in the other thread.

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Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 01:07:16 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 30, 2014, 01:03:25 AM
Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 12:17:34 AM
Noelle is a girl.
Say what you want, but this is objectively incorrect.
Never mind the fact that you're wrong, you have no proof anyway.
I don't feel like getting banned for "derailing" (translation: disagreeing with the TG "movement"), but I have plenty of proof. The most obvious being that Noel admits to being born a male. And whatever gender you're born as is what you always will be.
Sorry bud, but sex and gender are still different things.
Regardless. As I've proven before, there are people who are physically born outside the binary. Also, people who have had their legal documents changed are legally that gender no matter how much it rustles your jimmies.

"Disagreeing" with something is not an excuse to purposely dismiss someone's identity. You can not "agree" with homosexual relationships because you think they're "objectively wrong", but you still acknowledge their existence as a homosexual couple.
Not talking about birth defects here. And it doesn't "rustle my jimmies" (God, I hate myself just for typing out that phrase) at all. Just because the law recognizes something doesn't make it right.

If someone insisted on being identified as a teddy bear, would you treat them as such and enable that lifestyle? No, you would get them psychiatric help. Same thing with transgenderism. You're identifying as something you factually are not. And you can keep cramming this "sex and gender aren't synonyms" bullshit down my throat as much as you'd like, but that doesn't make it true. When your employer asks for your gender on a job application, he's not asking what kind of special snowflake you are. He's asking whether you have a penis or a vagina.
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Hmm...
Quote from: SecondClass on September 30, 2014, 01:28:34 AM
Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 01:16:43 AM
ugh. okay.
I don't want to do this but I didn't get to post my response in the other thread.

Quote from: SecondClass on September 30, 2014, 01:09:38 AM
Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 01:07:16 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 30, 2014, 01:03:25 AM
Quote from: Nuka on September 30, 2014, 12:17:34 AM
Noelle is a girl.
Say what you want, but this is objectively incorrect.
Never mind the fact that you're wrong, you have no proof anyway.
I don't feel like getting banned for "derailing" (translation: disagreeing with the TG "movement"), but I have plenty of proof. The most obvious being that Noel admits to being born a male. And whatever gender you're born as is what you always will be.
Sorry bud, but sex and gender are still different things.
Regardless. As I've proven before, there are people who are physically born outside the binary. Also, people who have had their legal documents changed are legally that gender no matter how much it rustles your jimmies.

"Disagreeing" with something is not an excuse to purposely dismiss someone's identity. You can not "agree" with homosexual relationships because you think they're "objectively wrong", but you still acknowledge their existence as a homosexual couple.
Not talking about birth defects here. And it doesn't "rustle my jimmies" (God, I hate myself just for typing out that phrase) at all. Just because the law recognizes something doesn't make it right.

If someone insisted on being identified as a teddy bear, would you treat them as such and enable that lifestyle? No, you would get them psychiatric help. Same thing with transgenderism. You're identifying as something you factually are not. And you can keep cramming this "sex and gender aren't synonyms" bullshit down my throat as much as you'd like, but that doesn't make it true. When your employer asks for your gender on a job application, he's not asking what kind of special snowflake you are. He's asking whether you have a penis or a vagina.
Say there's someone who looks very much like a man, but they were born female and have a vagina. Say they took hormones, so they have a deeper voice and body hair.

Which restroom should this person use? Mens or Womens?

 
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