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On the contrary, it is the Christians who must explain it.

LOL at people who don't believe in ghost/spirits. So delusional.

LOL at people who don't believe in ghost/spirits. So delusional.

I see no reason to believe in them. I remain open-minded about it, however, since there's a lot of 2sp00py shit out there.

Although, I'm incredibly sceptical, since a lot of it can be explained by psychology and neuroscience. Besides, I haven't seen anything to suggest that something could facilitate the existence of ghosts, let alone suggest that the ghosts themselves exist.

LOL at people who don't believe in ghost/spirits. So delusional.

I have no reason to believe in them.

LOL at people who don't believe in ghost/spirits. So delusional.

Never seen one nor seen any evidence of one, despite my mother's claims that a little girl's spirit resides in the attic of her house. In my opinion, she's the crazy one.

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Quote from: PSU on September 17, 2014, 09:27:12 AM

LOL at people who don't believe in ghost/spirits. So delusional.

I have no reason to believe in them.

Thats cool. I do.

That's fine, but you're going to need to present evidence if you want other people to agree.

And the evidence I will present won't convince anyone. So really no point to do it at all.

Belief in ghosts is pretty childish. And that's not an insult, or even a statement against children. We teach children about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy and the Sandman, and while I personally don't agree with this traditional practice, it's indisputable how very fun it is for children to believe in the existence of these characters. The world becomes something out of a fairytale. Then the magic disappears as soon as you learn the truth.

In a similar light, I would go out on a limb to assume that most people who believe in the existence of ghosts are indeed children, because it's fun to believe in such a thrillingly mysterious thing. It posits the tacit implication that there is life after death, and the very thought of stuff like "haunted houses" gives people the chills, similar to the type of chills they get from seeing a horror movie. It's fun to believe in ghosts. It's like playing pretend. It's like you get to keep a little piece of that childhood naivété in your psyche.

For a lot of people, the prospect of a universe with no magic or mystery in it is a very depressing one.
But it is the real one.

Proof?

As previously stated, the burden of proof isn't on me. Sorry.

You cannot prove a negative assertion. You've been told this very facile truth hundreds of times, and yet it still does not surprise me that you haven't quite learned to take responsibility yet.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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Proof?

As previously stated, the burden of proof isn't on me. Sorry.

So you can just make statements such as, there is no magic in the universe, without providing proof? Lol ok brotha.

Yes.

It's like asking an atheist for proof that God doesn't exist. Not only is that not the atheist's position but, nonetheless, you can't really prove negative claims. The onus lies on the person making the positive, or active, claim; e.g. "magic exists".

Exorcism is a load of shit, but spirits are certainly real, I base this on the events that happened during the nights at my mother's old home (story time!)

for those curious, my mother's old home was old itself, and creepy shit happened at night, namely with the doors, every single one is dead bolted, and locked each night, and at around 3-4 AM (and I've seen the shit on the surveillance footage ) the dead bolt on one door slowly slide out and the locks on the doors turn open, and by morning every single door has it's dead bolt off, and every single door on the inside of the house is opened slightly.

next is on the topic of the second floor, so when my mother had my older sister, she was dicking around upstairs when she was like 3 while my mum was down cooking supper when she hears a door slam and my sister begins crying. my mum tries to go upstairs (dad was with her as well) and she was physically pushed back every time she reached the 3rd step, my dad tries and the same shit happens. my sister bolts down stairs and was cying about a scary woman with a rope around her throat trying to get her.

soon after, my mum was assaulted by a cereal bowl that was launched at her from the counter.

2 years pass, no real activity to note, and I am born, whatever the fuck was holding them back had completely claimed the 2nd floor, there was no way up because you were being pushed on every time you got to the stairs. my family noped the fuck out. the place burned down 5 years later, and the case was never solved because there was no evidence.