Anything else is your own goddamn fault because you were being an idiot.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:24:59 AMQuote from: XxRocketsnipez420xX on January 22, 2015, 02:21:59 AMNever done them, never will.I don't want to numb my mind, I need to be aware.As if aceylpsilocin numbs the mind.Christo that was probably the most intense perception I've ever experienced.Well, not literally "numbing the mind". My mistake (though some do that).But rather, taking my eyes off what's important. Losing focus.
Quote from: XxRocketsnipez420xX on January 22, 2015, 02:21:59 AMNever done them, never will.I don't want to numb my mind, I need to be aware.As if aceylpsilocin numbs the mind.Christo that was probably the most intense perception I've ever experienced.
Never done them, never will.I don't want to numb my mind, I need to be aware.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:50:28 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:46:31 AMAnything else is your own goddamn fault because you were being an idiot.So, essentially, an idiot/moron to you is someone with who is weak willed?If you weren't prescribed by a doctor and decided to diagnose yourself and how much you should take without the proper knowledge? Yeah kinda.
Quote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:46:31 AMAnything else is your own goddamn fault because you were being an idiot.So, essentially, an idiot/moron to you is someone with who is weak willed?
You do realize that sentence was taken out of context, right? I'm talking about medical drugs.
Quote from: Comet on January 22, 2015, 02:36:44 AMno, thankfully.Wow, someone said no without being an asshole.
no, thankfully.
Quote from: Nexus on January 22, 2015, 02:39:14 AMQuote from: Comet on January 22, 2015, 02:36:44 AMno, thankfully.Wow, someone said no without being an asshole.that shit's tough, ive had family hooked on booze and pills and heroin. i try to not be an asshole.
If you fucked up with medical drugs because you either diagnosed yourself or didn't follow your doctor's directions properly and became dependent, then yes.
Quote from: Nexus on January 22, 2015, 02:39:14 AMQuote from: Comet on January 22, 2015, 02:36:44 AMno, thankfully.Wow, someone said no without being an asshole.actually, most of this thread did that.
I'll say it again: addiction is a medical condition arising from certain genetic and neurological predispositions--like all other human behaviour. Condemning druggies because they 'chose' to take drugs isn't only counter-productive, it's borderline immoral.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:55:31 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:54:47 AMYou do realize that sentence was taken out of context, right? I'm talking about medical drugs.That's fine but you still haven't answered by question.If you fucked up with medical drugs because you either diagnosed yourself or didn't follow your doctor's directions properly and became dependent, then yes.
Quote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:54:47 AMYou do realize that sentence was taken out of context, right? I'm talking about medical drugs.That's fine but you still haven't answered by question.
One time I was prescribed on antibiotics.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:39:32 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:33:27 AMI said defensive, not offensive. That. . . was a typo.QuoteQuoteI know you used to smoke weed, and the way you jumped on me when Slash has pretty obviously been playing around with dangerous substances the past few days kind of shows some defensiveness there.Regardless of what you might perceive. I'm not angry. I've had this discussion many many times before with people simply because It interests me.I'm not sure why you felt like I jumped on you, perhaps I was too offensive in saying that you were acting naive? It's w/e.Again. I only responded to this thread the way I did because I know that Slash has been abusing dangerous substances the past few days.Even though I fuck around with Camnator, I don't have issues with things like weed, tobacco, and alcohol in reasonable amounts. However I have little to no tolerance for just about everything else. Medical drugs weren't really something I thought about when I posted that, and the only time I'd be sympathetic is if someone ended up dependent after being prescribed by a doctor. Anything else is your own goddamn fault because you were being an idiot.
Quote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:33:27 AMI said defensive, not offensive. That. . . was a typo.QuoteQuoteI know you used to smoke weed, and the way you jumped on me when Slash has pretty obviously been playing around with dangerous substances the past few days kind of shows some defensiveness there.Regardless of what you might perceive. I'm not angry. I've had this discussion many many times before with people simply because It interests me.I'm not sure why you felt like I jumped on you, perhaps I was too offensive in saying that you were acting naive? It's w/e.
I said defensive, not offensive.
QuoteI know you used to smoke weed, and the way you jumped on me when Slash has pretty obviously been playing around with dangerous substances the past few days kind of shows some defensiveness there.Regardless of what you might perceive. I'm not angry. I've had this discussion many many times before with people simply because It interests me.
I know you used to smoke weed, and the way you jumped on me when Slash has pretty obviously been playing around with dangerous substances the past few days kind of shows some defensiveness there.
I'll show an example:One time I was prescribed on antibiotics. I was irresponsible and stopped taking them when it felt like I didn't need them anymore instead of finishing the entire bottle like I was supposed to. Needless to say, the infection came back stronger and I had to start over on stronger antibiotics.Because I decided to be an idiot and go against the doctor's directions.
Quote from: Comet on January 22, 2015, 03:05:35 AMso the base of your argument is, "if you didnt want to get addicted, you shouldnt have taken drugs"?if you're messing around with stupid and dangerous shit....yes?
so the base of your argument is, "if you didnt want to get addicted, you shouldnt have taken drugs"?
Because of the self diagnosis. If you read how I responded to Velox then you'd know that I have sympathy for the weak willed.
Quote from: XxRocketsnipez420xX on January 22, 2015, 03:00:19 AMQuote from: Nexus on January 22, 2015, 02:39:14 AMQuote from: Comet on January 22, 2015, 02:36:44 AMno, thankfully.Wow, someone said no without being an asshole.actually, most of this thread did that.Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhut the fuck up.
Quote from: / on January 22, 2015, 02:22:22 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:19:04 AMQuote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:16:40 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:08:06 AMThere's a surprise.Anyways, no. Like Verby says, I'm not a moron.You don't have to be a moron to fall prey to addiction. Thinking that such is simply a matter of stupidity is naive.It's called not doing drugs, m8.Were it only that simple. It's not a black and white issue.You're the one trying to ruin your brain man, not me.
Quote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:19:04 AMQuote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:16:40 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:08:06 AMThere's a surprise.Anyways, no. Like Verby says, I'm not a moron.You don't have to be a moron to fall prey to addiction. Thinking that such is simply a matter of stupidity is naive.It's called not doing drugs, m8.Were it only that simple. It's not a black and white issue.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on January 22, 2015, 02:16:40 AMQuote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:08:06 AMThere's a surprise.Anyways, no. Like Verby says, I'm not a moron.You don't have to be a moron to fall prey to addiction. Thinking that such is simply a matter of stupidity is naive.It's called not doing drugs, m8.
Quote from: XxNuKeZxX on January 22, 2015, 02:08:06 AMThere's a surprise.Anyways, no. Like Verby says, I'm not a moron.You don't have to be a moron to fall prey to addiction. Thinking that such is simply a matter of stupidity is naive.
There's a surprise.Anyways, no. Like Verby says, I'm not a moron.
People on this forum are way to defensive for their stupid drugs.
failing to follow directions properly.
Shit like heroin? Not even once. Don't fucking do it if you don't want to ruin your life.
That's like telling psychopaths not to be impulsive, or trans people to just not get gender dysphoria. It's not a case of free will, here, the causes of people becoming addicted to drugs--and, yes, taking them in the first place--is reducible to neurocognitive activity in the brain, over which we have no control. What I mean is that, essentially, addiction to a certain substance is indicative of neurological imbalances.