Gun control works

 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
Just your daily reminder in these trying times.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

37,417 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Agreed, proper gun control is always important. Using two hands is better than one.


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

47,121 posts
Agreed, proper gun control is always important. Using two hands is better than one.
don't forget trigger discipline


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
Agreed, proper gun control is always important. Using two hands is better than one.
Yep. Always treat it as if it's loaded, keep your finger off the trigger, don't aim at anything you don't want to hit and know what's behind your target. Too many accidental firearm deaths / injuries each year so this kind of gun control is definitely worth knowing.

That, and the legislation and policy regulating and restricting the manufacturing, transfer, sale, acquisition, ownership and use of firearms.


rC | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: RC5908
IP: Logged

10,824 posts
ayy lmao
I'm always yanking on my trigger


Genghis Khan | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Karjala takaisin
IP: Logged

1,979 posts
 
I'm sure the 6 million jews agree.


FatherlyNick | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: FatherlyNick
PSN: FatherlyNick
Steam: FatherlyNick
ID: FatherlyNick
IP: Logged

8,295 posts
Hey.
I came here from b.net after a few Floods invited me. None of them post on either b.net nor here anymore, which is sad. I was still active on b.net until for some bizarre reason, b.net admins locked out people who have not played Destiny. Even if you wanted to post on the offtopic section. After that, I fully moved here and have not returned to b.net since.
Please come play Halo with me.
I'm sure the 6 million jews agree.
Millions of US citizens are armed yet Trump is still in the white house, alive.


 
Jono
| F-Zero
 
more |
XBL: HundredJono
PSN: HundredJono
Steam: hundredjono55
ID: Jono
IP: Logged

17,938 posts
Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
Why can't I own an M60


Ian | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: Gaara00444
PSN: TheFriskyIan
Steam: Gaara00444
ID: Gaara444
IP: Logged

8,465 posts
Garlemald did nothing wrong.
From my cold dead hands.


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
Why can't I own an M60
You can in plenty of states since they were produced before 1986. It's just a lengthy and expensive process. If you've got the money, a clean criminal record, a seller and don't mind hopping through a bunch of hoops and checks, you can have a go at it with your own M60 in a year or so.


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
From my cold dead hands.
U S A
S
A


Mordo | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Madman Mordo
IP: Logged

6,994 posts
emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
I can't describe how much I dislike guns and gun enthusiasts.

Ban the lot tbh.


Fedorekd | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: Fedorekd
PSN:
Steam: Fedorekd
ID: Fedorekd
IP: Logged

8,898 posts
I love you, son.
what we need is a good guy with a gun


 
Naru
| The Tide Caller
 
more |
XBL: Naru No Baka
PSN:
Steam: The Tide Caller
ID: GasaiYuno
IP: Logged

18,621 posts
The Rage....
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Did you know that CRIMINALS don't follow laws because they're CRIMINALS and that's why they're CRIMINALS so laws won't affect them anyways??

Facts and reason: 1
Barack HUSSEIN OSAMA: 0

Libtards owned again, Le epic Shapiro style.  8)


Genghis Khan | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Karjala takaisin
IP: Logged

1,979 posts
 
It would be making law abiding citizens more difficult to defend themselves from criminals.


FatherlyNick | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: FatherlyNick
PSN: FatherlyNick
Steam: FatherlyNick
ID: FatherlyNick
IP: Logged

8,295 posts
Hey.
I came here from b.net after a few Floods invited me. None of them post on either b.net nor here anymore, which is sad. I was still active on b.net until for some bizarre reason, b.net admins locked out people who have not played Destiny. Even if you wanted to post on the offtopic section. After that, I fully moved here and have not returned to b.net since.
Please come play Halo with me.
It would be making law abiding citizens more difficult to defend themselves from criminals.
Second amendment is not for self defense tho. Its intended use is to resist tyrannical governments.


Genghis Khan | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Karjala takaisin
IP: Logged

1,979 posts
 
It would be making law abiding citizens more difficult to defend themselves from criminals.
Second amendment is not for self defense tho. Its intended use is to resist tyrannical governments.
That's why you can't infringe gun rights, like banning assault rifles for instance.


FatherlyNick | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: FatherlyNick
PSN: FatherlyNick
Steam: FatherlyNick
ID: FatherlyNick
IP: Logged

8,295 posts
Hey.
I came here from b.net after a few Floods invited me. None of them post on either b.net nor here anymore, which is sad. I was still active on b.net until for some bizarre reason, b.net admins locked out people who have not played Destiny. Even if you wanted to post on the offtopic section. After that, I fully moved here and have not returned to b.net since.
Please come play Halo with me.
It would be making law abiding citizens more difficult to defend themselves from criminals.
Second amendment is not for self defense tho. Its intended use is to resist tyrannical governments.
That's why you can't infringe gun rights, like banning assault rifles for instance.
Ban ammunition then. Keep your guns.


rC | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: RC5908
IP: Logged

10,824 posts
ayy lmao
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Did you know that CRIMINALS don't follow laws because they're CRIMINALS and that's why they're CRIMINALS so laws won't affect them anyways??

Facts and reason: 1
Barack HUSSEIN OSAMA: 0

Libtards owned again, Le epic Shapiro style.  8)
can we not make fun of shapino? he's just a little guy, he can't defend himself.


MarKhan | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: MarKhan54
ID: MarKhan
IP: Logged

2,551 posts
Apathy is death
I found this in a japanese light novel I was reading long time ago


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
It would be making law abiding citizens more difficult to defend themselves from criminals.
Second amendment is not for self defense tho. Its intended use is to resist tyrannical governments.
That's why you can't infringe gun rights, like banning assault rifles for instance.
It would also make it more difficult from non-law abiding citizens to get guns which are by far the best tool to commit crimes with. And the AWB has been challenged and upheld as constitutional numerous times, although it's unclear how that would go now after Heller.


rC | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: RC5908
IP: Logged

10,824 posts
ayy lmao
legit question for flee: how do i kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play?


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
can we not make fun of shapino? he's just a little guy, he can't defend himself.
Hey now, that's not nice to say. Ben is perfectly capable of defending himself when he's allowed to talk over first year college kids and bait them into misunderstandings because they've never had any media training and don't have the slighest clue on how to debate or respond to him immediately taking control of the argument and dragging it to a point favorable to him. This information assymmetry is what most of these alternative media personalities heavily rely on. It's the same with Crowder's stuff where he challenges completely random people to a debate on a certain topic. He prepares extensively beforehand and picks only sources / arguments that favor his position so that he can pull out some statistic or study and shut them down instantly even if it's heavily disputed because the opposition simply doesn't know any better.

-  Random person: Stricter gun control would be good
-  Interviewer: "According to research and official government numbers, there's up to 3 million cases of people defending themselves and saving lives with guns every year while only 40,000 people die by guns - suicides included, so you'd be crazy to think gun control is good since CLEARLY they're used more often to defend"
- Random person starts hesitating, doesn't know what to say, walks away

LEFTIST OWNED WITH FACTS AND LOGIC

In reality, the 3 million number is the highest estimate ever and dates back to a largely refuted phone survey by a notorious pro-gun and gun lobby funded researcher done 30 years ago that has been challenged by heaps of more recent research (ranging from the 60k to few hundred thousand range), some of which done by the Department of Justice itself putting the estimate at just 55,000 a year. Comparing it to gun deaths is a misleading point because not every case of a defensive gun use is a life saved (although that's the impression he wants to leave you with). Instead, when comparing it to actual criminal uses of firearms, there's around half a million cases of gun violence / gun crime each year according to DoJ statistics, which would put it 10 times higher than its estimate of defensive uses. And then there's also the dozens of high profile studies finding positive effects from a wide array of gun control measures.

But of course, the average person has no clue about any this so an entirely valid position ("stricter gun control would help") is immediately countered by an argument that only looks at one single aspect of the debate, presents a very one-sided perspective with questionable and easily countered sources they suggest are authoritative and essentially "facts". In an online setting, that person could simply take 2 minutes to read the Wiki article on Defensive Gun Use and realize how misleading the interviewer's point is, but in a real-time conversation they're just shut down.


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
legit question for flee: how do i kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play?
Shit, I don't know. Never had to deal or look into anything like that myself. I assume there might be some kind of wildlife control you can contact for support or advice. If not, trap them or shoot them.

To clarify, I'm not at all against private gun ownership. Gun control doesn't mean a gun ban. It's a term that refers to the entirety of legislation and policy regulating different aspects of the manufacturing, sale, ownership, use and transfer of firearms. I'm simply in favor of stringent regulations because I think the available evidence and research shows that this is the right approach and that certain measures could have significant positive impacts in the US.

I have absolutely nothing against the idea of someone like you going through the right checks and taking the right precautions so you can shoot feral hogs. I know they're a huge pest in some places and can be dangerous, especially to children, so I'd fully support you being able to get rid of them like that.


Genghis Khan | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Karjala takaisin
IP: Logged

1,979 posts
 
It would be making law abiding citizens more difficult to defend themselves from criminals.
Second amendment is not for self defense tho. Its intended use is to resist tyrannical governments.
That's why you can't infringe gun rights, like banning assault rifles for instance.
It would also make it more difficult from non-law abiding citizens to get guns which are by far the best tool to commit crimes with. And the AWB has been challenged and upheld as constitutional numerous times, although it's unclear how that would go now after Heller.
Not really. It isn't hard for people to get a gun from black market.


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
OwO what's this, a new assault weapons ban in Congress? Probably won't amount to anything though.


Ian | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: Gaara00444
PSN: TheFriskyIan
Steam: Gaara00444
ID: Gaara444
IP: Logged

8,465 posts
Garlemald did nothing wrong.
Who’s advocating for it? Feinstein has been DESPERATE to reinstate her ban for literal decades, even before there was a hysteria on shootings. News reports are saying even Democrats aren’t really supporting it, if Feinstein is in charge I can see why.

OwO what's this, a new assault weapons ban in Congress? Probably won't amount to anything though.


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
Who’s advocating for it? Feinstein has been DESPERATE to reinstate her ban for literal decades, even before there was a hysteria on shootings. News reports are saying even Democrats aren’t really supporting it, if Feinstein is in charge I can see why.

OwO what's this, a new assault weapons ban in Congress? Probably won't amount to anything though.
Feinstein's the bill's main sponsor, yeah.


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,835 posts
 
Looks like Donohue is publishing another study shortly that found more evidence that the previous AWB had a positive impact on mass shooting deaths and frequency. Comes at a good (or bad) time depending on how you look at it.