From capitalistic liberalism to an authoritarian englightened monarchy

Isara · January 09, 2015, 10:10:02 AM

Religious disputes, tolerance of lesser ideals and the corruption that brews quite easily in liberal or democratic nations has fed me up. What do you consider of the differences between the two ideologies?

More Than Mortal · January 09, 2015, 10:18:06 AM

Enlightened despotism is quite clearly the best structure and function for a government.

It's just a shame they're exceptionally difficult to manufacture.

Nascent Email · January 09, 2015, 01:07:25 PM

All hail the King! Death to the traitors in Parliament!

Isara · January 09, 2015, 01:48:32 PM

You can always keep a parliament or a democratic body with a certain amount of power.

Quote from: Trojanlord on January 09, 2015, 01:07:25 PM

All hail the King! Death to the traitors in Parliament!

Azumarill · January 09, 2015, 02:02:16 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:18:06 AM

Enlightened despotism is quite clearly the best structure and function for a government.

It's just a shame they're exceptionally difficult to manufacture.

wouldnt a technocracy accomplish the same thing with less room for error?

More Than Mortal · January 09, 2015, 02:06:21 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on January 09, 2015, 02:02:16 PM

wouldnt a technocracy accomplish the same thing with less room for error?

Only if it were a very minimalist/conservative technocracy.

You can't have experts running all or even most aspects of society and the economy, because it just doesn't work.

Azumarill · January 09, 2015, 02:11:05 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 02:06:21 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on January 09, 2015, 02:02:16 PM
wouldnt a technocracy accomplish the same thing with less room for error?
Only if it were a very minimalist/conservative technocracy.

You can't have experts running all or even most aspects of society and the economy, because it just doesn't work.

how wouldn't it work? if the smartest, most talented people in the world can't fix our shit, who can?

More Than Mortal · January 09, 2015, 02:19:07 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on January 09, 2015, 02:11:05 PM

how wouldn't it work? if the smartest, most talented people in the world can't fix our shit, who can?

Humans aren't a collective which can be easily managed.

The most important job for government is to provide a stable system, inside which people have the liberty to be self-reliant and flourish.

Azumarill · January 09, 2015, 02:20:41 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 02:19:07 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on January 09, 2015, 02:11:05 PM
how wouldn't it work? if the smartest, most talented people in the world can't fix our shit, who can?
Humans aren't a collective which can be easily managed.

The most important job for government is to provide a stable system, inside which people have the liberty to be self-reliant and flourish.

so less is more, provide the framework and the social security and the people will do the rest.

Nascent Email · January 09, 2015, 03:22:49 PM

Quote from: Isara on January 09, 2015, 01:48:32 PM

You can always keep a parliament or a democratic body with a certain amount of power.

Quote from: Trojanlord on January 09, 2015, 01:07:25 PM
All hail the King! Death to the traitors in Parliament!

Agreed but the Monarch should be the head of state and make the national decisions. Though I was making a joke about the usurpation of power by the protestant puritan parliament during the English civil war. Charles the 1'st did nothing wrong.

Lemy the Lizerd · January 09, 2015, 03:23:03 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:18:06 AM

Enlightened despotism

>enlightened
>despotism