EU thinks obesity is now a disability

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http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30529791

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Levels of obesity are rising across Europe

Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled.

The European Court of Justice was asked to consider the case of a male childminder in Denmark who says he was sacked for being too fat.

The court said that if obesity could hinder "full and effective participation" at work then it could count as a disability.

The ruling is binding across the EU.

Judges said that obesity in itself was not a disability - but if a person had a long-term impairment because of their obesity, then they would be protected by disability legislation.

The case centres around childminder Karsten Kaltoft who weighs about 160kg (25 stone).

He brought a discrimination case against his employers of 15 years, Billund local authority, after he was sacked four years ago.

The authority said a fall in the number of children meant Mr Kaltoft was no longer required.

But Mr Kaltoft said he was dismissed because he was overweight.

'No problems'
Earlier this year, he told the BBC that reports that he was so fat he was unable to bend down to tie children's shoelaces were untrue.

Describing his work with children, he said: "I can sit on the floor and play with them, I have no problems like that.

"I don't see myself as disabled. It's not OK just to fire a person because they're fat, if they're doing their job properly."

The Danish courts asked the European Court of Justice (ECJ) to clarify whether obesity was a disability.

The ECJ ruled that if the obesity of the worker "hinders the full and effective participation of that person in professional life on an equal basis with other workers", then obesity can fall within the concept of "disability".

Rulings from the European Court of Justice are binding for all EU member nations.

The courts in Denmark will now have to assess Mr Kaltoft's weight to see if his case can be classed as a disability.

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This is just going to enable people to continue their unhealthy weight issues. A disability is something a person can't control; being fat IS something you can control, it's called going to the gym


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So... a company can't fire you just for being fat and saying "oh, well, he um... couldn't do x becuase he was fat. Yeah." and it's a bad thing?


 
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Considering it's only considered a disability under "certain circumstances", I see no big deal.


 
 
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Chally, you know better by now.

Don't do it again.
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Okay - considering the two of you cannot play nice (Again!), looks like we need some time outs.
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Okay - considering the two of you cannot play nice (Again!), looks like we need some time outs.
Oh, so bans only come when I step in?

Nope, bans come when you step way over the line.

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It is a disability.


 
 
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If you actually eat to the point where your ankles snap under your own weight, I'd say that counts as a disability. Just being obese doesn't constitute a disability though, and as flee has pointed out this ruling isn't suddenly going to protect the land whales from harpooning obese people from ever being fired.



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But it is!  I can't help that I'm over 200 lbs!  I just can't exercise or eat right because...well I just CAN'T!


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If you actually eat to the point where your ankles snap under your own weight, I'd say that counts as a disability. Just being obese doesn't constitute a disability though, and as flee has pointed out this ruling isn't suddenly going to protect the land whales from harpooning obese people from ever being fired.
I would argue that the medical and physical effects of obesity would make it a disability. It does prevent some normal function.


 
 
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<.<
If you actually eat to the point where your ankles snap under your own weight, I'd say that counts as a disability. Just being obese doesn't constitute a disability though, and as flee has pointed out this ruling isn't suddenly going to protect the land whales from harpooning obese people from ever being fired.
I would argue that the medical and physical effects of obesity would make it a disability. It does prevent some normal function.

Hmm, I guess I wouldn't rule it out but the trouble with classing it all as a disability is that it could validate it as an excuse for those who just plain and simply eat too much junk food and don't exercise at all <.<

IIRC there is a new additive style chemical being trialled that works on the neurotransmitters that control satiation. So basically adding some of this crap to your regular food will make you feel less hungry/less inclined to eat junk food constantly, if it makes it past the 'does it kill anyone' stage, it could be something of a game changer for people who just eat obscene amounts of food. And for regular folks too mind you, helping portion sizes get under control and all that <.<


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
If you actually eat to the point where your ankles snap under your own weight, I'd say that counts as a disability. Just being obese doesn't constitute a disability though, and as flee has pointed out this ruling isn't suddenly going to protect the land whales from harpooning obese people from ever being fired.
Isn't is arguable that conditiones suffred from being obese count as a disability while obeisity itself does not, in the same way that gender dysphoria counts as a mental disorder while transgenderism itself  doesn't?
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But it is a disability.


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Isn't a disability something that "DIS"ables you from doing something?
An obese person can't function as well as a person with a normal weight.

How is it stupid that it's considered a disability?


 
 
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<.<
If you actually eat to the point where your ankles snap under your own weight, I'd say that counts as a disability. Just being obese doesn't constitute a disability though, and as flee has pointed out this ruling isn't suddenly going to protect the land whales from harpooning obese people from ever being fired.
Isn't is arguable that conditiones suffred from being obese count as a disability while obeisity itself does not, in the same way that gender dysphoria counts as a mental disorder while transgenderism itself  doesn't?
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Ah yes, that does make more sense <.<


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Isn't a disability something that "DIS"ables you from doing something?
An obese person can't function as well as a person with a normal weight.

How is it stupid that it's considered a disability?
Actual disabilities are a result of circumstances during or after birth, outwith a persons control. Shovelling toxic junk down your gob which results in immobility and cardiac arrests is a choice.
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Isn't a disability something that "DIS"ables you from doing something?
An obese person can't function as well as a person with a normal weight.

How is it stupid that it's considered a disability?
Actual disabilities are a result of circumstances during or after birth, outwith a persons control. Shovelling toxic junk down your gob which results in immobility and cardiac arrests is a choice.
Sure, there's a big damn difference between brain damage in the womb and eating like a pig.

But it's still being disabled, just not in the way that term is usually used.

I'm not saying fat people should get benefits or something, if all they do is eat shit, fuck 'em.
Obesity still disables people from physically functioning like a normal human.