Do you Support the Students Protesting in Colorado?

 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,381 posts
 
For reference to those who do not know, there is currently an ongoing protests by students in a Denver suburb of Colorado. Basically, a bunch of AP US History students have stopped going to class to protest a new proposal for curriculum in the class:

Quote
The protests are aimed at new JeffCo School Board member Julie Williams’ proposal, which states, in part: “Materials should promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights. Materials should not encourage or condone civil disorder, social strife or disregard of the law. Instructional materials should present positive aspects of the United States and its heritage.”

Essentially: Teach kids that America is great, write out stuff that would say otherwise.

So, thoughts? Support the kids? Think it's an overreaction? To read more about it, click Here
Last Edit: September 27, 2014, 10:48:23 AM by IcyWind


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Of course not.


 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,381 posts
 
Of course not.

Oh, this will be good.

Why not?


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

37,627 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I can't  stand blatantly and objectively biased history, so I totally support them.


RustingFloor | Heroic Posting Rampage
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Rustingfloor
IP: Logged

1,328 posts
"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Fuck yes I support them.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Of course not.

Oh, this will be good.

Why not?

Why? For one, I bet its 5% students who actually care and 95% who just want to get out of class.

Also, students don't dictate what is taught. If that were true, I'd love to have a class dedicated to the history of all 4 major sports and get rid of math. But its not up to us as students.


RustingFloor | Heroic Posting Rampage
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Rustingfloor
IP: Logged

1,328 posts
"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Of course not.

Oh, this will be good.

Why not?

Why? For one, I bet its 5% students who actually care and 95% who just want to get out of class.

Also, students don't dictate what is taught. If that were true, I'd love to have a class dedicated to the history of all 4 major sports and get rid of math. But its not up to us as students.
Oh my fucking god.

Kill yourself.

Just kill yourself.

Don't even wait to think about it, just fucking do it.

K

I

L

L


Y

O

U

R

S

E

L

F


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Do you think its funny to tell someone to kill themselves online?

You really need to take a look in the mirror and reevaluate your life. Even if you are joking, its still not something you say.


BrenMan 94 | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: BrenMan 94
PSN:
Steam: BrenMan 94
ID: BrenMan 94
IP: Logged

1,886 posts
 
Sure.


RustingFloor | Heroic Posting Rampage
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Rustingfloor
IP: Logged

1,328 posts
"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Of course not.

Oh, this will be good.

Why not?

Why? For one, I bet its 5% students who actually care and 95% who just want to get out of class.

Also, students don't dictate what is taught. If that were true, I'd love to have a class dedicated to the history of all 4 major sports and get rid of math. But its not up to us as students.
Anyway time for a serious response.

Your first point is irrelevant, the number of people concerned does not determine the validity of a conplaint.

Your second point might make sense, if not for the fact that the proposal is essentially promoting blind nationalism AND revisionist history. I know you absolutely love the former, but even you should be smart enough to see the problem with the latter. If students don't have the right to decide what they are taught, teachers don't have the right to change history to support a false narrative.


 
gats
| alo
 
more |
XBL: goooots
PSN:
Steam: goootsby
ID: Gatsby
IP: Logged

19,290 posts
You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
Wait so the schools want to teach American nationalism and disregard the areas where America did bad shit. And the students are protesting against it??


RustingFloor | Heroic Posting Rampage
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Rustingfloor
IP: Logged

1,328 posts
"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Wait so the schools want to teach American nationalism and disregard the areas where America did bad shit. And the students are protesting against it??
Yes.


 
cxfhvxgkcf-56:7
| Marty Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: SoporificSlash
IP: Logged

15,656 posts
 
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


 
gats
| alo
 
more |
XBL: goooots
PSN:
Steam: goootsby
ID: Gatsby
IP: Logged

19,290 posts
You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
Wait so the schools want to teach American nationalism and disregard the areas where America did bad shit. And the students are protesting against it??
Yes.
Then I fully support them. Here in the UK we too are only taught in History about the wonderful things the British did. Our curriculum fails to mention all the bad. I don't really like nationalism, it's an element of fascism.
Last Edit: September 27, 2014, 11:44:23 AM by Gatsby


 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,381 posts
 
Why? For one, I bet its 5% students who actually care and 95% who just want to get out of class.

Also, students don't dictate what is taught. If that were true, I'd love to have a class dedicated to the history of all 4 major sports and get rid of math. But its not up to us as students.

Considering the protests are contained to a few AP classes, you're right. A small amount actually care, but that doesn't make their cause any less important.

So, you're fine with the cutting out of who sections of US history, eh? Some patriot you are.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Why? For one, I bet its 5% students who actually care and 95% who just want to get out of class.

Also, students don't dictate what is taught. If that were true, I'd love to have a class dedicated to the history of all 4 major sports and get rid of math. But its not up to us as students.

Considering the protests are contained to a few AP classes, you're right. A small amount actually care, but that doesn't make their cause any less important.

So, you're fine with the cutting out of who sections of US history, eh? Some patriot you are.

Yep absolutely fine with it.

Have you learned all the bad shit about America in school over your schooling? I doubt it. Things are cut all the time.

Its all good though. When those kids are in summer school this year, I'll be funny.


 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,381 posts
 
Have you learned all the bad shit about America in school over your schooling? I doubt it. Things are cut all the time.

Actually, yes. Yes I have.


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Have you learned all the bad shit about America in school over your schooling? I doubt it. Things are cut all the time.

Actually, yes. Yes I have.

Sure you have. Theres zero chance that you've covered every history book, front to back in every class. Theres just not enough time.


RustingFloor | Heroic Posting Rampage
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Rustingfloor
IP: Logged

1,328 posts
"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Why? For one, I bet its 5% students who actually care and 95% who just want to get out of class.

Also, students don't dictate what is taught. If that were true, I'd love to have a class dedicated to the history of all 4 major sports and get rid of math. But its not up to us as students.

Considering the protests are contained to a few AP classes, you're right. A small amount actually care, but that doesn't make their cause any less important.

So, you're fine with the cutting out of who sections of US history, eh? Some patriot you are.

Yep absolutely fine with it.

Have you learned all the bad shit about America in school over your schooling? I doubt it. Things are cut all the time.

Its all good though. When those kids are in summer school this year, I'll be funny.
Hurrrr you don't know everything so you might as well know nothing


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
Hurrrr you don't know everything so you might as well know nothing

Yep. Its more like, Hurrrr Don't act like you know everything.


 
 
Mr. Psychologist
| Imperial Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Mr Psychologist
IP: Logged

17,215 posts
<.<
Wait so the schools want to teach American nationalism and disregard the areas where America did bad shit. And the students are protesting against it??
Yes.
Then I fully support them. Here in the UK we too are only taught in History about the wonderful things the British did. Our curriculum fails to mention all the bad. I don't really like nationalism, it helps uniting the people of one country together but not the world.
I wouldn't say that it whitewashes history for the empire, it was more just omitted entirely from the curriculum I studied other than colouring in the countries we used to own in year 6...


 
challengerX
| custom title
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: challengerX
IP: Logged

41,942 posts
I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.


Nascent Email | Heroic Posting Riot
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Trojanlord
IP: Logged

819 posts
 
Wait so the schools want to teach American nationalism and disregard the areas where America did bad shit. And the students are protesting against it??
Yes.
Then I fully support them. Here in the UK we too are only taught in History about the wonderful things the British did. Our curriculum fails to mention all the bad. I don't really like nationalism, it helps uniting the people of one country together but not the world.
I wouldn't say that it whitewashes history for the empire, it was more just omitted entirely from the curriculum I studied other than colouring in the countries we used to own in year 6...

We in the north never even get taught anything about the British empire. We're taught the jews and nothing but the jews in WWII, the battle of Hastings, that franz ferdinand got killed by a bunch of nationalists, the state of medicine from the Roman era to 1941, the history of the Durham steelworks and all about US westward expansion. Out of that The battle of Hastings and the history of the Durham steel works is the only legitimate British history I have experienced since beginning school to completing GCSE history.


 
More Than Mortal
| d-d-d-DANK ✡ 🔥🔥🔥 🌈
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam: MetaCognition
ID: Meta Cognition
IP: Logged

15,060 posts
This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Yes.

I'd support the students if they were demonstrating for the proposals to be implemented. They're certainly allowed to have a say in their education.


 
Isara
| Forum Architect
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Isara
IP: Logged

2,199 posts
 
During the height of student protests in Greece I was going in High School. The rate of protests was the highest in my senior year, and as someone who was usually... Consulted by the ones involved in the school government, there was a huge interest to start a protest, but without any substantial need to do so.

Therefore, I do support student protests, but from students who actually know, and understand the issue. Those who appear because they are following without knowing, or those who merely want to skip class deserve no attention whatsoever in the matter.


 
 
Mr. Psychologist
| Imperial Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Mr Psychologist
IP: Logged

17,215 posts
<.<
Wait so the schools want to teach American nationalism and disregard the areas where America did bad shit. And the students are protesting against it??
Yes.
Then I fully support them. Here in the UK we too are only taught in History about the wonderful things the British did. Our curriculum fails to mention all the bad. I don't really like nationalism, it helps uniting the people of one country together but not the world.
I wouldn't say that it whitewashes history for the empire, it was more just omitted entirely from the curriculum I studied other than colouring in the countries we used to own in year 6...

We in the north never even get taught anything about the British empire. We're taught the jews and nothing but the jews in WWII, the battle of Hastings, that franz ferdinand got killed by a bunch of nationalists, the state of medicine from the Roman era to 1941, the history of the Durham steelworks and all about US westward expansion. Out of that The battle of Hastings and the history of the Durham steel works is the only legitimate British history I have experienced since beginning school to completing GCSE history.

That's pretty much the same as what I did in history, although substitute the American west and Durham steel for the Suffragettes, Liberal Reforms and Treaty of Versailles. And a focus on Hitler's rise to power too.

The only bits to do with the empire I actually remember doing were the colouring in the countries thing in middle school and briefly talking about it in terms of WW1.

Oh and the Tudors. The fucking Tudors I must have done about 7 times throughout school. God that was boring.


 
𝑺𝒆𝒄𝒐𝒏𝒅𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒔
| 𝑪𝒂𝒓𝒎𝒆𝒏
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: ModernLocust
Steam:
ID: SecondClass
IP: Logged

30,018 posts
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen


Kinder Graham | Respected Invincible!
 
more |
XBL: TFL Blazing
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IchEsseKinder
IP: Logged

7,291 posts
TUNNEL SNAKES RULE
(ง ͡͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡ °)ง
>respect for individual rights

Only thing that shouldn't be protested. Rest is all indoctrination by the government and putting an extreme bias on history which is not okay


 
 
Flee
| Marty Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

15,686 posts
 
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden and require a Sep7agon® SecondClass Premium Membership to view.
Last Edit: September 27, 2014, 02:21:16 PM by Flee


PSU | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: PSU
IP: Logged

6,089 posts
 
USA USA USA USA

Don't like it? GTFO