More than anything else, I'm upset that we've sworn in a partisan judge. Which should just be not be a thing, especially when it's a lifelong position.

No. Something like that would've been extremely hard to prove the day after it happened, good fucking luck finding something 36 years later. With that said, he's innocent until proven guilty and all the people saying that doesn't matter because it's not an actual trial can piss off, it's the principle/idea/spirit of the thing.

Do you think there’s enough evidence to be suspicious or even condemn him?

I mean he clearly did it,

I like how you can say that without proof.

but the main reason he should've been denied for the position was the way he handled the accusations. The entitled anger of a rich white boy who's never known real consequences his entire life. And then 3 days later he tries to apologise for his emotional behaviour. People who have known abusive people in their own lives can see this behaviour coming from miles away; act abusive, then apologise and victimise yourself to make the actual victim feel sorry for you. He's unfit for the position regardless of the allegations' truth.

You're right, he shouldn't have gotten angry. I mean it's not like the main opposition against him getting the position is a bogus story from 36 years ago saying he's sexually harassed someone. Yeah, I can't possibly see why he would be mad over that.

And abusive behavior? Come on, this is ridiculous and you know it. He was angry, and rightfully so, and you think that's a sign of him being abusive? Even if he didn't get the job but his name was cleared, the damage has already been done, he can't go anywhere in public without people going "Oh he's that rapist" not just him but his family has to deal with the shit as well. We'd all be pretty fucking angry if we were in his position and anyone saying they wouldn't be is bullshitting.

Peterson had an interesting take on this (that he's now getting flak for from his fellow conservatives) that if Kavanaugh was truly right for the job, upon confirmation, he should have stepped down knowing how polarising he was. This would've have cleared his reputation in most people's eyes and have worked to lessen the divide between parties right now. But no, he knows the only reason he's there is to push the "Trump can pardon himself" initiative knowing that there will most likely be a democratic senate come December that will push to impeach.

I like Peterson but that is complete nonsense. If he's completely right for the job why shouldn't he keep his position? All him stepping down would do is appease the people who have worked nonstop for the last month to drag his name through the mud. Anyone Trump nominates is going to go through just as much of a shit show and the seat would be left vacant until who the fuck knows. That's not fair to the people qualified who might be nominated, it's not fair to the Senate (both parties) having to repeat the whole process, and it's not fair to the American people having to watch it.

As for the second half, I know that the opposition party tends to win in the mid-terms but this whole fiasco has spurred multiple news articles on a GOP surge in voter-turnout.

More than anything else, I'm upset that we've sworn in a partisan judge. Which should just be not be a thing, especially when it's a lifelong position.

This. As soon as I heard him wave away all of the accusations as a conspiracy generated as "revenge for the Clintons" I stopped thinking he should have the seat. Judges will have conservative or liberal inclinations (whether slight or riding the margins) but they shouldn't be a part of the partisan circus. Now the Supreme Court, the last branch of the government that the people had faith in, has fallen to the swamp in D.C. just like the other two.

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More than anything else, I'm upset that we've sworn in a partisan judge. Which should just be not be a thing, especially when it's a lifelong position.

This. As soon as I heard him wave away all of the accusations as a conspiracy generated as "revenge for the Clintons" I stopped thinking he should have the seat. Judges will have conservative or liberal inclinations (whether slight or riding the margins) but they shouldn't be a part of the partisan circus. Now the Supreme Court, the last branch of the government that the people had faith in, has fallen to the swamp in D.C. just like the other two.

Honestly is anyone even able to get anywhere in politics/law without being partisan in the current political landscape? Seems like everyone is becoming heavily tribal and moderates are becoming more and more ostracized for committing to remain impartial.

There have been attempts even during the confirmation hearings, like Flake's reach across the isle resulting in the limited-scope FBI investigation. What's sad is that, despite how sad it is that "maybe we should at least do a cursory investigation of the allegations first" is considered bipartisan, what's worse is that the Republican pundit and every-man thinks he's a spineless traitor for it.

Ultimately, the broader application of bipartisanship in the U.S. died with McCain (regardless of his character). You'll see it at the state and local level on non-issues, or beyond on issues that the greater citizenship cares about (like RFRA).

Why don’t you answer what I’m asking you instead of pretending to be Lindsey Graham.

Do I think he's guilty of several crimes? Probably. But I'll let the investigations decide the absolute answer. I don't know how many times I have to say it for you to be satisfied but I'll humor you: I don't like Trump.

This is about getting trump out of office. He’s a criminal. He’s a traitor. This is way beyond partisanship, it’s about our democracy.

There's other ways of fighting back against Trump, even on the subject of Kavanaugh; but this was by far the worst possible way of doing so.

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Lol are some of these posts supposed to be a parody of second class?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>This isn’t something I’ve followed really at all, and now trying to catch up

I’m sorry that you’re an uninformed retard, but that really isn’t my fault.

Sorry I don’t have much desire to follow modern politics when overly emotional retards like yourself is all I ever see anymore.

Remind me which of us is mad, again?

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Quote from: maverick on October 07, 2018, 11:34:33 PM

Lol are some of these posts supposed to be a parody of second class?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>This isn’t something I’ve followed really at all, and now trying to catch up

I’m sorry that you’re an uninformed retard, but that really isn’t my fault.

Sorry I don’t have much desire to follow modern politics when overly emotional retards like yourself is all I ever see anymore.

Remind me which of us is mad, again?

So you have no idea what’s going on with politics, yet you’re mocking me because I know exactly how bad things are and I find apathetic people like you as detestable as those who support trump.

Sit back and think of how fundamentally stupid you are, then go fuck yourself in the ass with the biggest knife in your kitchen.

Nice one, Deci.

Clearly, I’m just so apathetic and don’t care about anything, which is why I made this thread you fucking retard. You don’t know shit about anything. You’re posts in this thread are conspiratorial garbage. Honestly from looking things up after making this thread, I can confidently say I’m more informed than you are.

Quote from: maverick on October 08, 2018, 12:47:55 AM

Nice one, Deci.

Clearly, I’m just so apathetic and don’t care about anything, which is why I made this thread you fucking retard.

You made the thread with almost zero information.

You assumed that. I was looking things up before I made this thread, and figured this board would have more compelling insight than I’d been hearing. Clearly I was wrong.

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posts in this thread are conspiratorial garbage.

Why else do you think trump wants him and only him on the Supreme Court? This is all about him doing everything he can to stay in power and not have to face justice for his crimes.

Even if this theory is true, one Supreme Court Justice isn’t going to appoint Trump to dictator.

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Honestly from looking things up after making this thread, I can confidently say I’m more informed than you are.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

No evidence to the contrary.

This thread is a perfect microcosm of muttmerica lol.

Kavanaugh was only chosen because he said the President could pardon himself in the event he gets impeached

I could see this being true, but generally I won't blindly follow every narrative pushed by the masses without there being convincing evidence.