Don't masturbate. Why are you madturbating if you hate it and it's unnecessary?
That was not 'proof' by any stretch of the imagination.
Quote from: CÆSAR GAIVS AVTISMVS on January 19, 2016, 03:15:53 PMWhy would something as trivial as to whether someone wants to drink or not be an issue to him? That's what I don't understand.Why would people who put harmful chemicals into their bodies for "fun" be an issue to me?Why would people who voluntarily reduce themselves to an incoherent mess be an issue to me?Why would people who fuck around with the most important organ in their body be an issue to me?Why would people who can't function in social situations unless they take this substance be an issue for me?Why would people who use this dangerous substance to cope with their depression be an issue for me?Why would getting addicted to said substance be an issue for me?Why would acute liver failure be an issue for me?Why would people risking prison for the underage possession/consumption of said substance be an issue for me?Why would the potential domestic abuse or otherwise violent behavior caused by imbibing said substance be an issue for me?Why would living in a universe where people think it's a smart idea to relinquish their sobriety for cheap, temporary thrills be an issue for me?i have no ideai should really quit being so uptight, amirite? XD
Why would something as trivial as to whether someone wants to drink or not be an issue to him? That's what I don't understand.
Kick this kid from Serious.
Are you going to answer those questions? because begging the question isn't an argument let a lone a proof.
Quote from: DAS THE HALLS on January 19, 2016, 04:22:16 PMQuote from: † on January 19, 2016, 03:21:12 PMTo which one might counter- Do you really need a high capacity thirty-shot assault bottle?SHALLNOTBEINFRINGEDno personal attacks in serious, but shitposting like this is OK
Quote from: † on January 19, 2016, 03:21:12 PMTo which one might counter- Do you really need a high capacity thirty-shot assault bottle?SHALLNOTBEINFRINGED
To which one might counter- Do you really need a high capacity thirty-shot assault bottle?
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:34:19 PMThat was not 'proof' by any stretch of the imagination.>here's a list of things that makes alcohol consumption dangerous, inadvisable, and an overall poor life choice>this is why drinking alcohol is bad--any questions?>"LOL THAT DIDN'T PROVE ANYTHING">"um, okay--would you care to explain how?">"LOLNEOP I'M JUST GAN POST DA MEMZ"
nice citations
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:44:05 PMnice citations>"now i'm gonna act like he needs a citation to prove that drinking alcohol gets you drunk xDDD"
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:44:59 PMQuote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:44:05 PMnice citations>"now i'm gonna act like he needs a citation to prove that drinking alcohol gets you drunk xDDD"https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:45:49 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:44:59 PMQuote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:44:05 PMnice citations>"now i'm gonna act like he needs a citation to prove that drinking alcohol gets you drunk xDDD"https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawmanSo I don't need any citations then? Okay, cool. Prove me wrong, then.
Quote from: Cadenza on January 19, 2016, 04:39:43 PMAre you going to answer those questions? because begging the question isn't an argument let a lone a proof.I'm not "begging the question." I asked a series of rhetorical questions that anybody with a sound mind could answer.It all can be summed up with "it's harmful."Harming yourself is axiomatically stupid.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:48:35 PMhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proofAlready proved it. Alcohol harms you. This is a fact.Prove me wrong.
That assumption is what makes it begging the question, you're asking people to make your argument against themselves for you.
Also, exercising is literally just repeatedly ripping your muscles apart, you have to deliberately damage yourself. Is exercise harmful?
Now for your other claims.https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
Alcohol harms you. This is a fact.Prove me wrong.
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:50:21 PMNow for your other claims.https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proofQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:49:51 PMAlcohol harms you. This is a fact.Prove me wrong.
You can't prove that harm is inherently wrong.
I'm not sure why you said this has nothing to do with objective morality
I've never understood how someone can develop such a taste for alcohol that any sort of hard liquor tastes good to them, even in mixed drinks. All alcoholic beverages are worse to me than a non-alcoholic counterpart with roughly the same ingredients. Getting drunk is a bad idea, but I wouldn't be so against doing it to myself if the process of getting drunk didn't involve drinking something that tastes like melted rubber and kerosene.
Quote from: Azumarill on January 19, 2016, 04:35:42 PMQuote from: challengerX on January 19, 2016, 04:33:21 PMQuote from: Azumarill on January 19, 2016, 04:32:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:29:14 PMQuoteI think a fine is enough punishment.Whatever. I'd rather rip their limbs off and feed them to dogs, but you know, whatever works.Dude, seriously, what the fuck is going on with you? Shit like this makes me feel like the people around you are in danger. If it were Loaf saying this it would be different, but you tend to mean what you say- get help, please, before you hurt someone.LOL Fuck off dude. Calm down.Tell me why I shouldn't be concerned about this, please.Because he always exaggerates like this.
Quote from: challengerX on January 19, 2016, 04:33:21 PMQuote from: Azumarill on January 19, 2016, 04:32:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:29:14 PMQuoteI think a fine is enough punishment.Whatever. I'd rather rip their limbs off and feed them to dogs, but you know, whatever works.Dude, seriously, what the fuck is going on with you? Shit like this makes me feel like the people around you are in danger. If it were Loaf saying this it would be different, but you tend to mean what you say- get help, please, before you hurt someone.LOL Fuck off dude. Calm down.Tell me why I shouldn't be concerned about this, please.
Quote from: Azumarill on January 19, 2016, 04:32:33 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:29:14 PMQuoteI think a fine is enough punishment.Whatever. I'd rather rip their limbs off and feed them to dogs, but you know, whatever works.Dude, seriously, what the fuck is going on with you? Shit like this makes me feel like the people around you are in danger. If it were Loaf saying this it would be different, but you tend to mean what you say- get help, please, before you hurt someone.LOL Fuck off dude. Calm down.
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 19, 2016, 04:29:14 PMQuoteI think a fine is enough punishment.Whatever. I'd rather rip their limbs off and feed them to dogs, but you know, whatever works.Dude, seriously, what the fuck is going on with you? Shit like this makes me feel like the people around you are in danger. If it were Loaf saying this it would be different, but you tend to mean what you say- get help, please, before you hurt someone.
QuoteI think a fine is enough punishment.Whatever. I'd rather rip their limbs off and feed them to dogs, but you know, whatever works.
I think a fine is enough punishment.
Quote from: Cadenza on January 19, 2016, 04:49:23 PMThat assumption is what makes it begging the question, you're asking people to make your argument against themselves for you.Literally what?My argument is clear and simple. ALCOHOL IS HARMFUL. HARM = BAD.Demonstrate the flaw in my reasoning.
QuoteAlso, exercising is literally just repeatedly ripping your muscles apart, you have to deliberately damage yourself. Is exercise harmful?Yes. Obviously.The difference is that you get something of minor value in return. You get NOTHING of value in return when you drink.
Quote from: Kupoop on January 19, 2016, 04:54:25 PMYou can't prove that harm is inherently wrong.I never said "wrong."I said STUPID.Even then, I could probably prove that it's wrong quite easily.It's axiomatic.The ultimate imperative for us as a race is to be productive in some form or another.It would be in our least interest, then, to prevent (or debilitate) ourselves from being productive in any way.Harm is a form of debilitation; when you get drunk, you're debilitating yourself.This is intrinsically wrong.It is stupid to debilitate yourself. You should want your body to be performing at full capacity at all times.Demonstrate to me why that is the wrong outlook.QuoteI'm not sure why you said this has nothing to do with objective moralityBecause it has absolutely nothing to do with morality.
ALCOHOL IS HARMFUL. HARM = BAD.
Quote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 04:49:11 PMI've never understood how someone can develop such a taste for alcohol that any sort of hard liquor tastes good to them, even in mixed drinks. All alcoholic beverages are worse to me than a non-alcoholic counterpart with roughly the same ingredients. Getting drunk is a bad idea, but I wouldn't be so against doing it to myself if the process of getting drunk didn't involve drinking something that tastes like melted rubber and kerosene.depends on the liquor. ive had some frozen mixed drinks that taste like HEAVEN, and ive had framboise that tastes better than most sodas ive had.
Quote from: Azumarill on January 19, 2016, 04:58:55 PMQuote from: Connor on January 19, 2016, 04:49:11 PMI've never understood how someone can develop such a taste for alcohol that any sort of hard liquor tastes good to them, even in mixed drinks. All alcoholic beverages are worse to me than a non-alcoholic counterpart with roughly the same ingredients. Getting drunk is a bad idea, but I wouldn't be so against doing it to myself if the process of getting drunk didn't involve drinking something that tastes like melted rubber and kerosene.depends on the liquor. ive had some frozen mixed drinks that taste like HEAVEN, and ive had framboise that tastes better than most sodas ive had.I can tell when there's a even a hint of alcohol in a drink you give me, and I never consider it a good thing. It's like, sure, you might be able to toss a bunch of flavoring over it, but you're doing it because alcohol doesn't taste good to begin with.
Because you've assumed that everybody who reads that question will answer as though they were verbatim
If you're drinking alone then that's probably true, but drinking with friends/in a social situation has social benefits
Batshit insane liquor laws
