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5971
« on: March 18, 2016, 10:11:11 PM »
Whose saliva
5972
« on: March 18, 2016, 07:09:44 AM »
Thad not even a sport
5973
« on: March 18, 2016, 07:06:34 AM »
You have deep emotional problems that can't be solved by fucking desperate fat chicks
5974
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:46:41 PM »
WOW, it's almost like schizophrenia and gender dysphoria are two completely different disorders Well maybe if you weren't so interested in making character attacks, you could see the principle argument We don't and shouldn't normalize mental disease It is a disservice to those with the disease in that schizophrenia is actually extremely detrimental in a variety of ways
and being transgender harms NO ONE
Exactly which is why I'm completely fine with transgender people not listening to me and doing whatever the fuck they want But for the millionth time, you cannot bring your subjective truth to society and force them to accept you It is immoral and hurts social health
5975
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:42:35 PM »
*cis "non-delusional" lives where they drown dysphoria in antidepressants (unless you have an actual alternative that isn't hypothetical and "guys we uh just need to research it and we'll totally find the cure because I'm convinced it exists despite no empirical grounds to that being readily achievable)
Like I said, the main problem for me is the fictionalized thinking that they're forcing on society The only reason I don't care much for what they actually do in their own time is because they're socially functional I've said why transgenderism is bullshit and why I want people to pursue a solution But at the end of it all, if you want to live in your delusion, that's fine Just don't force society to accept your subjective truth as objective And do you know how stupid you sound saying cis? The fact that a biologically and mentally normal person needs to be placed in a category just shows such much the "tolerance" movement has fucked up society
5976
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:35:36 PM »
But you don't. If you did, this thread wouldn't exist. You wouldn't care that transgenderism is being "normalized."
You would celebrate it. If someone has schizophrenia and thinks the TV is talking to them, you don't say "yes you're right the tv is talking to you" You would bring attention to the problem and try to help them Classifying something as a mental illness doesn't mean you hate them Yes.
You're an awful human being. Just awful.
I honestly find it disgusting that you rail on me for being a teen yet you think like this
5977
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:31:58 PM »
I wasn't talking about the specific procedure for SRS you idiot I was talking about the fact that this "it's a cure" boogeyman you're so fucking concerned about is a figment of your imagination. Therapists and endocrinologists actively discourage the idea that HRT will fix your problems. No the trans community don't see a problem at all They pretend there's nothing wrong with the mind I'm saying cure as in making them mentally normal again And in order to make something normal, you have to admit that it's abnormal And the transgender movement has made it so that we're not allowed to admit there's a problem anymore Estrogen and testosterone intrinsically effect your mood and state of mind you fucking idiot. Yes let's fuck up their head even more shall we
5978
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:26:18 PM »
]And you're perpetuating it. Good job, dumb high school kid who's going to grow out of this phase in two years.
Except I have said time and time again in this thread that I do not hate transgenders and what I disagree with that the fictionalized thinking that the community is imposing on society I've said over and over that you can be whatever you want What I think doesn't matter But do not force society to accept your view and then ostracize them if they don't See If you disagree with a victimized group, you instantly labeled as a hating closed minded bigot The only people who say that I hate transgender people are the people arguing against me in this thread I've never said it In fact, I've said the opposite I want transgender people to live happy lives But nooooo, I'm obviously some ignorant bigot because I disagree with you right? Also I want to address something you said earlier Yes, if you don't accept them, I think you should be shot in the head Funny how tolerance is a one way street right? I should tolerate your ideas but if I disagree with you, I should be shot So we should respect that.
Unless your ideas don't coincide with mine of course
5979
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:10:39 PM »
jesus christ lol
This is such a popular topic here it's almost sad (luckily it's only one person starting it each time though)
We have a mandatory 10 page thread once a month. As expected, nothing ever changes.
This was a thread to make people mad but then I actually got invested in the argument lol
5980
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:09:47 PM »
any evidence that it's not already being researched? i would be very much surprised if it weren't, but perhaps the science has suggested that it simply is not a viable route (i don't know if any conclusions like that have been made)
Well the fact that the trans community has successfully integrated it as a normal part of human biology is hampering the progress It's not even allowed to be viewed as a mental illness with a million SJWs ready to tear your throat out
5981
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:07:58 PM »
Yeah bro they're just imagining those violence and homicide statistics.
Did I ever say that discrimination against transgenders didn't exist? Of course it does But to say that is the sole reason for their suicide rate is naive
5982
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:06:34 PM »
You were the one acting like there's no basis for gender dysphoria, comparing it to identifying as a bowl of noodles Uh The basis for it is that there is something fucked up in your brain I thought I made that clear enough And treating them like social outcasts is preferable?
Who ever said that we should do that? I certainly didn't It's a vile and evil thought to turn away people who have mental disorders We should look into viable treatments and destroy this thought that it is something that is completely normal
5983
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:03:13 PM »
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.
Ok sure
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizing
What do you mean by normalizing?
I mean that people now see it as normal and not a fucking mental disease
5984
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:01:23 PM »
No it doesn't.
Wait are you saying that treatments aren't 100% effective just by taking a pill? By your logic it seems we should discontinue it because as long as this treatments exists, there isn't incentive to create something more effective and permanent.
Nice word twisting Only 3O% of people taking antidepressants go into full remission Most antidepressants increase serotonin levels So no You don't pop a pill and instantly become all sunshine and rainbows again But that doesn't mean we shouldn't use it if it helps people No one treats it like it's a cure. The professionals in the industry actively try to hammer it into your head that it is nowhere near a cure. You think this because you lack any experience or knowledge of the process. I don't get why you would assume I don't know anything about the process I know it You invert the penis It's disgusting But what you want to do is what you want to do My problem is that it's used to further the delusion instead of actually finding a cure to help them with their mental disease SRS =/= HRT. HRT is a much larger component as social transition is often the far more important aspect to healthy mental function. Most trans people don't get SRS. My only guess as to why you put such emphasis on SRS over HRT is because either you only have data to suit your argument in the case of SRS comparison, and/or you simply don't understand the difference between the two treatments. It's the current best, stopping doing it now would be just worsen the conditions these people face.
These only serve to physically and hormonally change your body They do nothing to help you mentally Failing to provide care because you accept nothing but perfection is asinine.
Can you provide evidence that the current process is "halting the search for a cure" in any other way than the absence of a situation in which we have no treatment creating more incentive for R&D?
I'm not saying that we need absolute perfection I'm saying that instead of getting us closer to a cure, your bullshit treatments are going the opposite direction
5985
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:29:39 PM »
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.
Ok sure Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizing
5986
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:28:40 PM »
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/[/url] I don't understand why people are surprised to find differences in the brain of people with mental illness How did you take what Verb said and end up jumping to this?
Because he thinks the cure to transgenderism is acceptance, implying that the problem plaguing transgenders is social violence And I'm saying that it's not The problem is in their heads
5987
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:25:02 PM »
First, you're confusing Gender with Sex. Sex is the biology you were born with, gender is a social construct on how you are supposed to behave as on sex or the other. The fact that gender and sex are two different things is proof that it's a mental illness For example, there is no reason why men aren't supposed to wear pink, or dresses. Or pink dresses. Biologically speaking, our bodies are indifferent to how we dress, so ling as it's appropriate for the weather. So why are something as simple as clothes sex specific. The answer is they are not. Types of clothes have been linked to gender by societal norms. I agree Outside of sex, there isn't much need for gender roles in today's society Now, there is a physical difference in many transgendered people. When autopsies are done, there is a difference in the physical structure of the brain. M to F transgendered are found to have the type of brain that is normally found in females. Believe it or not, men and women's brains are wired and structured differently.
Now, not all transgendered have this. It is believed that there are indeed different types of transgendered. There could be ones stemming from hormonal imbalances, mental trauma or biological differences. This is why there is a screening process in place to determine who can have the reassignment surgery and who can not. Hmm Their brains are different Could it be that it's because of the mental disease Nope It's probably because it was a female brain born into a male body But people are suffering from this. Why shame them by saying they are defective or weak when there is an option that doesn't effect you and makes them feel better? Do you have anything other than shaming them to say why it shouldn't be done?
Or do you just find the thought icky and don't want it in "your" society? If it's this, get over yourself. You aren't that important.
Where in any of what I said did you get that I'm shaming or hating them? Autism is a mental illness If I point out autism is a mental illness, it obviously means I hate autistic kids right? Oh because I spoke out against the victimized group, it obviously means I'm a hateful bigot No I want to help them I want them to get better and telling them "yes you are actually a female in a male body" is not helping them whatsoever Do you have ANY data showing regret after having the surgery? Not regret But the suicide rate pre and post op is the same so surgery obviously isn't he cure
5988
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:10:30 PM »
It isn't, but just for laughs imagine it is, and the best treatment was through hormone therapy or surgery; how is that any different than correcting chemical imbalances in depressed people with medication?
Because medication actually cures depression Or at least it helps the victim long enough for them to get out of it on their own Hormone therapy and surgery is NOT the cure The suicide rate pre and post op is exactly the same for transgender people So it is not the solution But it is stopping the look for a cure because now the surgery is glorified as the solution thus stopping the search for an actual cure
5989
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:05:59 PM »
wtf even is a transgender community?
It's such a bullshit term. If you're referring to a group of mentally disabled people just say 'It's highly damaging to the cross-dressers / drag-queens / ladyboys / fimbles etc etc'. Don't use community, it's not fucking reddit.
I'm referring to the people who are pushing for transgender normalization They are trying to teach our children that there is nothing wrong with the mind when it believes it is biologically the opposite sex We are no longer allowed to admit that there's a problem in the mind
5990
« on: March 17, 2016, 05:00:28 PM »
mental illness IS normal
it's just a fact of life that some people are mentally ill--and we can find cures and remedies for it all
it just so happens that the best cure for gender dysphoria is acceptance, and allowing people to live their lives however they wish
Um what It's literally the definition mental illness that it's NOT normal It exists, yes But the cure for it is not simply acceptance Acceptance does not fix the part of the brain that is causing the mental illness Why do people have to be content with their biologically assigned sex, anyway? Why is it so important for men to be men and women to be women? What is the problem with people changing their sex at will? Why does it matter?
There is no problem with self definition You can be a fucking bowl of noodles for all I care What you what to think is what you want to think But do not impose on society fictionalized thinking Because then the bowls of noodles will want society to accept them And then truth becomes subjective truth and that is not a society I want to live in Sex =/= Gender.
Sex is whether you are physically male with a penis, or physically female with a vagina.
Gender is all in your head. Exactly A body that contains chromosomes that are all XY with a brain that believes it is XX That's mental illness Even so, if you want to live in your delusions, it's your choice But do not change an entire society's view of mental illness to make it convenient for you It's not that they WANT to be the opposite gender. They FEEL that they ARE the opposite gender.
So we should respect that.
No one is saying we shouldn't respect them Or at least I'm not I'm just against this bullshit one way tolerance and forcing society to accept your truth even if it is wrong it's just a fact of life that some people are mentally ill--and we can find cures and remedies for it all
it just so happens that the best cure for gender dysphoria is acceptance, and allowing people to live their lives however they wish
Except it's not The annual suicide rate for transgenders is O.8% The ONLY comparable suicide rate in history is Jews living under Nazi rule If you're telling me that society today treats transgenders as bad as Nazis did to Jews, then go fuck yourself
5991
« on: March 17, 2016, 11:05:32 AM »
In the case of transgenderism, cutting off your dick and calling yourself a girl is now considered socially acceptable
and this is a bad thing how
That in of itself is not what's the problem You want to cut off your dick, that's your business But then forcing society to accept you and imposing your ideals onto society is socially damaging We're really going to teach and even glorify to kids that mental illness is normal?
5992
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:58:59 AM »
Are you saying you are sick and it's not your fault? Just go get the surgery
This is probably the biggest mistake out there The surgery is NOT a cure In fact, it stops people from continuing to look for a cure which is highly damaging to the transgender community
5993
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:57:30 AM »
You know, let's skip some time and just say that the human condition is a mental disorder.
There. Now everybody is special and uniquely retarded in their own way, and will forever have something to use against other people when they complain.
And we have normalized it.
What the fuck is the human condition
What the fuck is "normalize"
It's when something taboo is made to seem normal In the case of transgenderism, cutting off your dick and calling yourself a girl is now considered socially acceptable
5994
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:36:57 AM »
You know, let's skip some time and just say that the human condition is a mental disorder.
There. Now everybody is special and uniquely retarded in their own way, and will forever have something to use against other people when they complain.
And we have normalized it.
What the fuck is the human condition
5995
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:26:46 AM »
And we have normalized it
5996
« on: March 17, 2016, 10:14:51 AM »
This is why you don't do online dating faggot
5997
« on: March 16, 2016, 07:04:31 PM »
I was added to this English learning Skype chat full of Arabs
And literally like half of them added me and told me I was their boyfriend now
And they don't ask
They just tell you
"Show me dick"
"Cam me now"
And they just started calling me best friend and baby
It's freaky dude
5998
« on: March 16, 2016, 03:43:58 PM »
Leg day was a while ago so legs
5999
« on: March 16, 2016, 03:33:27 PM »
Two: English and Vietnamese
Three if high school Spanish class counts
6000
« on: March 16, 2016, 03:26:29 PM »
Goddamn your self esteem must be so low
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