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The Flood / Re: Why do people shit on virgins?
« on: March 19, 2016, 11:28:30 PM »It's quickly becoming irrelevant in today's society tho
what
Losing your virginity means pretty much nothing in today's society
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The Flood / Re: Why do people shit on virgins?« on: March 19, 2016, 11:28:30 PM »It's quickly becoming irrelevant in today's society tho Losing your virginity means pretty much nothing in today's society 5942
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 19, 2016, 08:34:04 PM »You say that "accepting and tolerating mental illness and its delusions" is harmful to society, citing that if we let severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia or let people amputate themselves or let people be dramatically underweight, that we'd be dismantling a healthy society. You misunderstood I say that forcing society to accept your truth as the truth is harmful If subjective truth replaces objective truth, our society will become a clusterfuck of ideals Anyone can say whatever they like and we would have to accept it as truth So my argument is not of a physical one but an ideological one Quote that person still leads a generally healthy life. They can hold jobs, they can have relationships, they can generally interact with people normally You must have misread because this is exactly what I meant by socially functional You're literally contradicting yourself. I have no doubt that people are working on it now But the trans community is impressing on society there is nothing wrong with transgenderism And there is nothing wrong with transgenderism socially but they are destroying any chance those people might have of fixing their problem by saying there is no problem If a cure popped up tomorrow how many people do you think will go get treatment? Very little because transgenders today are perfectly happy living in their bubble of delusion Quote We've had this conversation many times. Personally I think the concept of gender is irrelevant in today's society Pink dresses no longer need to be associated to females and fighting no longer needs to be associated to men That's not to say that transgender people still don't have mental disease but yes gender is a meaningless construct in today's society 5943
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 19, 2016, 08:33:45 PM »Reminder that GID is its own separate category in ICD-10; it's not a psychotic disorder and it's not BDD. Delusions are not a symptom of GID. Rephrase 5944
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 19, 2016, 08:33:27 PM »But you will fail Tell me how you arrived at that conclusion 5945
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 19, 2016, 08:32:51 PM »I don't think you know what the word disease means, friend Quote Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Sounds like transgenders would fall under here the chromosome argument is a tired and worn out argument that just doesn't work You only like to frame it like that because you don't like arguing against it Yeah the one thing that determines sex is irrelevant to a discussion about it Nice one 5946
The Flood / Re: "I don't give a fuck" what?« on: March 19, 2016, 06:48:31 PM »
Desty once again pushing the limit of colloquial understanding
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The Flood / Re: I'm becoming a god at playing the bass.« on: March 19, 2016, 06:27:56 PM »
I play trombone
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The Flood / Re: Deathmatch: people who love chocolate milk vs people who hate chocolate milk« on: March 19, 2016, 06:14:36 PM »
I've always preferred strawberry milk myself
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The Flood / Re: Why do people shit on virgins?« on: March 19, 2016, 05:48:43 PM »
Because it's big part one's masculinity
It's a rite of passage for boys turning into men It's quickly becoming irrelevant in today's society tho 5951
The Flood / Re: Someone needs to make this happen« on: March 19, 2016, 12:00:17 PM »
I don't get it
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The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 19, 2016, 01:01:52 AM »I never said it was the cure. it just so happens that the best cure for gender dysphoria is acceptance, and allowing people to live their lives however they wish I suppose it's too much to ask you to be accountable for what you say Quote Acceptance is just a thing that we HAVE to do in order for treatment to work. I agree Quote If everyone's a cunt bigot like you, that's not going to help anything or anybody. How am I a cunt bigot? Quote Prove it. Ok there is no cure for cancer right now You don't say there is no cure for cancer and stop all research Mental illness stems from problems in the brain In many cases, that can be treated with medication and therapy What do you base your claim that there is no cure on? Quote They're not delusional. A man whose every cell, except for ironically his sperm cells, contain all male chromosomes that thinks he is a woman is delusion de·lu·sion dəˈlo͞oZHən/ noun an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder. Here's the definition of delusion in case you're experiencing it right now Quote I fail to see the problem. The problem is that you are a fascist little prick who thinks you are tolerant when you are just blind to your own bigotry and your excuse for it is "I support the trans community so I'm a good person" 5953
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 19, 2016, 12:06:53 AM »Uh, no. Not even close. First off acceptance is never the cure to any mental illness Yes we should accept them because it is a despicable thought to turn away anyone with a mental disability But acceptance alone does not cure mental illness It is a fallacy that you admit it is a mental illness yet you think the best cure is to leave them alone to fester in it So the logic you use to arrive at the idiotic conclusion that finding the cure to cancer is socially damaging is flawed Because we haven't found the cure yet Quote Because as other people have stated repeatedly, there is no other solution. I don't see why you keep arriving at the conclusion that there is no other solution Of course there is a solution Gender dysphoria comes from the brain Maybe from hormone offsets or neural problems Once we find the cause, we can find how to return that to normal Quote And for what? Making a guy believe he's a guy? Well because any time someone is delusional, we should help them And the suicide rate among transgenders are some of the highest in history Even slaves in the 18OOs didn't have this high of a suicide rate But Like I said We live in a society where you don't have to care for my opinion Just do not impose on society the need to change facts from objective to subjective Quote Bigots like you are detrimental to society; transfolk are not. So me wanting society to maintain a level of objectivity is immoral But using coercion and bullying to force people to accept your objectively wrong views is not? You are clearly more intolerant than I am Just because your cause is "socially progressive", it does not shield you from being a bigot If you take away the words transgender and gender dysphoria, you are just pushing your own agenda, ostracizing everyone who disagrees with you 5954
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:37:38 PM »Oh for fuck's sake. And you wonder why people get so fucking pissed. You are saying mental illness is acceptable by silencing those who disagree with you I don't understand how the best cure for gender dysphoria is acceptance, and allowing people to live their lives however they wish Quote Me being a good person who is considerate of other people's feelings, desires, and personal comforts. You are no one to say that they shouldn't Just as I am no one to say they shouldn't So if you don't want to listen to me then fine But do not teach something completely factually untrue just because it's convenient for your mental illness Quote If you don't accept them, you're not better than a racist or a sexist, and you should be killed. Please tell me objectively how this is different from me wanting all transgenders to be killed 5955
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:23:36 PM »Yet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with themBecause you deserve it, for being an idiot. Who gets to decide who deserves what Why does your position hold more merit than mine? 5956
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:21:10 PM »Right because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the lineThere is no "social harm," whatever the fuck that even is. Yes it really is You are teaching kids that mental illness is acceptable and there is nothing wrong with it You are flaunting your subjective truth as objective If society is going to value how someone feels over how something actually is, it'll be a mess What is your basis for accepting transgenders? Everybody has their own self definition and we should respect that right? Well what happens when people say that they identify as animals and inanimate objects? Or when they demand to live in the White House because "they feel it deep in their heart" Take your logic to any logical extreme and it falls apart immediately 5957
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:11:59 PM »Not only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are notNo idea what the fuck you're even saying now. What do you want for transgender people? You want people to stop attacking them and labeling them as abnormal right? Yet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with them 5958
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:09:18 PM »If you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attackedNo, you won't. Yeah you really will Right because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the line 5959
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:07:20 PM »aight i've got a couple transgender people here that i know who i believe will put your fears to rest and acknowledge that gender dypshoria is a mental illness (even if transgenderism isn't). maybe we can see about getting their input. any other trans individuals want to comment? would be neat So? Just because a few people will admit it doesn't mean the whole community shares their view 5960
The Flood / Re: Bigotry, a buzzword PSA« on: March 18, 2016, 11:04:27 PM »
Whoa look
Gaara put his post under the quote What is happening??! 5961
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 11:01:38 PM »No, it isn't. The definition of closed-minded is unable to consider different ideas or opinions. Not only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are not Which is exactly what you keep saying people shouldn't do to transgenders Quote "Maybe if I slap 'in the highest order' in this post, it'll make me sound more intelligent and right" He attacked my word choice! My point is rendered moot! 5962
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:58:19 PM »That's just socially . . . stupid, in my opinion. You wouldn't go up to a schizophrenic person, a bipolar person, or a depressed person and say "you have a mental disease!" and point at them or something. Why would you call a trans person out? Try telling a fat person that they're fat in public--especially on a college campus. See what happens. You're right that was a bad example Let me rephrase If you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attacked It doesn't matter how logical or factual your arguments are Speaking out against the victimized group will result in being labeled as a hateful bigot Even if you have no hateful intentions at all 5963
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:50:12 PM »Good comebackI'm a closed-minded bigot because I have an open mind and I'm overtly un-bigoted towards people with gender dysphoria. How do you have a open mind? You support one cause but lash out against anyone who opposes that cause That's the definition of closed mindedness It doesn't matter that the cause is "socially progressive" It's still closed mindedness in the highest order 5964
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:46:23 PM »Except they don'tIf you're getting skinned alive it's because you're saying something else retarded. No shit, most people aren't transgender. It's not normal to be gender dysphoric or to have to undergo transgenderism (transgenderism is normal for gender dysphoric people but you get the point). No one is saying they shouldn't But try telling a trans person that they have a mental disease Especially with a crowd around See what happens then 5965
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:43:58 PM »It's pretty scary to be honestPut that mirror down. Good comeback 5966
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:42:19 PM »Does anyone have any evidence of there being a suppression of research into dysphoria-nullifying drugs? i.e. something that would "make the feelings go away" in contrast with transgenderism. i still don't understand why people say "we should be researching this and clearly something would be found" if they're not experts in the research area and if they haven't already checked to see what has been done It doesn't take a genius to figure out that research will no longer continue if society no longer considers it a mental illness Once you stop classifying something as a mental disease, you stop trying to cure it It's first grade logic 5967
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:39:44 PM »But for the millionth time, you cannot bring your subjective truth to society and force them to accept youYou and everyone with your sick mentality are all going to die and be grandfathered out of existence within the next century. It's pretty scary to be honest Scary that closed minded bigots like you who think they're tolerant will be the ones leading society soon 5968
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:33:38 PM »We should look into viable treatments and destroy this thought that it is something that is completely normalNo one is saying it's normal. It's obviously a malfunction that happens at birth. Ignoring the issue until this magical cure that will never exist comes along and makes everything right is going to do any good. It's not like accepting trans people somehow encourages it. And transphobia is obviously a big problem that they face which just makes their life harder. There's no harm that can rationally be attributed to encouraging an accepting society. I never said we shouldn't accept them I just say we should acknowledge that it's a mental disease Even if you don't want to acknowledge that then fine But what I'm against is the necessity for fictionalized thinking that the trans community is imposing on society 5969
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:27:55 PM »Uh pretty sure everyone sees gender dysphoria as a mental illness. What's the issue?What do you mean by normalizing?Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense. Except they don't You will be skinned alive if you dare to say that transgender people aren't normal 5970
The Flood / Re: Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease« on: March 18, 2016, 10:27:10 PM »Have you ever taken the moment to analyze the difference between an untreated schizoids ability to function in society compared to a "untreated" (transitioned) trans person? Unless of course your definition of "ability to function in society" includes procreative sex, in which case you're entering full retard. Clarify |