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5101
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:38:59 PM »
Personally, I can't wait til the government actually resolves this whole ordeal. Schools have to follow federal law because they receive federal funding, so states really have no right to throw a pissy fit over all this. I just know that right now I may have to find another district to work in since my county is losing funding as well.
Actually each state is responsible for its own education system They just get federal money (which is a lot) if they comply with Department of Education guidelines And the government money is quite easy to get so states form their budget with that funding expected to be obtained So schools are kinda dependent on the government which sucks because now Obama can bully them into doing whatever he wants them to do
5102
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:21:05 PM »
This is an extremely large assumption. There is nothing that suggests that humans (Or any life) and the way we function is anything but fundamental forces and particles interacting with each other in specific ways to produce our minds. There's no reason to think there's some unknown force at play. I already talked about this whole thing with Verb earlier in the thread, so I won't write it out again. Like I said We just need more information Like I said, you're making the concept of consciousness more fanciful than it probably is.
I think the fact that we would question our very own creator is pretty amazing
5103
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:17:54 PM »
 GOD BLESS
5104
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:09:18 PM »
Unwarranted assumption This is not an assumption at all.
Like that said That robot is stabilizing itself using info we put into it That's all it can ever do It can never grow past that programming It can never cook because it can't learn how to It doesn't have the programming and can't conceive a cooking program of its own Sounds like DNA to me.
To be honest, this is a subject we still lack information on We'll need more research Maybe we'll find something that is inherent to us And if we don't, that raises even more questions Which I guess proves our humanity even more
5105
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:59:25 PM »
5106
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:58:54 PM »
No it isn't, robots can grow and change to adapt to a situation.
Unwarranted assumption And the robots that can "adapt" to situations only adapt to situations because we gave them the information for that situation There's no growth They're just regurgitating what was put into them
5107
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:21:28 PM »
Why does society value things that go directly against our evolutionary instict Firstly, I don't know what "Instinct" you're implying all of this stuff goes against. Second, even if it were to go against a ton of "Natural instinct," we no longer have to exclusively act on that instinct because we've developed a complex enough society and collective intelligence to realize that not everything in nature is ideal. We've come to understand we can improve on things through rationalization and logic, things that nature doesn't always cater to.
I'm implying our instincts as animals That is our "programming" is it not We've come to understand we can improve on things through rationalization and logic, things that nature doesn't always cater to.
This right here You take our ability to grow and change as something that's a given but that's exactly what separates us from robots
5108
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:11:11 PM »
Because I was born and put into the school system, then told that I needed to work hard and learn, otherwise my parents would yell at me, I wouldn't get a good job, and I'd be a loser when I grew up. All of those things are worries that strike at the core of how a human would naturally respond to negative stimuli, which is avoidance. So I worked hard, got into a good college, and will probably live a decently successful life as a result.
And why do they say that Why does society value things that go directly against our evolutionary instict In short Where has this change come from?
5109
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:05:03 PM »
Culture and societal norms. And these norms exist because we were programmed to reproduce and pass on our genetic material?
That's not really what I said. Those things develop because humans gathered and began interacting with each other in unique ways, in different locations, under different influences, facing different dangers, and overcoming different struggles. You can get wildly different cultures by jumbling the things humans have to deal with, as you can see with today's world.
No but you're saying this comes from our "programming" Which implies that we were preloaded with ways to react to certain situations So how did these "struggles" change from surviving long enough to reproduce to worrying about turning in that assignment on time
5110
« on: May 26, 2016, 05:00:56 PM »
Culture and societal norms. And these norms exist because we were programmed to reproduce and pass on our genetic material? And if so, we do we no longer value these instincts today?
5111
« on: May 26, 2016, 04:52:02 PM »
Is robot "life" just following algorithms or is there something inherently there? I mean, this is the same question I was answering. I'd say human minds are literally just following instructions, and that there's nothing particularly special about us other than the complexity of our brains. So I don't see why a sufficiently advanced robot, as far-fetched as that might be, couldn't be conscious in the same way.
What instructions are we following exactly because if you look at our evolutionary growth, we have not been sticking to one set of instructions
5112
« on: May 26, 2016, 04:50:26 PM »
How would we know that the robot actually feels things like love and pain and joy and isn't just secretly plotting a hostile takeover of the world behind a well maintained facade?
tfw loli bot doesn't mean it when she says I love you
5113
« on: May 26, 2016, 04:46:25 PM »
Of course
There is nothing special about an organic brain that cannot be replicated by a sufficiently advanced synthetic one.
Emotions, Desires, Thoughts, Fears are all a result of internal and external 'programming', either in the form of your biology (genetics/hormonal levels) or your learning.
If you make a program that can learn new things, you are already on par with most organic life. If you make a program that can rationalise a decision, you've surpassed all non-sentient life. If you make a robot that can do all that and have laser eyes, we have no need for meatbags anymore.
I disagree How can "programming" account for hopes and dreams, aspiration, regret, motivation, and seemingly useless emotions and customs that we have We have grown from cave dwelling creatures to civilized humans And if you say we are just beings with programs too, evolution dictates that we are here to eat and fuck So where has culture and art come from Why do we choose to choose to be monogamous instead of polygamous like our programming dictates And why do we go against our programming to stay with our mate when we feel attraction to other people Why do we make such unproductive choices? Why do things that we know are bad for us and that we shouldn't do? There is something inherent there
5114
« on: May 26, 2016, 04:45:08 PM »
I don't know for certain, but I personally like to think it's possible. If something achieves the same amount of neurological complexity as a living organism... Why does it matter what it's made of? Like others have said, you'd say "Well, they're just machines," but so are humans, we're just made of different things than what we'd call a "Robot."
But the problem with this concept is that you'd never actually be able to prove the sentience of a non-biological organism, so I feel like there'd always be some people who doubted if they were conscious. But yeah, It think it may be an interesting possibility.
I'm not talking about metal versus flesh I'm talking about Is robot "life" just following algorithms or is there something inherently there?
5115
« on: May 26, 2016, 11:32:02 AM »
He cheats on his wife and has no qualms about it.
I would never cheat on you
5116
« on: May 26, 2016, 10:46:09 AM »
I've been reading up on companies building robots that can feel 'pain' now and I thought "well they're just programmed to respond a certain way once temperature or pressure thresholds are crossed"
But then I thought
That's exactly what humans do too
Which got me thinking
Can we ever create life?
Personally I think no
5117
« on: May 26, 2016, 10:27:58 AM »
vayn
like the human vein
Vayn
These niggas dropped out of school when they were 4
5118
« on: May 26, 2016, 08:48:02 AM »
Ender
5119
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:52:30 AM »
Bye bye baby~
5120
« on: May 26, 2016, 06:46:26 AM »
This thread has gotten so far up its own ass that any chance of seeing sunlight is now permanently vanquished
5121
« on: May 25, 2016, 10:50:23 PM »
Sadbois become madbois
5122
« on: May 25, 2016, 10:27:11 PM »
Grab some twinkle toes
5123
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:27:13 PM »
ha ha isnt equality so annoying, guys?
>time was spent making this
>time was spent making you
5124
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:24:04 PM »
I'm not 37 lol
If I was that old and still posted I would kill myself
Ok whew I was like At least nigga has personality lol
5125
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:21:30 PM »
tfw no bf
ahem
I don't wanna go to jail
I've reached the age of consent in my state
do you want a 37 year old?
Wow Are you cute tho
5126
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:18:47 PM »
tfw no bf
ahem
I don't wanna go to jail
I've reached the age of consent in my state
5127
« on: May 25, 2016, 09:09:16 PM »
ha ha isnt equality so annoying, guys?
5129
« on: May 25, 2016, 08:49:11 PM »
At least you stopped
My cat followed me when I was walking and he got hit by a car and ran off
Driver didn't even stop
He's ok tho
5130
« on: May 25, 2016, 08:45:24 PM »
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