tbh I just danced with honeys all night

no candy

ugh I want to dance with a cute twink all night

Where does he get it from

Synthwave is <3

I don't use public shitters

Cheers
Root beer

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Quote from: Aether on October 29, 2016, 12:28:18 AM

Quote from: KawaiiKilla666 on October 29, 2016, 12:22:40 AM

well for one thing there is no cure for any mental issues, ever

This isn't exactly true. There are many mental health issues that correlate with poor physical health ergo curing the physical ailment can eliminate the related mental ailment.

im not saying youre wrong but list some

Anorexia and bulimia
Which transgenderism is in the same vein of
A mental belief that doesn't match up with physical reality 

Would you not say it's just "the getting transgenders cures we have trouble with"

How do you think homeless people ended up that way, giving them a house or even money doesn't guarantee they'll be fine for the rest of their lives, perhaps they went through a divorce, maybe they turned to drinking and couldn't afford anything, giving them a house and money isn't going to change that, much less finding a way to pay for it

on top of that you'll want them to be satisfied with their life so that it doesn't happen again, and then you'll be dealing with all sorts of personal issues you'll also need to "fix"

Well no doubt homelessness is a complex issue but the main problem is that they don't have homes
That's why they're called homeless
Fix the main problem and whatever else they have to deal with can come in stride

For transgenders to be likened to homeless people, we would have to know how to fix it
It's not as simple as "having trouble getting the cure for transgenderism" when we don't even know what the cure is
The "cure" we have right now is ineffective and stops the search for a better cure because it's considered the end all be all

what would you define as an "actual" cure in this case, what would be a meaningful result

Lowering depression and suicide to that of a normal population
Also believing you are something you physically and biologically aren't is mental illness in of itself but if people want to willingly delude themselves, fine
I just want them to stop killing themselves

as it stands, there have been some successes with HRT, im not saying all, but some have had good results, who told you this has stopped anyone looking for a better way to deal with this

if you are able to prevent some suicides, is it not better than having prevented none as the current best possible solution

Right
I never said we should stop HRT for the time being
If it allows some to live comfortably then I'm glad
But it's a short sighted solution because it's considered the final solution when actually it's really fixing very little

Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on October 29, 2016, 12:00:48 AM

Transgenders are different because we don't know how to fix the issue

Grow a society that doesn't treat them as subhuman.

The fastest way to achieve this would be to kill everyone who thinks like you.

We live in the most accepting society in history
Transgender people still have one of the highest suicide rates in history
One that not even slaves had
So you can't tell me that it's society's fault for this 

The suicide statistics are honestly a pretty flawed way of justifying anything in regards to hrt. Homeless people in shelters still drink themselves to death. Guess we should just stop helping the homeless...

Likening homeless people to transgenders is really idiotic

We know how to fix the homeless issue
Get them homes and they stop killing themselves
It's just getting them the homes we have trouble with

Transgenders are different because we don't know how to fix the issue
We think we do with transition but that doesn't yield a meaningful result
And transitioning just stops the look for an actual cure   

But no really, you've got a marginalized minority group that ostracized from normal society and rarely truly accepted by large groups of people. No duh they're still going to off themselves, especially trans youth who risk homeless more than any other alternative lifestyle group.

Actually suicide rate is the perfect statistic to define transgenderism as a mental disease since it is insanely high
Not even African slaves had this high of a suicide rate and we know slavery and Jim Crow was the height of discrimination in America

Agreed. The Feds never should have had a say in forcing us to end slavery and then segregation too.

Except we literally fought a war over it and the winners were anti slavery people

Supreme court should also have never ruled on gay marriage.

Gay marriage is still an issue today
The federal government is forcing independent religious services to cater to gay people

The issue is that liberals who push these issues love to use the "it's moral therefore it's right" argument
I honestly don't care what the issue is, it could be something I support but if it is handled through bullying and intimidation, I won't stand for it 

Quote from: SecondClass on October 27, 2016, 11:47:07 PM

Quote from: Sαndtrap on October 27, 2016, 11:37:41 PM

Nice to see sep7agon can still host a bonfire without the use of matches.

If ya want some context Class, while you're right that women can be as strong as men, you're missing stuff. Strength comes naturally for guys. That's not bravado. It's science. Hormones and chemical make-up. Males have a higher drive due to testosterone and their instinctual aggressiveness. They're more prone to harsher things which neccessitates a stronger physiology.

Any body builder is going to be stronger than the average joe. That accounts for either sex. But if you look at averages? An average guy and an average girl? There's an easy to see gap. And what if you look at body builder women? Well, you'll notice some of them don't look so womanly anymore. They look like guys.

And even then, if we're looking at the extremes? I don't think I've ever heard of a woman body builder who could come closs to the levels of strength that Lois Cyr displayed. If you can find me one, then hey, knowledge is cool.

But you can't argue that guys fit the role of strength. If we didn't, we wouldn't need so much testosterone or instinctual aggressiveness.

We DONT need testosterone or aggressiveness

a truly moral society is 100% passive all the time

and yeah, obviously the average male is stronger than the average female, the problem is when you conflating physicality with masculinity as if it was a gender exclusive trait

as if women are the paragon of morality

have you ever seen them fight

claws, biting and blood, not nice

Bits of weave left in the hallway

Because literally no one takes him seriously

Big shocker. The parents hide stuff about their kids and the school covers for them. Not like they've done that before at all.

You're right
It's disgraceful that schools hiding information from parents isn't shocking anymore

I totally forgot about the last time I saw a militia guarding the Target bathrooms, waiting for any damn sick perverts trying to get in.  Their response time?  Top.  Notch.

A lot of things in our society is guarded by unseen barriers
Like how thieves don't enter your house not because a two inch door is blocking them
But because they don't want the police to come and shoot them down in the street

Same with bathrooms
Regardless of response time or anything of the sort, it protected by the full extent of the law

And nothing that I said refutes the idea that a physiological difference exists.  Just that it's an unimportant difference when it comes to trivial things that leave people no more or less vulnerable.

The existence of males and females is one of the most important difference in biology
Why it matters in our society is because we haven't transcended relationships and reproduction
So as long as we need babies, we need genders
And as long as we have genders, nature dictates anything involving genitals be separate which means bathrooms

How is this any different than if my roommate turned out to be gay?  Should a barrier be placed on him?  After all, he could be a gay rapist.  He could try to use the men's bathroom to rape smaller men.

Separate bathrooms don't exist to prevent rape
They exist to ensure privacy and comfort
And the only way to ensure that is when you are among members of your own gender

And we've seen how good forced-therapy goes for depressed kids with identity issues.

Who said anything about forcing transgenders to undergo treatment?
I'm sure transgenders aren't being forced to undergo transition today