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9571
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:28:28 PM »
Anything below 30 is very very choppy and your controls respond slower and not in synch.
Or what Citrus Orange Juice Snake said.
Yeah, I know--but that's still not an objectively bad thing. A clever developer could factor the choppiness into the game, somehow. Don't ask me how--I'm just illustrating a point.
The point is moot since it would never ever happen.
9572
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:27:46 PM »
Not objectively. Maybe input latency and visual feedback latency is part of the game/experience.
Verb just stop. It's okay to admit if you're wrong on something.
9573
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:24:03 PM »
I said below 30fps. Not at 30fps.
I have no issue with games being 30fps.
How is a lower number "worse" than a higher number just because it is lower?
If you get 1st place in a race, did you lose? Because you got the lowest possible number?
Anything below 30 is very very choppy and your controls respond slower and not in synch. Or what Citrus Orange Juice Snake said.
9574
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:23:08 PM »
You don't know because they never ever say that. Unless you're Ubisoft who said 30fps = more cinematic and that they didn't make a female lead in Assassins Creed because the character models didn't allow it or some retarded shit.
I know--I'm not even saying it's ever been "done," necessarily. I'm just saying it could be done.
At the end of the day, I agree with you--I do not care about fps either way as long as its consistent, but even THAT can be made inconsistent for the sake of art. It's done in movies all the time.
Frame rate is just one facet of what people cite makes PC games function better than console games, though. There's other facets I'm trying to cover as well.
I gotcha.
9575
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:16:37 PM »
griffith from berserk.
Haha I love that meme
9576
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:09:43 PM »
I'm gonna go play stuff now
you've been saying that for awhile now
you keep drawing me back in and I keep running into blocks.
9577
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:09:21 PM »
You really can't though. I am.
Framerate of movies and games aren't the same.
Movies don't suffer from stuff like input latency and visual feedback like games do, both of which are tied directly to the framerate. But I'm saying it's possible for game developers to say, "Artistically, I think it would be better if this game ran at a low frame rate."
Not because it's "more cinematic"--whatever that even means. But for other reasons. I don't know.
Wanting to give an authentic '80s gaming experience. I don't fucking know.
I'm saying it's conceivable for 30fps to be better, so no amount of frames-per-second can be objectively "better" than another.
You don't know because they never ever say that. Unless you're Ubisoft who said 30fps = more cinematic and that they didn't make a female lead in Assassins Creed because the character models didn't allow it or some retarded shit.
9578
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:07:41 PM »
I'm gonna go play stuff now
9579
« on: October 08, 2015, 06:03:57 PM »
We're not talking about movies (even though they run at 24 fps for the majority of them) If film directors can make artistic decisions like that, game developers can, too.
I don't care about 30 vs 60 fps honestly. My only gripe is that if you're gonna commit to one, it better be consistent, because dips in it are some of the most annoying things ever that suck you out of a game.
I agree completely. The point that I'm making is that 60fps can't be objectively better than 30fps--I've painted a number of scenarios where 30fps would be preferable. You call it "pseudo-philosophy"--I call it making my point. If I'm not allowed to make my point, I don't know what else to do.
I wasn't calling it pseudo-philosophy on the FPS part at all. I was referring to your talk of more pixelated graphics and lower res stuff.
9580
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:57:33 PM »
then you took an arrow to the knee?
9581
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:55:07 PM »
We're not talking about movies (even though they run at 24 fps for the majority of them) If film directors can make artistic decisions like that, game developers can, too.
I don't care about 30 vs 60 fps honestly. My only gripe is that if you're gonna commit to one, it better be consistent, because dips in it are some of the most annoying things ever that suck you out of a game.
9582
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:53:40 PM »
mommy and daddy never forked out for an 800 gaming rig for me. I want to play games so never could commit for saving up money for it myself. I could commit 380 euros to get consoles so yeah...
Uhm Gaming computers are cheaper than ever and you could buy one that ran the same as a PS4/Xbone and have it still be cheaper. The thousand dollar rigs you see are for idiots who probably want launch nukes and overclock their PC's.
9583
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:51:50 PM »
As I said, your personal preference shouldn't influence the factual things we're talking about.
I'm not attacking what you like. You can like PS1 looking polygons with Lara Croft pointy tits, but that won't change the fact that modern games on higher performing systems will look better.
Do you understand what I'm asking you? Why is higher poly objectively "better"? Why does "more" automatically mean "better"?
I'm not getting into this pseudo philosophical debate when it's a rather objective field to be talking about. Sorry
9584
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:50:07 PM »
We're not talking about movies (even though they run at 24 fps for the majority of them)
and the 30 vs 60fps game into play, so I'm opting out.
Verb when I said FPS drops I meant things that are running at 30 dropping below it and making it choppy
and 60 fps games also dipping into the 40's as well.
Now you may not be a fan of the whole 60fps thing, but even you can agree that if frames aren't steady, be it 30 or 60, it can be extremely jarring. In fact one of the more interesting games I wanted to look at on PS3 I avoided because of reports it CONSTANTLY dipped to 20 and blow. That's just bad.
9585
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:47:23 PM »
Both of you shut up
9586
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:45:48 PM »
rocket league
That's also on PS4
Yeah I was gonna say that but I'd rather meme it up.
9587
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:44:42 PM »
rocket league
the list goes on and on.
ROCKET LEAGUE LOOKS DAMN FUN!!!!!
9588
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:43:55 PM »
That one isn't opinion based. Games can easily look better when running at a higher power, there is no opinion about that. Whether it matters to YOU personally or not is a different story, but to say it doesn't look/perform better is just flat out a lie. Define "better", then. Maybe I actually prefer graphics to be lower poly, or whatever. Maybe I like that. Maybe that's better in a different sense then you're thinking of.
As I said, your personal preference shouldn't influence the factual things we're talking about. I'm not attacking what you like. You can like PS1 looking polygons with Lara Croft pointy tits, but that won't change the fact that modern games on higher performing systems will look better.
9589
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:42:39 PM »
Console wars aside, the next generation of consoles were insanely outdated before they even came out, and they already reached the top graphical performance they could.
Where as the 360/PS3 easily evolved because of the technology packed into it. They didn't do the same for next gen because of the price it would cost them.
9590
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:41:13 PM »
Pez has better SOUNDS
Not gonna lie, they do have better graphics and player models as well.
And that matters when the gameplay is absolute dog shit.
youre just bad eh
I'm gonna choke you if you don't hush your slutty mouth.
9591
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:40:10 PM »
Pez has better SOUNDS
Not gonna lie, they do have better graphics and player models as well.
And that matters when the gameplay is absolute dog shit.
9592
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:39:46 PM »
Yeah I can't imagine how a game looking and running better would be rational or intelligent to want. Because it doesn't look or run that much better by comparison. It's the same game.
I would normally agree with you, but again, Metal Gear Solid 5 on Xbox 360, as opposed to PS4/PC indeed looks worse. By your logic it shouldn't because it's "the same game". That one isn't opinion based. Games can easily look better when running at a higher power, there is no opinion about that. Whether it matters to YOU personally or not is a different story, but to say it doesn't look/perform better is just flat out a lie.
9593
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:38:02 PM »
good thread cindy
pez > fifa
This is war
you think you can win?
You're not the sister I can easily win
9594
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:37:29 PM »
You guys can argue
I'm gonna go play my emulation of MGS 1 and then play my pirated Assassins Creed Rogue
I'm a naughty person tee hee~
9595
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:37:00 PM »
good thread cindy
pez > fifa
This is war
9596
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:36:22 PM »
Also, just the fact that you can play in on a console doesn't matter, fam. It still performs worse In ways that don't/shouldn't matter to any rational, intelligent person.
Not true, seeing as Metal Gear Solid V has frame rate dips that make it choppy.
9597
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:33:13 PM »
I just went "pfft" because you instantly went the Nintendo fanboy route, that's all. I listed two Nintendo games.
PC also doesn't have Infamous, or LittleBigPlanet, or Klonoa 2, or fucking anything worth playing.
Verb I don't care. Direct your arguing to the one defending her points.
9598
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:32:47 PM »
Depression Quest
haha, that whole post is actually really funny. Two HD pictures and then just that.
9599
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:29:42 PM »
I just went "pfft" because you instantly went the Nintendo fanboy route, that's all.
you guys are really arguing over it with a shitposting thread.
9600
« on: October 08, 2015, 05:20:33 PM »
console gamers are delusional and just dont want to have to face the fact that their gaming platforms are inherently inferior
>no wind waker
>no super metroid
>no games at all
all right
pfft
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