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« on: November 23, 2015, 01:16:35 PM »
Well, that's what you think about the two games.
Well I guess you really don't want to discuss it then for whatever reason. Boring person.
8162
« on: November 23, 2015, 12:51:26 PM »
the lack of real choice in fo4 is extremely annoying.
That and the dialogue/established personality are the things that drag it down for me.
8163
« on: November 23, 2015, 12:06:40 PM »
And here is a good example of exactly why the Electoral College is needed, and why direct popular vote is a bad thing.
The popular vote normally wins anyway, only 4 times has the President won without the popular vote. Alongside this, the US is a democratic nation where people's views and thoughts should be equally represented, even if you disagree with said views.
It's not that simple considering how massive the US is and the main stay areas. The people in the smaller states wouldn't have nearly as much a say as those in big ones.
8164
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:37:32 AM »
So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
8165
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:30:28 AM »
4>3>NV>2>1
I'm surprised you rate 3 ahead of NV or the originals. I'm curious as to why.
I just had more fun playing 3 then I did playing NV.
I have really weird ideals for a good game, things like bad combat and whatnot don't bother me in games. I'll usually enjoy a game no matter what (unless its really shitty).
If I had to break it down to the main reasons why I like the game more it would be
1. Location
2. The DLC (Not saying NV had bad dlc but I liked 3's waaaaay more)
3. Better radio IMO
I could go on but I feel like I'm doing a poor job at this, sorry.
The DLC in Fallout 3 like Mothership Zeta I thought was awful. The story was also piss poor along with the factions. I honestly enjoyed NV's location more because it seemed like each location was actually worth something more. Radio is the only thing I'd give 3 over NV. Edit: Aside from Dead Money's actual gameplay, the story itself in each of NV's DLC's blew 3's out of the water. Both individual and overarching.
8166
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:29:12 AM »
If you were just a random person in the wasteland, then yeah, you'd stay away, but in fallout 3 you're looking for your dad then after you do that you just want to help him achieve this goal and help everybody out.
It's no more random than finding revenge on the guy who shot you, before being brought into something bigger.
8167
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:19:23 AM »
You really are just the tipping factor in all of it anyway, when things are just reaching the brink.
8168
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:15:34 AM »
I didn't like how kind of unrealistic it was.
You're gonna get upset at "realism" in a Fallout universe when you compare it to Fallout 1 and 2? The first thing wrong with any of these games is how radiation works. It's not at all realistic to how it works irl.
I wasn't comparing it really.
And in the fallout universe a lot of things don't work the same way as they do irl, that's one of the reasons why it's a fiction.
I'm saying its unrealistic in how the character just decides to take over Nevada all of the sudden.
You don't really take it over yourself though. It's also unrealistic how you raid a military base and blow it up after beating a giant dude in an outfit before they spread a gas across the entire planet. It's a political thing in NV that slowly unravels anyway in NV.
8169
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:07:36 AM »
>Fallout new vegas was unrealistic
>but the brotherhood of steel AND the enclave happening to wander to the same place, with neither knowing about the other and the brotherhood finding a giant robot that they actually manage to get working then defeating the army that has air and orbital superiority and manufacturing facilities for it's equipment and highly trained soldiers is realistic
unrealistic isn't a valid argument when talking about a game series set in an alternate 1950's retro future where there are nuclear powered cars and robots but the world goes to war over oil and culture remained stagnant for over a century
But getting shot in the head at point blank and surviving is kinda retarded
People survive that more often than you'd think actually.
Maybe not a high calibre round to the brainpan, but I'm fairly certain you see people surviving .22 and 9mm rounds.
I was gonna mention that. And if you see where he shot you (from like, mods and stuff), it wasn't dead center.
8170
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:04:09 AM »
Also, they brotherhood aren't a bunch or idiot savages. They have high tech stuff and they're smart. It's not a big surprise they got liberty prime working, and iirc liberty prime was still being kept in DC because they never got to deploy it (haven't played in years son Imay be wrong) so it's not to hard to believe that they found it.
His other points still stand, like how the two factions don't know they're there, or how shallow the BoS is in that game, or how the story makes absolutely no sense.
Or how a group like the Eastern BOS was able to get Prime working in a matter of weeks. Something which the US Army couldn't do in years.
Or why the enclave never decided to orbital strike the Brotherhood until they had been REQd by Prime for two weeksm
Or how the Enclave got in the vault where you were, or why you were even against them for purifying the water when no one but Eden wanted to infect it, or how Autumn survived the radiation because he simply gave himself a shot (yeah okay), or a lot of things. There was NO EXPOSITION either. Or at least something so basic as "they're here now". Things were happening simply for the sake of happening. That's horrible storytelling.
8171
« on: November 23, 2015, 10:56:02 AM »
4>3>NV>2>1
I'm surprised you rate 3 ahead of NV or the originals. I'm curious as to why.
8172
« on: November 23, 2015, 10:51:29 AM »
Also, they brotherhood aren't a bunch or idiot savages. They have high tech stuff and they're smart. It's not a big surprise they got liberty prime working, and iirc liberty prime was still being kept in DC because they never got to deploy it (haven't played in years son Imay be wrong) so it's not to hard to believe that they found it.
His other points still stand, like how the two factions don't know they're there, or how shallow the BoS is in that game, or how the story makes absolutely no sense.
8173
« on: November 23, 2015, 10:49:28 AM »
I didn't like how kind of unrealistic it was.
You're gonna get upset at "realism" in a Fallout universe when you compare it to Fallout 1 and 2? The first thing wrong with any of these games is how radiation works. It's not at all realistic to how it works irl.
8174
« on: November 23, 2015, 12:13:07 AM »
Ya pretty much ep3 Obiwan anakin style except the part where anakin gets his legs cut off cause it looked very anti climatic
 More flipping randomly!
8175
« on: November 23, 2015, 12:12:37 AM »
Considering the original trilogy actually handled them like swords instead of flips, that. But I wouldn't mind a good mixture of both, just so long as it's not too much like some of the prequel stuff. There is a reason this exists
8176
« on: November 22, 2015, 10:35:43 PM »
Gunna start setting up a cosplay for next year, of course its gotta be Fallout related.
What do you guys think is the most iconic armor besides Power Armor?
Im thinking the Colonial Duster (Prestons atire) and damn I gotta build a laser musket.
 that
8177
« on: November 22, 2015, 08:51:36 PM »
KOTOR 3, made by Obsidian and without EA shitting it up.
8178
« on: November 22, 2015, 07:53:30 PM »
Everybody fell for the whole push the truck with push and you can get to the moon to capture Mew in the original pokemon. Though there is a very weird, practical non cheating method to getting Mew in the original two and it's weird as hell. Also very fun. Makes me wonder if they intentionally put it in.
Anyway, that you could save Aeris in FF7. Even the official strategy guide said you could, which is stupid.
8179
« on: November 22, 2015, 07:49:08 PM »
2 is objectively better than the original.
This is true, though you gotta love what the original did in starting it all, and slowly uncovering that there is more than just getting water for your vault. Super Mutants were intimidating as hell.
8180
« on: November 22, 2015, 06:37:50 PM »
Just wondering: Is there a reason why there wasn't a section detailing the technical side of the game, such as animations/performance etc.? I think the clumsiness of settlement building should be included as well. Good review though.
Because it's a Bethesda game and we all know what to expect from the same engine they've been using since Oblivion, and the glitches present. Though some animations in convo's did surprise me for the better.
8181
« on: November 22, 2015, 02:44:42 PM »
I haven't been bored with the world, I really like exploring it, but I feel as if once I've found every place it'll be different because it feels like there's not much of a reason to explore except for the sake of exploring.
That's really it. Exploring for the sake of exploring, and while that's fine, a lot of what prompts people to explore is because games like this have a carrot at the end of the stick method, where they tease you into exploring in hopes of bigger rewards. You come across that random cave/building on your way to a destination? Why not explore it, you might find an interesting story or a really cool weapon or some neat looking armor if you do. That's completely removed from Fallout 4 and it makes me actually think "do I want to waste 15 minutes in this building collecting things for my settlement, or just go to my objective?" You know there won't be a good weapon in there, you know the armor won't be anything better than what you already have either. Your only hope is some legendary enemy in there drops something interesting, and odds are it won't be. I'm speaking from a high level perspective when I say this. By the time you're around level 20, it basically removes any real reason to explore anything unless you're naked or something.
8182
« on: November 22, 2015, 02:39:18 PM »
Another problem is I'm already bored with the world. No weapons in dungeons and all that = already being bored. That and it feels like a lot of the magic simply isn't there. Aside from the lore in some terminal, it's just boring to me now.
8183
« on: November 22, 2015, 02:24:46 PM »
Maybe just being a boring moralfag here, but Spoiler I wish in one of these games you could unite the factions or at least clear up their misconceptions. The Brotherhood hate the Institute...because robots are abominations, apparently? The Institute has the brightest minds on the East Coast and they don't even question the personhood of robots specifically designed to be increasingly aware and autonomous, with personalities literally downloaded from human brains? The Railroad seems pretty justified but still unwilling to cooperate with anyone; the Brotherhood have no reason to go after these people. You could unite some factions in New Vegas.
8184
« on: November 22, 2015, 01:35:23 PM »
Great review. Could anyone with experience with the endings comment on each faction's conclusion? Like, how satisfying are they? I'm leaning towards the Railroad because the Institute are assholes and it's fun to fight vertibirds, but if the ending sucks I'll go a different route.
The only faction that feels like it has an actual buildup, climax, and ending, is the Brotherhood of Steel. I beat it with them and the Institute, and then saw the ending for Railroad and Minutemen. They pale in comparison. BoS actually makes you make a few hard decisions, and the finale actually seems like it's a finale. The others do not in the slightest. Though there is one complaint, and it's... Spoiler that they just rely on Liberty Prime again as you make your way to the Institute. You would think they'd think of something other than relying on Fallout 3's final mission, but nah.
8185
« on: November 22, 2015, 05:44:02 AM »
I more meant references. Like how Veronica in NV mentions the Brotherhood Civil War in F3, I wish there were mentions in Brotherhood terminals of the NCR-Brotherhood war, or the NCR-Legion war, or ecen the Midwestern BOS-Legion war. Just passing mentions would be nice, not definitive 'this is what happens'.
After playing Skyrim, it was hard to get into Oblivion. The menus were clunky and the characters looked awful. Like, really bad. It was more of an effort to play and the story wasn't interesting enough to keep me going through. The dialogue system was fucking atrocious as well, I never figured that out.
They make references in 4 like you mention. Even the Shi, when even Obsidian didn't mention in NV. As for Oblivion, yeah that skill dialogue thing was bad, but you can't sit here and tell me the main story for Skyrim was better than Oblivion. It was clunky, yeah, but for the time it was in, it's just a much better game for the customization, depth, and actual writing of things such as quests and the journals you find. This brings up a good point (the whole video actually if you wanna watch) https://youtu.be/1wujJnlsJh4?t=735
8186
« on: November 22, 2015, 05:14:51 AM »
I'm still happy to give Fallout 4 a solid 9/10. It's easily the best game I've bought in years- at least since I bought the entire Mass Effect ttilogy pre-owned for £12.
However, I stand by in that NV had the better writing overall. But having seen Bethesda's track record with Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim, I'd say they are slowly but surely improving. I'm disappointed that they pretty much pretended NV doesn't exist, from no inclusion of Riot Armour, to simple things like some of the magazines/ skill books and such. I like that mention of the NCR in one of the quests, though. That was nice. Even so, I pretty much predicted what would have happened to Shaun - I guess I've just seen too much Sci-Fi so I'm able to guess stuff like that. I'm also surprised there's no ability to craft weapons/ armour from scratch- raider, metal, leather armours and simple weapons should be craftable from raw materials, IMO. Similarly, I'm disappointed there's no ammo crafting anymore. The game would lend itself perfectly to crafting bullets and different ammo types.
However, the worldspace is amazing and really fun to play in, I love that power armour is actually power armour, and ammo/ caps are actually somewhat hard to find in the early (and even mid-late) game, meaning you will have to scavenge. I wish Fusion Cores were a bit rarer.
Also, the atmosphere of the Glowing Sea, and when in radiation storms (the weather in this game is beautifully done) is amazing. Really intense, and really feels like they took the Divide/ Capital Wasteland and upped it by 10. It's a really fun location to explore.
Well they're kind enough to not mention NV because it's not their work. I like that they respect the original people's zone across the US. It's 2500+ miles away, so naturally it wouldn't make much of a difference. In regards to that track record, I'd call Skyrim a downgrade from Oblivion on many a thing. Sure not graphics or combat (though that always sucked), but just production values and how they went about things. Quests and writing was more creative in Oblivion, but has been steadily declining since Morrowind.
8187
« on: November 22, 2015, 04:06:51 AM »
Well, if you've only been together for a few months, then that "newness" spark is just gone. Either you're spending too much time around em I would think, or you're just not doing anything exciting much. Try doing something together if that's the case.
8188
« on: November 22, 2015, 04:00:41 AM »
Hmm..
8189
« on: November 22, 2015, 03:53:11 AM »
You nailed what I couldn't put my finger on, Cindy. You have a personality pre-established in game, but the only thing given to you is the tone in which you do it.
Also, Ron Pealman not being there broke my heart. He's been there since the original and they scrap him.
Apparently he is in Fallout 4, as the anchorman on TV who talks about the bombs dropping
...Is that really him? What a way too subtle add in.
8190
« on: November 22, 2015, 03:49:21 AM »
You nailed what I couldn't put my finger on, Cindy. You have a personality pre-established in game, but the only thing given to you is the tone in which you do it.
Also, Ron Pealman not being there broke my heart. He's been there since the original and they scrap him.
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