Quote from: Luciana on December 07, 2015, 09:41:07 PM

Also guys, like Skyrim, Oblivion is pretty good with mods. Overhaul for the faces is a good thing.

Unlike Skyrim, Oblivion actually REQUIRED mods in order to make it playable.

No it didn't, and you know it didn't. Otherwise it wouldn't have been sold in the first place. You're just being dramatic.

Also guys, like Skyrim, Oblivion is pretty good with mods. Overhaul for the faces is a good thing.

Quote from: Luciana on December 07, 2015, 09:11:12 PM

The thing that makes Oblivion stand up when compared to Skyrim, is the writing, and presentation. Hell even the voice acting too, and it was only with like 5 people. Skyrim's writing and voice acting are horrible. The quests are just uncreative and boring as well.

STOP

YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LAW

PAY THE COURT A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE

YOUR STOLEN GOODS ARE NOW FORFEIT

That cheesiness easily made it more memorable than half the things in Skyrim

Quote from: RomanGladiator on December 07, 2015, 06:58:48 PM

Quote from: DisturbedMind883 on December 07, 2015, 06:54:21 PM

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I don't like black women, sorry not sorry. Or Asian or anything but Caucasian. Need my girls pale and chubby or it's a no go.

black woman are better in bed.

even if they're ugly to you it's still a fact, trust me

Ripping invaders' throats out DOES sound pretty fun. Like, that's what you get when you use this evil mechanic, sort of thing.

Too bad it's just not guaranteed.

There is an entire faction in Dark Souls 2 that calls for the help of others when invaded. Almost like a guardian.

Oh yeah, I forgot about gestures. If an invader bows, it means they are friendly and if they kill you, no hard feelings.

People who do "Well, what is it?", shrug and point at the ground are generally cunts.

Unless it's a Giant Dad build. Then it's just memetastic.

street fighter has similar stuff

it's generally considered rude to win a game and then switch your character, for example
because you won--what the fuck do you need to change your character for

also, taunting is considered very disrespectful--more than you'd expect, and it's very frowned upon in tournaments
like, it's okay if you're with friends and you're just taunting, but like... in a tournament, it's disrespectful as fuck

so i get that

it's weird, but i get that

Taunting after you kill in Dark Souls (usually the finger wag in Dark Souls 2) is also frowned upon. It's amazing what a simple gesture from someone you've never met, or heard speak, can suddenly change how you see them as a person. Of course, I DO taunt when they try to run and heal and I kill them, simply because they tried to "cheat" in my eyes.

Though when I'm invading their world, I will do anything to really just upset them. Even if it's something as simple as letting them chase me and they can't catch me. It's fun to just go against the grain in the game sometimes and mess with people, because they do the same to you.

Or my favorite, when someone invades you, you camouflage into an object someplace and you just hear them looking for you. Then you send them a message just to taunt them. They have a 10 min time limit (though they can exit any time) so there is a sense of urgency.

TAIGA

But fuck, you Dark Souls fans make me want to.

Undertale fans make me want to blow my brains out

It doesn't mean the game is bad all of the sudden though

Just let him play the game already and stop complaining over the same useless crap you guys have gone over time and time again

Bloodbornes PvP was absolutely shit. It is not as engaging as Dark Souls 2, because all you do is jump all over the place and spam your blood vials. You don't even get punished for that.

It's bad. PvE vs monsters is good, but not PvP or fighting other hunters in PvE.

Besides, everyone forgot about that game after the first 3 months.


Edit: Actually, it doesn't help every single Souls game ever has servers developed by monkeys. The latency of BB is what helps kill it. You'll get blood/hit sound effects in it and the player will jump away just fine. It's annoying.

I explicitly said matchmaking. The glyph system actually allowed you to play with friends. They have also since fixed their servers and improved connectivity issues.
Co-op works great, better than it ever did in DaS.

I don't think anyone necessarily "forgot" about it either, it was unappreciated due to its exclusivity. It's the best game since Dark Souls.
[/quote]Oh my mistake.

Though honestly, I can easily say I enjoyed Dark Souls 2 more for replayability and mechanics, but loved my first run through Bloodborne much more so.

Geez, you two really know how to take a nice vibe of a thread and really degrade it with this useless arguing that's happened before about 4 times on this same exact topic.

I'm done talking about this stupid thing. Verb I'll engage you in actual Dark Souls thoughts whenever you actually get to playing it, rather than your pre-made judgement of it (no that's not an insult or a jab). I only told you about the offline thing for your consideration since it offers players an option in case they don't want to play online like the vast majority of their audience wants to.

I feel the conversation would actually provide more substance than just "no you're wrong it's good" and "no i'm right it's bad"

God, you're a nerd

and that's exactly why you fell for me.

as far as i'm concerned,
games shouldn't be praised for doing exactly what they should be doing anyway

like, okay, so the game doesn't hold your hand--so what
games aren't supposed to do that anyway, and there's a lot of games out there that don't (specifically older ones)

there are moments in fallout 3 where i feel like i'm being overly-pampered, sure, and that's kinda lame

but personally, i'm not really about the whole... praising games for, uh... functioning like a game is supposed to
that would be like congratulating an adult for not shitting himself, or something

like, sure, that's a good thing, but... it doesn't exactly warrant a medal

I praise it because it rejects the easy way out and goes against the grain.

I praise it because video games cost so much money to make, and when you see games like Call of Duty and how much money they make, it makes the temptation that much more to take the easy way out, lest you lose that money.

I praise it because the entire point of the industry is to push the current boundaries and trends, and to express your creative ingenuity in the form of pixels, music, and voices. Not to grow complacent and offer the same thing with a slightly different light.

I don't understand how a game being difficult makes it better. Halo 2 legendary being harder than the rest doesn't make it better than it's successors. Hell, if it weren't for the narrative quality of the game, it would be the worst in the series, IMO. Because it's certainly not the gameplay that made that good.

I never understood the appeal of Dark Souls. I generally like having an interesting narrative to pull things together, and that can generally get me to play games I otherwise wouldn't enjoy (Ie  Mass Effect 1, god awful gameplay but good story). I never particularly cared for DS' gameplay (I'm not keen on rolling simulator 2011) and honestly found it boring and frustrating. The setting was original, and I have to give it points for getting away from traditional western or japanese (Albeit I don't know much about japanese stuff too much) fantasy traditions. Though games like Bloodborne and Lords of the Fallen are making Dark Souls clone a genre now, like Saint's Row with GTA clone. But an original setting was where I stopped finding the game interesting and I never really found the urge to pick back up and play after I turned it off. I might pick it back up again if it's o  XB1 backwards compatibility. Maybe.

Dark Souls isn't a hard game. It's just not forgiving of mistakes. People like it because it punishes your own mistakes and how dark and consistent the atmosphere is. The creator himself was entirely against all that crap with "Prepare to die edition" and Dark Souls 2 message of "You'll die over and over", because he feels it completely skips the message of the game. Basically the message being that you run into obstacles in life that may seem hard. You may even fail a few times. But patience, determination, and adapting to the situation allows you to overcome the hardships you are faced with.

At least that's what Dark Souls 1 was about. Dark Souls 2 just has questionable things to make it more hard, like 6 Gargoyles just because, or adds on bosses.

Dark Souls atmosphere is one of the main appeals of the game and immerses people, along with a story you have to actually investigate and piece together yourself, and with the community that plays it. You may be right about some character or event, or you may not be. There is just enough ambiguity to guide the player down the general path, but not give him the transcript of it all.

They like it because it doesn't insult their intelligence by explaining everything to them and holding their hand for everything. And in today's day and age of the video game industry, that is a dying art. Consider old RPG's of the 90's and how you actually had to read entries to things, listen to NPC's, and actually think. There was no quest marker telling you exactly where to go, or things in the corners of your screen constantly reminding you of something you need to do, or giving you handicaps to help you out if you keep failing.

In fact, that reason right there is a huge reason people loved Morrowind and why everything after has been seen as too bland and uninteresting.