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Yellow has to be the worst color
Agreed.

Green > Purple = Blue > Orange = Red > Yellow
I love blue and purple

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Spoiler

le KOTOR
>yellow lightsaber

literally the color of misogyny

Spoiler
i'm kidding
Yellow has to be the worst color

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Serious / Re: Czech politician creates Libertarian utopia
« on: December 17, 2015, 01:36:50 AM »
"Libertarian utopia"
Lmao what an oxymoron
That made me laugh

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There is a long ass hair in this dinner .___.

THE FUCK IS THIS?!

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So you're saying what only qualifies is fat and ugly women?

Isn't that more shallow than anything?
Luci you're always telling me not to treat things so black and white.

It's not that black and white. There isn't just "impossibly attractive" and "fat and ugly"--there's a middle ground.

Alyx (I basically consider her the paragon of female characters right now) reaches that middle ground pretty well.
She's not ugly, but she's not impossibly beautiful to the point where you start questioning the motives of the developers.
Fair enough. My mistake.

@TBlocks (quote messed up)
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i would like to point out that I think most girls in real life like to make themselves look good. Like, is that a point we've glossed over a bit perhaps? That a woman can try to look good and present themselves in a way that is attractive?
That's an obvious point of course but it is a realistic point imo.
I also agree with this.


And now I eat dinner

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and no shit strong male characters exist, but there are fan serviced males too. I'm just saying that looking at it through one lens is wrong, and while they did fanservice some of those characters, THE ENTIRE POINT WAS THAT THE CHARACTERS ACTUALLY HAVE A CHARACTER AND PERSONALITY THAT OVERCOMES ANY OF THEIR DAMN LOOKS!

Regardless of if you like the outfits or not, that part is true.
Well, I did ask for female characters that are both strong and aren't designed to be physically attractive...
So you're saying what only qualifies is fat and ugly women?

Isn't that more shallow than anything?

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And yeah you can count Fem Shep considering Jennifer Hale does a great job voice acting her. Just because you can create a character, that shouldn't take away from them.

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The sex scenes barely show anything, and it's more movie tier. It's just as much fanservice for Shepard as well. It's not a big deal.

and no shit strong male characters exist, but there are fan serviced males too. I'm just saying that looking at it through one lens is wrong, and while they did fanservice some of those characters, THE ENTIRE POINT WAS THAT THE CHARACTERS ACTUALLY HAVE A CHARACTER AND PERSONALITY THAT OVERCOMES ANY OF THEIR DAMN LOOKS!

Regardless of if you like the outfits or not, that part is true.

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Okay well I have some pictures of female leads (or supporting lead, whatever) that don't rely on fanservice, just because I said I would. So here ya go (it's quite a bit, so sorry)

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(this refers to any Zelda, I'm just using this one cuz I like the art)










This was bottom paged. NOTICE IT >:C

 >posts Anya and not Sam
I was thinking of posting both but I figured one sufficed since it's just turtles. Besies, Sam does a better job as Chloe in Uncharted, and Noelle is obsessed with Sam so no thanks.

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Okay well I have some pictures of female leads (or supporting lead, whatever) that don't rely on fanservice, just because I said I would. So here ya go (it's quite a bit, so sorry)

Spoiler




(this refers to any Zelda, I'm just using this one cuz I like the art)










This was bottom paged. NOTICE IT >:C

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Quiet can go burn in hell. They did a fanservice character in MGS3 in the name of Eva, and they actually had a reason behind it and she had a strong character. Her fanservice was what she used as the typical spy thing, but it didn't define her character entirely.

Quiet is literally just a walking T&A show for no reason other than "she needs sun", BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SAME REASON IN MGS3 AND IT WAS AN OLD MAN IN A GHILLIE SUIT!

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Okay well I have some pictures of female leads just because I said I would. So here ya go (it's quite a bit, so sorry)

Spoiler




(this refers to any Zelda, I'm just using this one cuz I like the art)











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I'm pretty sure they always had a character going for her when they rebooted it. Not looks.
this one isn't nearly as bad, but it's also snowing out
Come on, Verb. If you played it, you'd realize that no, her character is actually pretty damn well done.

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She's wearing a tank top

That's not exactly bad is it? If there is ANY cleavage showing, it's bad?
those are not the only two variables

bust size is another issue i see
i'm sure the game has breast physics, too, but i could be wrong
the vaguely seductive look in her eyes

being well-endowed isn't inherently bad, but they're obviously accentuated in ways i have trouble defining, because i'm not really an expert on aesthetics

then i look at alyx, and she doesn't really have any glaring issues that i can see
It doesn't have breast physics, and there is nothing "seductive" in that game she gives at all, seeing as she's always getting stabbed and shot at. In fact the first hour of that game is basically "how many ways can Lara get fucked up?"

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What would make it "fully there" then? I'm curious.

He simply wants there to be a good reason for her to look like that. And there never is a good reason.

I mean, a tank top is better than a bikini, but a t-shirt is better still and would fit perfectly fine with Lara specifically.


I'm pretty sure they always had a character going for her when they rebooted it. Not looks.

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Wait, no that was wrong. OKAY POINT IS

just because some skin may be showing, that doesn't always mean it's suddenly making the character shallow. Or if a woman has big breasts. A thing that may shock some people (brace yourself), is that there are women out there

who actually have big breasts

I know, crazy right? If women should all care you like you say, how are they supposed to feel when people suddenly condemn a character because of her bust size?
lara's redesign is a step in the right direction, but it's not fully there yet
What would make it "fully there" then? I'm curious.
I'm guessing this



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That's a joke, Verb. Relax.

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Wait, no that was wrong. OKAY POINT IS

just because some skin may be showing, that doesn't always mean it's suddenly making the character shallow. Or if a woman has big breasts. A thing that may shock some people (brace yourself), is that there are women out there

who actually have big breasts

I know, crazy right? If women should all care you like you say, how are they supposed to feel when people suddenly condemn a character because of her bust size?
lara's redesign is a step in the right direction, but it's not fully there yet

we don't have to condemn characters that almost make it--but we have to make it clear that it's not good enough

i do, anyway
She's wearing a tank top

That's not exactly bad is it? If there is ANY cleavage showing, it's bad?

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We can


Thing is, all shallow characters rely on fanservice, but not all fanservice relies on shallow girls

did that make any sense? I think yes, but paranoid no
lara croft is a really bad example

alyx is one

i want, like, five hundred thousand more
The new Lara Croft is one that doesn't just rely on tits. That's why I used her. If you want me to get you more examples, I can.

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Wait, no that was wrong. OKAY POINT IS

just because some skin may be showing, that doesn't always mean it's suddenly making the character shallow. Or if a woman has big breasts. A thing that may shock some people (brace yourself), is that there are women out there

who actually have big breasts

I know, crazy right? If women should all care you like you say, how are they supposed to feel when people suddenly condemn a character because of her bust size?

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Still one of the more skimpy looking Final Fantasy characters who's actual personality and character overcomes anything her appearance may show.
why can't we just have a female character who is strong WITHOUT having a fanservice-y design

for once
We can

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Thing is, all shallow characters rely on fanservice, but not all fanservice relies on shallow girls

did that make any sense? I think yes, but paranoid no

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though they do tone her down in sub-sequential games, but whatever shut up

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Still one of the more skimpy looking Final Fantasy characters who's actual personality and character overcomes anything her appearance may show.

Proof that not all girls with massive breasts or short clothing = sluts or mindless fanservice


I keep using this example, I know.

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Serious / Re: Republican Congress shows off $1.1 Trillion Spending Bill
« on: December 16, 2015, 05:40:32 PM »
What happened to being fiscally conservative? I think Rand Paul is the only candidate who's championing that.

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Serious / Re: Republican debate tonight (8:30 EST)
« on: December 16, 2015, 05:29:59 PM »
when it comes to American presidents, it's a choice between the shiniest of two turds.
When it comes to democracy.
Fair enough, though there have obviously been good presidents.

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Gaming / Re: GOTY 2016
« on: December 16, 2015, 03:32:40 PM »
reminder

ONLY IN JAPAN
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Feminists: 1
Misogynists: 0
But the Supreme Court in Japan just upheld the law that when married, women have to change their surnames
Misogynists (in Japan): 2
Feminists: 1
Verbatims rage: unquantifiable
I honestly do think forcing the change is rather stupid. I get however that the family name is a much bigger thin in Asian culture than in most others, so I can't just say "oh well it's the same", because it isn't.

Still, just because it'd allow women to the option to change it, that doesn't mean all will.

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Serious / Re: Republican debate tonight (8:30 EST)
« on: December 16, 2015, 03:29:06 PM »
At this point I am genuinely worried about your country.
Why? None of these people stand a chance.

Hilary was always going to win.
That's still quite worrying.
I don't like Hilary, but I don't know about worrying.

What do you mean specifically?
I don't really care much about American politics at this point, but she hardly seems like an amazing candidate. Known lies, many corporate ties, swinging on the issues... It doesn't help that she comes across kind of like a bitch. I realize that this applies to most candidates and that she's still better than most, but that really doesn't say much.
You're right, but really when it comes to American presidents, it's a choice between the shiniest of two turds. Hillary I think is the better choice out of an overall shit show.

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Gaming / Re: GOTY 2016
« on: December 16, 2015, 03:24:42 PM »
reminder

ONLY IN JAPAN
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L
Y

I
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J
A
P
A
N

Feminists: 1
Misogynists: 0
But the Supreme Court in Japan just upheld the law that when married, women have to change their surnames

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Gaming / Re: Battlefield 4: Legacy Operations is out
« on: December 16, 2015, 11:38:46 AM »
Noshar Canals? Good times in that map for BF3 lol.

I need to re-download this

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Serious / Re: Republican debate tonight (8:30 EST)
« on: December 16, 2015, 11:37:13 AM »
At this point I am genuinely worried about your country.
Why? None of these people stand a chance.

Hilary was always going to win.
That's still quite worrying.
Meh

she's not ideal, but she is far more sane I would think on most issue than any of the Republican candidates minus Kasich and Bush.

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The Flood / Re: Is East U.S enjoying this absurdly warm Winter
« on: December 16, 2015, 04:09:12 AM »
It sucks

It's one week before christmas and I can walk around naked outside and not feel a nip anywhere on me

THE HELL IS THIS
oh my
It upsets me. It's hard to get in the Christmas spirit when I can go out for a walk in a thin breezy summer t-shirt and shorts.

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