It is odd, isn't it? If Romney stayed true to what he believed and didn't feel he had to go further right to please his base, I think he'd have easily won.

It saw him flip flopping between who he really was and what the base wanted him to be.

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Quote from: Flee on January 14, 2016, 12:15:32 PM

Oh shit, I just thought of something. Verb, there is a certain PVP covenant (think of it as a kind of guild) called the Darkmoon Covenant. It allows you to invade people and fight them in their world. The interesting part about it is that it doesn't allow you to invade just anyone, as it only pairs you up with "sinners". These are people who have committed grave sins in the game by, most importantly, invading others and being indicted for doing so. It's basically the covenant of the righteous that sets out to kill the "assholes" who invade and kill others. I doubt this is all still very active, but it might be a way for you to pvp a little without feeling bad about it, as you don't put yourself at risk and only fight people who have sinned and attacked innocents before.

Huh, cool. Thanks for telling me.

I mean, two wrongs don't make a right, but I appreciate the sentiment.

In Dark Souls 2 there is a covenant called the Way of the Blue, that works similar to the one Flee described. See in the very beginning of the game you get a ring that can call to others for help if you get invaded, which is basically just re-assurance and all that.

The ones who invade, the WoTB, are a faction that is basically a "guardian" to helpless players. When invaded, if you have the ring equipped, you get summoned to a world to help them, and you appear obviously Blue. It feels nice. Problem is due to PS3 load times (I haven't tried it on SoFT (which is basically an HD GOTY version with additional features and faster load times on PS4/PC), by the time you popped up they died. Now though you don't.

The same faction that Flee was talking about also exists in DS2, and I would invade people (with a blue orb. Invading "sinners") and say some witty line via messaging, but I forget the catchphrase I used.

Cool thing about DS2 is there are PvP arena's for both blue/red players, so it's not always random. It was added in the DLC of Dark Souls 1, but obviously you had to pay and not everyone did and by the time I played on 360, player traffic was so low that no one was on it. It's quite popular though on DS2, and always a fun way to play with different builds.

What even is final fantasy

All I know is that there are too many and they're shit

Maybe do your research before you come off sounding stupid.

> Gym today
> Want a water bottle
> Look for a bit and then find some pink one. Eh
>
> Spin it around and it says "Dirty Girl" on it

Oh, suddenly I think I'm okay without a water bottle.

I don't know why most FF games have to invent some random words for races but make all look like humans with some distinctive feature like horns or tails.

Just call them by what they are; dragon/cat/midget people.

Because it's a fantasy game and that would be boring. That's just fantasy in general.

Like I said, I'll tear it apart later.

Also, this sounds very arrogant, but it may just be the wording you used.

Anyway, we may never see eye to eye on it, but Flee brought up a good point when he said "You may not like it, but that doesn't make it objectively bad game design."

Quote from: Flee on January 14, 2016, 03:15:05 AM

I'll respond to this later, but just know a great deal of my trepidation over this game has pretty much vanished, because I just now learned from Batch that it's possible to play offline while still being human, as you stated (I was under the impression that you were stuck as Hollow until you went online--which would have been fucking stupid).

That's a good thing--I only wish that it functioned like Bloodborne does, where it asks you within the game itself.

Even if you loved PvP like I did, Bloodborne isn't that fantastic with it. Even with enemy human NPC's it just feels like a bunch of jumping and flailing around. The only "skill" would be to time your shots to counter the, but that's it. The game certainly captures the atmosphere, but it's easily the least interesting of the Souls games I've played in terms of story, characters, and replayability.

Quote from: Batch on January 14, 2016, 02:25:36 AM

Or you could just......play the game offline, play as a human

I didn't know this was an option. I thought playing offline and going Hollow were one in the same.

So what's the point of going Hollow if you can just go offline to avoid player invasions?

I thought I told you this. No, I know I did. But I got lost in this stupid argument of consent vs mechanics.

I'm just forgetting everything :/

Let's be honest, Verb not reviewing PvP isn't much of a loss, considering most PvP focus is towards the end game when you have your build done.

All right--minor setback. Won't be able to play tonight, but I'll surely be able to get rolling tomorrow. Sorry.

You build up my hopes just to RIP THEM APART

The new year just started 13 days ago...

Alright, enough talk on the multiplayer aspect. We're really getting off topic and just filling this thread with shitty posts. I'd rather it be more streamlined to see what Verbs impressions are.

Well, first you told me I could play the whole game Hollow, and now you just told me that I'm going to have trouble beating the game if I don't ever go human. So it can't have been that subtle. I mean, not being able to beat the game because of it seems like a pretty big flashing red caveat to me.

You don't have to, but only using 5 estus in long runs is going to be nigh impossible for someone who's going first time through. It is subtle how the mechanic works, because I completely forgot how you even upgraded bonfires in DS1, seeing as how DS2, and Bloodborne do two completely different things. It's a game I've not played in a long time, so sorry?

Quote from: N'awoo on January 13, 2016, 06:31:53 PM

i think it tells you if you get invaded, like i said, youll be playing in NG, no one, to my knowledge, would even invade at your level because its simply not worth it or no fun. invading is also a bit complex, needing some requirements and whatnot.

I don't want it to just "tell" me if I get invaded. I want to be able to boot them the fuck out if I don't WANT to get invaded.

Because absolutely nobody has permission to invade me.

If you want to duel me, message me and ask me first. That's how it should work.

The fact that it doesn't work like that is unacceptable, so yeah, full Hollow for me.

It is consent since you start off as a hollow and are offered to go human at the risk/reward of a few benefits. Otherwise you can stay hollow, exactly how you start the game. It honestly doesn't matter in the end. Even if you were human, odds are you would very rarely get invaded.