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Serious / Re: How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 25, 2016, 12:24:17 PM »
I don't think riots = inability to assimilate, and I'm not sure what you mean by previously invaded. You mean the Native Americans being killed?

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Serious / Re: How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 24, 2016, 08:54:14 PM »
We get immigrants, not "refugees".
This has been an issue in Europe for a while, not just this sudden refugee surge.

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The Flood / Re: sad ben affleck
« on: March 24, 2016, 08:39:24 PM »
Awww poor Ben

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Serious / Re: Fuck off
« on: March 24, 2016, 07:55:53 PM »
Be srs

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Serious / Re: North Carolina bars anti-discriminatory ordinances.
« on: March 24, 2016, 05:58:19 PM »
It'll be struck down in federal court anyway

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Serious / Re: North Carolina bars anti-discriminatory ordinances.
« on: March 24, 2016, 05:10:33 PM »
I'm rather disappointed North Carolina beat South Carolina in this race. A blow to the strongest of Confederate States.

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Serious / Re: How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 24, 2016, 01:15:30 PM »
Also, you should all reconsider the Rome comparisons I've made in the past.

Pax Americana, baby.
America is the new Rome is my meme thank you very much.

But yeah, there have been a handful of Pax *insert here*. Pax Britannia, Pax Mongolica, Pax Europaea. It's more of a general and loose term at this point. I'd have said Pax American was more a thing after the Cold War ended, and up until 9/11.

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Serious / Re: How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 24, 2016, 12:16:57 PM »
It's at least partly to do with U.S. culture. Europeans are nice to immigrants in a condescending way; most of us, especially the political establishment and the media, see them fundamentally different and--basically--victims who need help.

You can be an American no matter your motherland or race. America has never been a particularly homogenous nation.
That's a pretty good point.

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Serious / Re: I do not understand how people support Trump
« on: March 24, 2016, 12:15:52 PM »
daily reminder
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/338429342646423553
I know he's meming that, but it's not helping his cause on where he stands on it

Baby Boomers are ruining the world

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The Flood / Re: Polyamorous relationships are fucking retarded
« on: March 24, 2016, 10:56:45 AM »
Polyamory is absolutely a-okay with me. It's not cheating if everyone involved knows and doesn't give a shit.

Monogamy is a dated concept rooted in religion, and I see no point in maintaining traditions for the sake of tradition.
Really? That... really surprises me that you hold that viewpoint on it. Huh.
Why?

I mean, yeah, I've spoken out against people who sleep around, but I mean, there's a difference. There's a difference between having multiple romantic partners, and having too much sex with too many people. One is about having romantic relationships with multiple individuals, which is fine--and the other is about excess. Which isn't fine. To me.
I see. I suppose I associated one with the other when you talked about too much sex.

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Serious / Re: How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 24, 2016, 10:28:08 AM »
Nationalism maybe? One thing I've noticed about immigrants in the US is that can get behind the cause of America. You get people of all different colours and backgrounds representing and supporting one country and one flag, I don't sense that in European countries.

One flag to rule them all.
I think it's because the US is made up of a shit ton of diverse people too from all sorts of countries. That might help it, along with America having this connotation of a better opportunity if you come over. If you read about the history of the US in the early 1900's, it really starts to sprout up and you see the American Dream thing being formed.

And if you're coming in from the Atlantic, seeing the Statue of Liberty as you come in by boat is a huge message of the whole freedom and opportunity message too if you ask me.

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The Flood / Re: Polyamorous relationships are fucking retarded
« on: March 24, 2016, 10:25:27 AM »
Polyamory is absolutely a-okay with me. It's not cheating if everyone involved knows and doesn't give a shit.

Monogamy is a dated concept rooted in religion, and I see no point in maintaining traditions for the sake of tradition.
Really? That... really surprises me that you hold that viewpoint on it. Huh.

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Serious / Re: How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:49:52 AM »
I read an interesting article. Here's an excerpt.
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Compared with Europe, the U.S. attracts more immigrants who share the dominant faith. (Imagine if Mexicans built mosques.) An economy that, until recently, had lots of entry-level jobs has made it easier for immigrants to find work. American schools generally provide students second chances, while Europeans are more likely to leave stragglers on vocational tracks. The U.S. also had Martin Luther King Jr.—the civil-rights movement, cresting just before the current mass migration started, bequeathed a robust apparatus for promoting opportunity. And American culture sells, in all its tawdriness and splendor. In Europe, the children of immigrants sometimes cling to the Old Country more than their parents do: sons import brides. In the U.S., the bigger danger is assimilating too fast: children get fat eating french fries and watching TV.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/11/assimilation-nation/309518/

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The Flood / Re: Polyamorous relationships are fucking retarded
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:47:09 AM »
Sounds like you need to get something off your chest

did your girlfriend cheat on you :^(?

P.S. you're very aggressive in your posting for no reason

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Serious / How is the US so effective at assimilating immigrants?
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:44:00 AM »
So due to the recent tragic event, it raised the concerns and questions of Europe's increasing glaring issue at the failure to assimilate its immigrants into their culture/ways of thinking. If you're for or against that, I dunno, but that's beside the point.

My point is, how is the US so effective at it. The Muslim population (and others in general) in the US has been shown time and time again to be culturally assimilated into the US lifestyle, and way of thinking. Why is that? What is the driving factor that does such a thing? Is it the American Dream? Many immigrants still clearly believe in that, though the domestic population would probably argue otherwise at this point.

Anyone have any accurate guesses or knowledge they'd like to share? I just find it really interesting is all, so if I made a mistake, apologies.

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Serious / Re: Why people hate refugees
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:41:06 AM »
Not to mention that the US is extremely efficient at assimilating migrants.
God bless the USA

The American dream is alive to immigrants, even though it's dead to all of us.

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Serious / Re: Why people hate refugees
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:05:31 AM »
Stop the blanket statements everybody~

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Serious / Re: What Ancient Languages Sounded Like
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:04:54 AM »
Old English is definitely a weird one

Middle Chinese sounds more pleasing than modern

Middle Japanese sounds like the Devil had an offspring

Latin sounds lovely
My mother can recite the opening verses of Beowulf in old english

Shit's weird sounding
Your mother sounds like an attractive woman.

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Serious / Re: I do not understand how people support Trump
« on: March 24, 2016, 07:26:54 AM »
The difference here is that immigrants normally integrate themselves into the country, but as Britain has shown, Muslims form ghettos and isolate themselves when they have large enough numbers; I don't have a right to say what is or isn't American but being opposed to having Muslims create a 'country' within your country isn't wrong.

If someone other than Trump was doing something about that then I'm not aware of it; what I know is that now this issue is on the table and potentially solvable with Trump, that's what works.

Of course it's wrong to have communities isolate themselves in another nation entirely. Europe has shown it has trouble assimilating immigrants into their own values.

But America isn't Europe. America easily assimilates such people, and the demographic has shown our Muslims come from an assortment of countries, where as in Europe, specific nationalities tend to go to one country or another.

Muslims in America are absolutely no problem, see themselves as American first, and contribute a lot to our society, such as doctors and business owners. If Trump was running for office in Europe, maybe his words would have more value.

Also when I say un-American, I mean rejecting immigration as a whole (considering our country is nothing BUT immigrants since we slaughtered all the natives), and labeling one religion is completely and thus, treating them as second class citizens.

Intolerance, xenophobia, and religious persecution/unfair treatment, have no place in the United States. Maybe in China.

Edit: As for the libbie thing, no big deal. I just got done dealing with someone spewing it left and right to try and make points and it was getting grating to hear.

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Serious / Re: What Ancient Languages Sounded Like
« on: March 24, 2016, 07:21:48 AM »
Old English is definitely a weird one

Middle Chinese sounds more pleasing than modern

Middle Japanese sounds like the Devil had an offspring

Latin sounds lovely



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Serious / Re: Terrorist attack in Brussels, 26 killed 100+ injured
« on: March 24, 2016, 07:06:46 AM »
Just so you know, I'm not in disagreement with the refugee thing, and I think Islamism can fuck off and die in the hole it crawled out of.

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Serious / Re: Why people hate refugees
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:52:46 AM »
Believe me, I stay as far away from Tumblr/Reddit/whatever as you could possibly think

I just have... friends, and people in the groups I go to that constantly remind me of that crap.

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Serious / Re: Why people hate refugees
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:45:30 AM »
I think it's funny the same people who hate the white male for a supposed rape culture have nothing to say about brown men who actually partake in rape culture.
Who says they don't? Who blames the white male specifically for rape culture?

I think you made that up. I think you just made that up just now, to take some kind of impotent potshot at progressives. Yeah.
They don't. They pull no punches when criticizing the white western male, but when it comes to countries that actually have a huge rape problem with mostly women victims, you don't hear these SJW's sharpening their pitchforks.
Americans have very narrow minds
That's part of it, but it's no excuse.
Oh I know. I just find that the whole "SJW" movement and people who never shut up about it, always seem to be Americans, and as such they think their problems are the biggest problems and focus only on the area around them. When something happens far away, they tend to ignore it entirely.

And just double standards in general, but I hate that with everything.

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Serious / Re: Terrorist attack in Brussels, 26 killed 100+ injured
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:43:32 AM »
Be honest liberals, how many people have to die before you admit your fetish for non-whites is a bad thing?
About the same amount of time it takes you to realize that blacks in the US do in fact deal with different situations than whites
Could you be more specific with what you mean by situations? I'm not going to pretend that they have an equal footing with whites but I'm not sure where your trying to point that question.
I was being as vague and making a sweeping statement with my post as you were with yours

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Serious / Re: I do not understand how people support Trump
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:40:27 AM »
I agree labeling racist on everything is infuriating, believe me I do, but it's very unamerican to oppose Immigration, considering that's our entire country, and saying you're gonna ban all muslims isn't racist, it's xenophobic and asinine.

Nothing "works" about it.

And please for the love of Allah, can you please stop saying "libbie" or "liberal" every 5 seconds? It's such a buzzword and makes you sound like a pissed off redneck. Throwing labels on everything and thinking of everything as "left and right" views is insanely irritating.

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Serious / Re: Why people hate refugees
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:38:34 AM »
I think it's funny the same people who hate the white male for a supposed rape culture have nothing to say about brown men who actually partake in rape culture.
Who says they don't? Who blames the white male specifically for rape culture?

I think you made that up. I think you just made that up just now, to take some kind of impotent potshot at progressives. Yeah.
They don't. They pull no punches when criticizing the white western male, but when it comes to countries that actually have a huge rape problem with mostly women victims, you don't hear these SJW's sharpening their pitchforks.
Americans have very narrow minds

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Serious / Re: Terrorist attack in Brussels, 26 killed 100+ injured
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:36:55 AM »
This Cadenza dude is a fucking retard
He didn't used to be this iirc. He only popped back in and started throwing his Trump stuff around.

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Serious / Re: I do not understand how people support Trump
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:34:59 AM »
If your entire campaign is based off of slogans and misinformation left and right, you're doing something wrong. He's getting this attention because he knows it's a TV show for his campaign. You're right, that's how he gets attention, and with how shitty the candidates are on the right side, I guess I can't blame you for picking him.

Now Trump hasn't ever said anything racist, but he speaks in such a way that someone like you could interpret him as being close to racist, that's the plan.
"Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it."

“The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day.” (admittedly, this one is funny)

Right, not very racist. Now before you throw the libbie card at me, just know I don't think he's much of a racist. It's how he comes off and the message he gives to people who ARE in fact pretty damn openly racist.

And if "not acting presidential" is him encouraging violence at his rallies, then yeah, I don't know what you're on about. And him just insulting people left and right to make a headline is stupid, along with insulting people in "his own party" like John McCain, saying he's not a war veteran and only was because he got captured? Trump's never been in a war, so he can screw right off with that. And I don't know why you'd want to support someone who says things like this.

“The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

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Serious / Re: Terrorist attack in Brussels, 26 killed 100+ injured
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:18:30 AM »
Be honest liberals, how many people have to die before you admit your fetish for non-whites is a bad thing?
About the same amount of time it takes you to realize that blacks in the US do in fact deal with different situations than whites

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Serious / Re: I do not understand how people support Trump
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:09:40 AM »
Trump's solution gets results plain and simple.
I really can't wait to see what your opinions on Trump and his message are when he loses in the General election. Everyone outside the far right dislikes him, and Cruz isn't a better option either.

Also

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trying to be moderate and to compromise and appeal to liberal sensibilities has not worked for the right wing, it just makes us look weak and gives you an advantage,
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trying to be moderate and to compromise
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compromise
Where have you been since 2010? The reason a lot of Republican voters hate their party is them promising things and never getting them done, and not even doing something as simple as their job. Obstructionism was their main priority for a vast majority of them, and anyone who disagreed with them, they tried to hammer and kick out of office for so much as wanting to come to agreements. It's sad when the top priority of the senate majority leader was to make Obama a one term president. Not immigration reform, not healthcare reform (we'll repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better, but we'll get back to you on what we have that's better), nothing. It's literally a reap what you sow situation.

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