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« on: June 04, 2016, 01:58:12 AM »
So having the belief of "believing in an ideal, holding it close, and trying to achieve it while simultaneously recognizing that you realistically never get everything you want, but that's ok because it's the ideal itself that's beautiful" is retarded.
yes just give it up like in Heavens Feel :<>
5102
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:47:59 AM »
I still think Shirou's justification for being Archer at the end of UBW is retarded
But he never becomes Archer at the end of UBW.
Not Spirit Emiya, but he still does his whole superhero shtick
5103
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:46:47 AM »
I still think Shirou's justification for being Archer at the end of UBW is retarded. I enjoyed everything about the final battle and what not, and the ending in general. I just don't like the logic train he rides.
Or how he leaves Sakura all miserable with old man Zouken. Shinji seems more normal though.
5104
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:45:01 AM »
It literally spells it out for you right there at the end of Zero.
I forgot he said the line he looked like he saved himself. It's been way too long since I've seen Zero.
I should probably give it a re-watch.
That's a rather iconic scene... I have to wonder if you were paying attention when watching it. Hell, they even revisited it in the UBW adaptation. You know, one of the few points in the adaptation that actually surpassed the original VN.
Was more so thinking of him saving one person and making him happy. I remember the scene. I just forgot the bit where it was his justification of doing something good so he didn't go mind break elf style.
5105
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:28:21 AM »
It literally spells it out for you right there at the end of Zero.
I forgot he said the line he looked like he saved himself. It's been way too long since I've seen Zero. I should probably give it a re-watch.
5106
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:27:08 AM »
Question for you, LC. Is Mind of Steel him becoming the Archer you see in UBW? I know some that would say it's not connected at all, but it seems that it sort of goes hand in hand. Especially given the look he gives Illya before he has to leave her.
In Mind of Steel Shirou goes full Kerry and wins the war by killing his opponents under the justification that it's worth it to kill the few in order to save the many.
MoS Shirou is not counter guardian Shirou.
So literally just Batman then
5107
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:12:02 AM »
Question for you, LC. Is Mind of Steel him becoming the Archer you see in UBW? I know some that would say it's not connected at all, but it seems that it sort of goes hand in hand. Especially given the look he gives Illya before he has to leave her.
5108
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:09:48 AM »
^ going to echo this
A good VN is kind of a rarity.
5109
« on: June 04, 2016, 01:09:20 AM »
How is it anything like what Kerry did at the end of Zero? Kerry was willing to sacrifice his family and the people he loves to save the most people possible. HF Shirou is willing to sacrifice everyone else for the sake of one person. Kerry would find that mentality to be abhorrent. The Kerry route for Shirou is Mind of Steel.
Heavens Feel doesn't "fix" Shirou, it breaks him in the other direction. UBW is the only route where Shirou comes out somewhat ok mentally.
I meant at the very end. That because he saved one person, he was happy. I am well aware him becoming Archer is Kerry before that. And I'd say he came out just fine at the end of Heavens Feel. Well... after he got his new body. I will say that the normal ending or whatever where Sakura grows old waiting for him, was one of the most depressing things I've read.
5110
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:42:27 AM »
I mostly enjoyed F/SN because of the characters, the story was still good but it was the cast and their behaviors that really kept me in. Taking the main hero and turning him into something completely different is fucking stupid. It may have excellent world building compared to the other two routes but you know there's a serious problem when one of the bad ends (Mind of Steel) is better/more legitimate than either of the two "proper" endings. Because at least with MoS Shirou acts like fucking Shirou.
HF is interesting for many a reason. To dump it for that is just silly, as it does play into his character in more ways than one. Plus, it plays like a direct sequel to Fate/Zero, so that's good. The entire point of that route is to ask him if he would give up everything to save the one person he loves. It's not so black and white as you're making it. In a way, it's doing exactly what Kiritsugu did at the end, only before he became a little too dark. It's a good read. You shouldn't shut it out simply because of that reason alone. Shirou spouting his super hero stuff got annoying after a while anyway. Rin points out he's pretty much broken in UBW. Picture HF as the way of fixing him.
5111
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:39:52 AM »
You forget Ilya's route is thrown in there too. It always bothered me that UBW just completely ignored a lot of what Zero did.
I get the VN was first so it makes sense, but in terms of the anime entry, they hint at it a little in UBW (what with the grail in the opening being the shape of the one from HF), along with other things. But they don't explore it, Kiritsugu enough as well, nor Kerei.
Heavens Feel explores all of that, plus has True Assassin.
5112
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:38:11 AM »
Light Novel*
FATE ZERO Was an anime first
Oh right, those things exist
5113
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:37:09 AM »
I meant VN's in general when it came to installing and playing them, not just F/SN. I read Fate and UBW routes, I have zero interest in HF considering it take's Shirou's character and throws it out the window.
Not really. Though I really did enjoy them. First route is boring since it's an info dump, but after that it gets really good. HF is interesting for many a reason. To dump it for that is just silly, as it does play into his character in more ways than one. Plus, it plays like a direct sequel to Fate/Zero, so that's good. I'd say read it, considering the movies are coming soon. You're missing a lot of good characters, and arguably one of the most intense end games I've read. I honestly hope the movies nail it, because it's going to be hard.
5114
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:36:05 AM »
FATE ZERO
Was an anime first
5115
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:34:55 AM »
Cant wait until she gets her ass kicked in November.
You dems made the biggest mistake ever running her instead of Bernie.
If she does win, how will you react? I'm just curious since you seem so sure he's gonna win.
5116
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:32:42 AM »
Only one I've read so far is F/SN, they're kind of a pain in the ass to install.
Not really. Though I really did enjoy them. First route is boring since it's an info dump, but after that it gets really good.
5117
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:19:24 AM »
If it's actually done right, I absolutely see no problem with it. Voice acting, music, choices, engaging, etc. It's nothing too bad.
However with every form of media, there is a dark side to it.
5118
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:17:19 AM »
In other news, people will believe anything
5119
« on: June 04, 2016, 12:09:26 AM »
Yeah holy shit
5120
« on: June 03, 2016, 06:45:47 PM »
i enjoy traps
5121
« on: June 03, 2016, 02:54:24 PM »
Trump doesn't wanna be president anyway
I'm just waiting on him to hate blacks
5122
« on: June 03, 2016, 02:49:32 PM »
Went off on his own like always
wish he had his dog again
5123
« on: June 03, 2016, 10:56:18 AM »
Huh, I was just reading about them again yesterday too completely unrelated to this. That's weird.
5124
« on: June 03, 2016, 10:18:57 AM »
Freefonix
Backwards google search gave me that answer in less than 1 sec.
5125
« on: June 03, 2016, 10:07:05 AM »
Stop smoking so much
What?
5126
« on: June 03, 2016, 02:27:10 AM »
I'm actually making some tea I forgot I bought while shopping. My mother said it's supposed to be really good.
That reminds me. I should get some tea.
Go get some tea!
5127
« on: June 03, 2016, 02:24:39 AM »
I'm actually making some tea I forgot I bought while shopping. My mother said it's supposed to be really good.
5128
« on: June 03, 2016, 02:15:33 AM »
British consume 60 billion cups per year, according to the Tea and Infusions Organisation. That’s more than 900 cups a year for every man, woman and child in Great Britain Stop drinking so much
5129
« on: June 02, 2016, 11:35:15 PM »
That's completely fine, it's silly to force yourself to watch more than a season of something if you're not enjoying it
That goes for anything
This. I give it about 4 or 5 eps.
5130
« on: June 02, 2016, 04:57:41 PM »
How is Columbia #3 in the world in this months FIFA ranking? Howwww?
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