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3781
« on: November 21, 2015, 01:19:07 PM »
^This Gue'la
It's Gue'vesa faggot.
You'd be the Gue'la.
Forgive me for not speaking moon-monkey fluently
no
Enjoy your mind being controlled by alien pheremones.
thats propaganda
Why does every thread you post in become about Warhammer?
This thread was doing warhammer shit before I even posted.
3782
« on: November 21, 2015, 01:16:34 PM »
^This Gue'la
It's Gue'vesa faggot.
You'd be the Gue'la.
Forgive me for not speaking moon-monkey fluently
no
Enjoy your mind being controlled by alien pheremones.
thats propaganda
3783
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:59:12 PM »
^This Gue'la
It's Gue'vesa faggot.
You'd be the Gue'la.
Forgive me for not speaking moon-monkey fluently
no
3784
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:57:01 PM »
^This Gue'la
It's Gue'vesa faggot. You'd be the Gue'la.
3785
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:20:46 PM »
In the Tau Empire you're allowed to wear santa hats whenever you want. Even if it makes you look like a mong because it isn't December yet.
3786
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:12:13 PM »
I forget Preston is a companion.
3787
« on: November 21, 2015, 02:08:47 AM »
Who is Kinder and why was he banned?
I joined this year
Kinder is a dude who use to get seriously unhinged in serious whenever someone posted an opinion that differed from his. He ended up doxxing 3 people and was perma'd as a result.
3788
« on: November 21, 2015, 01:43:11 AM »
hopefully they don't charge people for it
3789
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:31:55 AM »
See this is why i couldnt be bothered. There just is no reasoning with you.
Thanks for the laugh anyway.
You never attempted to reason. You just acted like some pretentious prick looking down on the plebeians like you knew better than them and then refused to discuss when someone tried to take you to task over it.
Theres no point when you think your opinion is a fact
It's not my opinion though. You want my opinion on the animations? I think the quality of the animations really aren't that big of a deal. They do the job and get things done in a manner that isn't 100% stupid and most of the time I'm too busy with other things in the game to notice them other than the horrendous lip sync that appears in every conversation. However I also recognize the fact that these shoddy animations are woefully under par for a AAA game in 2015. They do not meet the standards set by the average 2015 game and Bethesda sincerely needs to up their game on the animation quality. This has been a common criticism towards them for almost 15 years and they've refused to improve in any sort of meaningful manner.
3790
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:18:04 AM »
See this is why i couldnt be bothered. There just is no reasoning with you.
Thanks for the laugh anyway.
You never attempted to reason. You just acted like some pretentious prick looking down on the plebeians like you knew better than them and then refused to discuss when someone tried to take you to task over it.
3791
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:13:33 AM »
Animations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'
The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.
Like your opinion.
nice refutation
Well clearly there's no point. Your like your Obama haters, your opinion is fact, and that's that.
What's the point in arguing with you? All you do is bring up AAA standards that don't exist.
It's a game, play it or don't. Bitching won't get you anywhere.
It's not my opinion, standards for games in 2015 do exist and if a game in 2015 recycles content from a last gen title and makes no effort to improve then it deserves to be called out on it.
You can enjoy a game fully, recognize that it has flaws , and talk about them freely. Shutting down discussion does nothing for you. It only encloses you in an echo chamber where differing opinions aren't welcome.
Instead of denying that a very real problem exists you should be open to discussing it and the fact that it really needs to be addressed/fixed in future installments.
Look, I get you have an "i'm always right" complex. Try praising a game for what it does right rather than bitching about what is does wrong. We're not taking about ME3 here. I'm done talking about this with you. Fallout 4 is an improvement regardless of some shortcomings, end of story.
This has nothing to do with my opinion. This is about facts. This is a thread about what Fallout 4 did wrong, if you want to start a thread about what it did right I'd be happy to discuss that too.
3792
« on: November 20, 2015, 11:37:01 PM »
Animations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'
The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.
Like your opinion.
nice refutation
Well clearly there's no point. Your like your Obama haters, your opinion is fact, and that's that.
What's the point in arguing with you? All you do is bring up AAA standards that don't exist.
It's a game, play it or don't. Bitching won't get you anywhere.
It's not my opinion, standards for games in 2015 do exist and if a game in 2015 recycles content from a last gen title and makes no effort to improve then it deserves to be called out on it. You can enjoy a game fully, recognize that it has flaws , and talk about them freely. Shutting down discussion does nothing for you. It only encloses you in an echo chamber where differing opinions aren't welcome. Instead of denying that a very real problem exists you should be open to discussing it and the fact that it really needs to be addressed/fixed in future installments.
3793
« on: November 20, 2015, 11:20:28 PM »
Animations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.'
The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit.
Like your opinion.
nice refutation
3794
« on: November 20, 2015, 11:16:17 PM »
Animations being 10 years old aren't my opinions. They're outdated and don't meet the standards set by modern games.' The "if you don't like it why don't you do better" comeback has always been shit. Consumer reviews? You mean those things that are either 0's or 10's and very seldom offer anything of worth?
3795
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:39:37 PM »
It's not about me. It's about having animations that are up to par with a modern AAA game. Bethesda is notoriously bad at animations and character models, this isn't an opinion this is just fact. I'm perfectly happy with both Battlefront and Fallout 4 despite being able to point out the problems with both. Who are you to tell me what I do and do not enjoy? What people find enjoyable is completely subjective. The quality of a product however isn't.
3796
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:30:55 PM »
It's funny how people can accept Battlefront as perfectly fine game, but then bitch about Fallout.
I can bitch about both and still find them fun.
What does that make me?
Annoying and unappreciative. You don't need to bitch about anything and just be happy that you have it.
You can be perfectly happy about something and recognize that it has flaws.
3797
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:29:11 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Wow...whatever you say
To use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.
Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.
Where is the middle ground?
stop
Don't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.
I wasnt even going to, im just here to laugh at your stupidity
Because people saying that Bethesda is terrible in the animation department is stupidity.
Nope. But when you say someone is outright wrong with saying theyre fine with the animations, its stupid.
Your opinion doesnt make you right. Geez
He said the animations are perfectly fine, in other words, passable. The animations aren't passable for a modern AAA game. They're downright awful and it's not my opinion.
3798
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:22:19 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Wow...whatever you say
To use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.
Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.
Where is the middle ground?
stop
Don't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.
I wasnt even going to, im just here to laugh at your stupidity
Because people saying that Bethesda is terrible in the animation department is stupidity.
3799
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:21:40 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Wow...whatever you say
To use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.
Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.
Where is the middle ground?
The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.
See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.
that's not a middle ground, that's being patronizing to the other side that firmly believes without a doubt that obama is an anit-white muslim that seeks to commit a white genocide
Obama's polcies have nothing in common with being muslim or wanting to commit a white genocide, so telling them that they're right to believe that he is one does nothing more than pander to them in an effort to spare their feelings.
That's not compromise. That's you being scared to tell them the truth and treating them like they're mislead children. And treating someone like they're a mislead child is just insulting.
First of all, in no way did I say that these peope were right. They can believe it if they want. Obama's side just needs to prove that he isn't a muslim and earn their trust, and the other, even though they believe it, need to at least have an open mind. Middle ground.
If you're in no way saying that these people are right then you're not reaching a middle ground with them. A middle ground is a compromise between both parties, if you're being patronizing and essentially referring to them as misinformed children you aren't exchanging in a give and take. The fact that Obama has done nothing indicate that he's a Muslim also negates the the claim that he needs to prove himself not to be one. And what does and what does any of this even have to do with Fallout? Stop trying to pull a Verb by being extreme.
I don't know. Why did Oss try to take a potshot at people having a conversation? Why did you take up the banner when he decided to leave it alone when confronted on doing so? You are correct in the assertion that we're getting off topic though so we can take this to PMs if you'd like.
3800
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:07:02 PM »
It's funny how people can accept Battlefront as perfectly fine game, but then bitch about Fallout.
I can bitch about both and still find them fun. What does that make me?
3801
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:06:03 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Wow...whatever you say
To use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.
Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.
Where is the middle ground?
The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.
See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.
that's not a middle ground, that's being patronizing to the other side that firmly believes without a doubt that obama is an anit-white muslim that seeks to commit a white genocide Obama's polcies have nothing in common with being muslim or wanting to commit a white genocide, so telling them that they're right to believe that he is one does nothing more than pander to them in an effort to spare their feelings. That's not compromise. That's you being scared to tell them the truth and treating them like they're mislead children. And treating someone like they're a mislead child is just insulting.
3802
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:48:51 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Wow...whatever you say
To use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.
Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.
Where is the middle ground?
stop
Don't try and start something if you don't intend to see it through.
3803
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Wow...whatever you say
To use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across. Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet. Where is the middle ground?
3804
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PM »
No middle ground right?
lol
The middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
3805
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:05:32 PM »
Personally I believe the major powers do not give a duck about Isis and are just using them as an excuse to further their political cause in the Syrian/Iraq theatre. This war can change the political climate of the middle east for the next century.
Russia gives a duck about Islamic extremists that close to their border. They already have their hands full with Chechnya. A lot of the middle east hates Russia just as much as they hate the US, maybe even more.
3806
« on: November 20, 2015, 08:52:59 PM »
I personally haven't played it, but from what I understand it suffers from the same issue as Titanfall in that it's very barebones and lacks content.
If 9 mp modes, 3 co-op modes, and a little over a dozen maps is lacking in content.
It is.
Especially when the game from 10 years ago had more and better content. Modes, maps, and co-op in this game are dreadful as well.
lolwut
Battlefront 2 had 18 maps at launch. That's 3 more than the reboot and all of the ones that weren't battlefront one remakes were pretty shit. Battlefront 2 had 7 mp game modes as opposed to the reboots 9. GC was just a dressed up instant action playlist, same with the "campaign".
If we want to start talking effective game modes Battlefront really only had one, conquest. In the reboot you can at least get a match in every game mode. Granted this is at launch though so it's possible that it may be whittled down to 3 as time goes on. However this is still 3x more game modes than battlefront 1 and 2.
I should also add that the first map pack is free and adds another 3 maps to the game so that'll bring it on par with 2 for map count.
Saying lolwut doesn't make you right. This game has no diversity. Say what you want about galactic conquest and campaign, but people loved them, and that's why they are mad its gone. Same with space battles and the clone wars era.
Also like I said, the content that IS in this game isn't even good. Maps are horrible, and its pathetic that they limited 13 maps to only 4 planets; meaning less variety. Ultimately, the design choice was made to create more opportunity for dlc, and that sucks. There is no need to have maps dedicated to the ice caves from hoth, or the droid shit from tatooine. So even if you aren't wrong in saying that the game has enough content (which I definitely don't think it does), the game still is severely lacking in variety. Where is jabba's pallace? Naboo? Tantive IV? Dagobah? Space battles?
Of course saying lolwut doesn't make me right. That's why I supported it with facts.
So 9 different game modes is lacking in variety? This isn't halo 5 where all but two are a variant of slayer. This isn't Battlefront 2 where 3 of the 7 game modes were different versions of CTF.
>no need to have a dedicated map to the ice caves in hoth or the smugglers den
>wants a dedicated map for jabbas apartment and cramped as shit ship IV
uwotm8
The maps you listed also suck ass other than Dagobah.
Dogfight is better than spacebattles. I've had more fun playing that than I ever did playing ship boarding battles.
The 9 game modes dont offer anything exciting or diverse though. Most of them do boil down into tdm (or a slight variant) and the ones that don't (droid run) are just plain garbage.
And your argument that Jabba's palace and Tantive 4 suck is wrong when a) those areas both have much more meaning to the movies than ice caves/smugglers den and b) people loved playing on them. Besides, what I listed were just a few examples. Planets (environments) battlefront 2 has: 18 Planets reboot has: 4
Can you not see how that is a problem? Whether or not you enjoyed those maps is irrelevant, they add more "star wars" to the game, and they add more variety. Game mode number is also irrelevant when they suck and you are still playing in the same spaces.
So let me get this straight. You want maps that take place in "iconic" locations over maps that play well? Well that's just a matter of personal preference then. I kinda prefer my multiplayer maps to lend themselves to a good mp experience instead of a hallway clusterfuck.
Yeah, the lack of variety in locations is a bit disappointing. However the argument here is that the reboot "doesn't have enough content". I've demonstrated that it has about the same amount of content as the previous title. A few less maps, but a few more game modes. After the first DLC (which is free) it'll have more content than its predecessor.
game type break down Supremacy - tug of war/conquest hybrid that relies on the capture of territories to win
walker assault - both sides simultaneously attack and defend various points throughout the map. Objectives are the main priority however the ability to just straight up outkill your opponent can have a major effect on how this plays out.
Droid Run - moving territories from halo really
Blast - TDM
Dog Fight - TDM in the air with a heavy emphasis on protecting/destroying the enemies vip shuttle when it appears for a big chunk of bonus points
Cargo - CTF
Drop Zone - TDM with some sort of pseudo-territories elements thrown in
Hero Hunt - Basically juggernaut from Halo
Hero Battle - Basically VIP from Halo, but with VIPs that can and want to fight instead of run away and hide in the corner
Battlefront 2 had
Conquest - self explanatory Battlefield clone
Hunt - gimmick mode that nobody played because it was native species that serve as a minor annoyance in 90% of the maps vs actual soldiers
1 flag CTF
2 Flag CTF
Space Assault - A handfull of people get to fly around in ships while everyone else plays corridor shooter 2005
Assault - A fun gimick mode where everyone is one of the stupidly overpowered hero units
Space 1 flag CTF - CTF but in space
The maps should take iconic locations, AND make balanced maps out of them. Battlefront 2 didn't have incredible map balance, but they were in iconic locations, which made them fun and exciting. The reboot accomplishes neither of those. It takes fragments of planets we've seen in the movies (with the exception of sullust) and then makes mediocre maps out of them. A lot the maps are unbalanced, and the rest are just flat out boring. Not a single map stands out like hoth or endor did in 2. It's just a whole lot of meh.
Walker assault on Endor is really the only map i'd say is unbalanced. However walker assault on Hoth does have super shitty spawns for phase 2. Every other map is fine balance wise.
Iconic locations don't mean shit if the maps are just downright frustrating to play due to a myriad of poor design decisions. Hoth was the one of those two that stood out and it was a Battlefront 1 map. Endor was piss and unremarkable.
It seems you find iconic locations to be "fun and exciting" while I find well designed maps to be "fun and exciting" though so that's where we reach an impasse.
Well I would argue that none of the battlefront 2 maps were poorly designed to the point of causing frustration, and if that's the case then I wonder why you bought a battlefront game in the first place.
I'll agree to disagree that the reboot has good maps. Even if they are balanced, they aren't memorable or even fun to play in any way.
Because it was Star Wars and despite all of the issues the second game had I still had fun with it.
3807
« on: November 20, 2015, 08:46:42 PM »
Why bring China into the conflict? This more or less might confirm that ISIS is just a tool for western powers political intrigues rather than just a loose pack of rabid dogs.
wut
>globalresearch.ca
Come on man, you're taking a website that peddles NWO conspiracies as fact seriously?
I don't believe in NWO or really any conspiracy. But governments have done shady stuff. That's no the only site you'll find that says ISIS is US backed. They've said that for years. If it's in their interests, why not? Operation Northwoods. They were going to detonate bombs around America to kill their own citizens so they could blame it on Castro. They even signed off on it. But JFK shut it down.
People also have been saying that the moon landings were faked, flouride in our water is a plot to mind control the US population, vaccinations for the flue are plots to input tracking chips into us, and lizard people are secretly in control of all of the worlds governments for years. That doesn't mean we should treat them seriously when they provide no proof for their claims and all they have are eyewitness accounts at best. Which by the way are notoriously bad and are just about the worst supporting evidence you can have for your claims.
3808
« on: November 20, 2015, 08:28:44 PM »
Why bring China into the conflict? This more or less might confirm that ISIS is just a tool for western powers political intrigues rather than just a loose pack of rabid dogs.
wut
>globalresearch.ca Come on man, you're taking a website that peddles NWO conspiracies as fact seriously?
3809
« on: November 20, 2015, 08:17:59 PM »
Have they fucking added in team objective yet?
Team arena
That's not team objective.
That's a grab bag playlist.
It's all we've got
It's not team objective though and that's what he was asking for.
3810
« on: November 20, 2015, 08:06:14 PM »
I personally haven't played it, but from what I understand it suffers from the same issue as Titanfall in that it's very barebones and lacks content.
If 9 mp modes, 3 co-op modes, and a little over a dozen maps is lacking in content.
It is.
Especially when the game from 10 years ago had more and better content. Modes, maps, and co-op in this game are dreadful as well.
lolwut
Battlefront 2 had 18 maps at launch. That's 3 more than the reboot and all of the ones that weren't battlefront one remakes were pretty shit. Battlefront 2 had 7 mp game modes as opposed to the reboots 9. GC was just a dressed up instant action playlist, same with the "campaign".
If we want to start talking effective game modes Battlefront really only had one, conquest. In the reboot you can at least get a match in every game mode. Granted this is at launch though so it's possible that it may be whittled down to 3 as time goes on. However this is still 3x more game modes than battlefront 1 and 2.
I should also add that the first map pack is free and adds another 3 maps to the game so that'll bring it on par with 2 for map count.
Saying lolwut doesn't make you right. This game has no diversity. Say what you want about galactic conquest and campaign, but people loved them, and that's why they are mad its gone. Same with space battles and the clone wars era.
Also like I said, the content that IS in this game isn't even good. Maps are horrible, and its pathetic that they limited 13 maps to only 4 planets; meaning less variety. Ultimately, the design choice was made to create more opportunity for dlc, and that sucks. There is no need to have maps dedicated to the ice caves from hoth, or the droid shit from tatooine. So even if you aren't wrong in saying that the game has enough content (which I definitely don't think it does), the game still is severely lacking in variety. Where is jabba's pallace? Naboo? Tantive IV? Dagobah? Space battles?
Of course saying lolwut doesn't make me right. That's why I supported it with facts.
So 9 different game modes is lacking in variety? This isn't halo 5 where all but two are a variant of slayer. This isn't Battlefront 2 where 3 of the 7 game modes were different versions of CTF.
>no need to have a dedicated map to the ice caves in hoth or the smugglers den
>wants a dedicated map for jabbas apartment and cramped as shit ship IV
uwotm8
The maps you listed also suck ass other than Dagobah.
Dogfight is better than spacebattles. I've had more fun playing that than I ever did playing ship boarding battles.
The 9 game modes dont offer anything exciting or diverse though. Most of them do boil down into tdm (or a slight variant) and the ones that don't (droid run) are just plain garbage.
And your argument that Jabba's palace and Tantive 4 suck is wrong when a) those areas both have much more meaning to the movies than ice caves/smugglers den and b) people loved playing on them. Besides, what I listed were just a few examples. Planets (environments) battlefront 2 has: 18 Planets reboot has: 4
Can you not see how that is a problem? Whether or not you enjoyed those maps is irrelevant, they add more "star wars" to the game, and they add more variety. Game mode number is also irrelevant when they suck and you are still playing in the same spaces.
So let me get this straight. You want maps that take place in "iconic" locations over maps that play well? Well that's just a matter of personal preference then. I kinda prefer my multiplayer maps to lend themselves to a good mp experience instead of a hallway clusterfuck.
Yeah, the lack of variety in locations is a bit disappointing. However the argument here is that the reboot "doesn't have enough content". I've demonstrated that it has about the same amount of content as the previous title. A few less maps, but a few more game modes. After the first DLC (which is free) it'll have more content than its predecessor.
game type break down Supremacy - tug of war/conquest hybrid that relies on the capture of territories to win
walker assault - both sides simultaneously attack and defend various points throughout the map. Objectives are the main priority however the ability to just straight up outkill your opponent can have a major effect on how this plays out.
Droid Run - moving territories from halo really
Blast - TDM
Dog Fight - TDM in the air with a heavy emphasis on protecting/destroying the enemies vip shuttle when it appears for a big chunk of bonus points
Cargo - CTF
Drop Zone - TDM with some sort of pseudo-territories elements thrown in
Hero Hunt - Basically juggernaut from Halo
Hero Battle - Basically VIP from Halo, but with VIPs that can and want to fight instead of run away and hide in the corner
Battlefront 2 had
Conquest - self explanatory Battlefield clone
Hunt - gimmick mode that nobody played because it was native species that serve as a minor annoyance in 90% of the maps vs actual soldiers
1 flag CTF
2 Flag CTF
Space Assault - A handfull of people get to fly around in ships while everyone else plays corridor shooter 2005
Assault - A fun gimick mode where everyone is one of the stupidly overpowered hero units
Space 1 flag CTF - CTF but in space
The maps should take iconic locations, AND make balanced maps out of them. Battlefront 2 didn't have incredible map balance, but they were in iconic locations, which made them fun and exciting. The reboot accomplishes neither of those. It takes fragments of planets we've seen in the movies (with the exception of sullust) and then makes mediocre maps out of them. A lot the maps are unbalanced, and the rest are just flat out boring. Not a single map stands out like hoth or endor did in 2. It's just a whole lot of meh.
Walker assault on Endor is really the only map i'd say is unbalanced. However walker assault on Hoth does have super shitty spawns for phase 2. Every other map is fine balance wise. Iconic locations don't mean shit if the maps are just downright frustrating to play due to a myriad of poor design decisions. Hoth was the one of those two that stood out and it was a Battlefront 1 map. Endor was piss and unremarkable. It seems you find iconic locations to be "fun and exciting" while I find well designed maps to be "fun and exciting" though so that's where we reach an impasse.
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