If you've read the VN the UBW adaptation was pretty good since you can pick up on a lot of the subtle story telling. If you haven't you might be a little lost since it's the middle part of a 3 part VN.

Part 1 was given away for free in Japan so it assumes you've read it and part three is getting a movie adaptation.

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 06:55:23 PM

There are only two or three people that would be classified as underage in the game.

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAH

"i'm not a bad guy--i only killed, like, three or four people... c'moooon"

That's underage by American standards.

In other countries they aren't. Believe it or not the US isn't the worlds authority on morality, sexuality, or maturity.

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 03:41:36 PM

Quote from: challengerX on January 27, 2016, 03:17:22 PM

Is it actually sexual with children or not? Because if it isn't this thread is retarded.

YouTube

This is the extent of it. It's goofy, stupid, and silly, but it's nothing obscene that would warrant censorship.

It's kind of sexual, borderline pedophilia with a child. I don't really know what to say. It's not that bad, but it's creepy as fuck. I'd censor it honestly.

What is he saying though? What would the child say if he was being touched like that?

There are only two or three people that would be classified as underage in the game. That guy in particular is a young adult.

I ain't gonna let some foreign language stand in my way!

Just saying, even with the name changes and the removal of amie the translation of the story is really well done. Apparently it even surpasses the original writing in some instances.

Also, petition to change LC's card to this

I double this request

Not even my waifu.

How the fuck did "patting a character on the head until they blush and smile" turn into "sexually molesting your little sister"?

It's the perfect storm of everything verb hates.

It's a Japanese turn based strategy game with an anime art style where you can marry units together to have children to create a second generation of protagonists.

Let's not lie, now.

"Fire Emblem Fates also includes a feature much like Pokémon Amie which debuted in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. Players can interact with the bodies of other party members by rubbing, stroking and petting them with their stylus on the Nintendo 3DS touch screen.

Additionally, if the main character achieves an S-rank relationship with another character, the dialogue that takes place during this rubbing feature will become suggestive and sexual."

That sources back to a guy who's never played the game from some Nintendo fansite.

Quote from: Imperial Apologist on January 27, 2016, 10:53:30 AM

As for the example in the OP, I have no big moral issue with it specifically.

You are heavily biased bough you have to admit.

Although I do agree with you.

Even though it's a gross exaggeration and contains false information?

Literally all it is is head patting and hearing dialogue, a few lines of which from a couple characters contain sexual subtext once you're married to them.

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 12:34:00 PM

That's still Nintendo releasing it exclusively for their system. Another well known example would be Conkers Bad Fur Day, hell even Mother had a bunch of mature stuff in it.

I get how people see Nintendo as good wholesome family entertainment though, their main franchises (mario and pokemon) are all family friendly. However they aren't afraid to delve into more mature settings for their other games. Not that I'd say something like head patting is intimate in a sexual sense.

If you read the dialogue associated with the scenes, it's very clear that they're meant to create some sort of sexual heat.

"Mother sewed these clothes for me" -Takumi

Man I'm just getting off to the fact that his mom made his clothes. God dammit I'm just so horny.

You're likely talking about some of the S-rank quotes though. These only come from the person you're married to and some characters are more personal than others. Most of it just really corny or cheesy romance stuff. Again it was an optional feature just like pokemon amie so it's not like you're forced to use it.

I will say that Japanese is kind of blunt when translated directly, however it's the job of the localization team to convey the meaning of what's being said. To quote Filthy Frank as an example, えっち しようぜ can range from "hey you wanna fool around a little?" to full on tentacle rape cry depending on how it's said.

That's still Nintendo releasing it exclusively for their system. Another well known example would be Conkers Bad Fur Day, hell even Mother had a bunch of mature stuff in it.

I get how people see Nintendo as good wholesome family entertainment though, their main franchises (mario and pokemon) are all family friendly. However they aren't afraid to delve into more mature settings for their other games. Not that I'd say something like head patting is intimate in a sexual sense.

This particular case hits home for me, because Nintendo has always been this safe haven (most of the time) for... wholesome, non-sexualized shit--and I just view this getting-intimate-with-a-partner-in-your-bedroom thing to be a little bit over-the-top.

So umm, are we talking about the same Nintendo? This is the same company that use to own a Love Hotel chain and produced games such as rub rabbits where you made babies with other people and undressed them.

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 11:30:58 AM

I never said that, and if you're implying that "EVERYBODY" is against the inclusion of the feature you're wrong. If anything most people seem to be upset that it's not being included. Mostly because of the fact that it's censorship and they don't want some localizer with delicate sensibilities to dictate what they can and can not enjoy though. It seems a lot of people were in the "I'm never going to use it, but that doesn't mean you should remove it for the ones who do" camp.

The worst possible camp to be in.

Yes, I'm well-aware that people are retards who have it all wrong on everything. I never implied otherwise.

Everyone SHOULD be happy that the game is censored in the West, and only retards aren't.

"If you don't agree with me you're retarded and wrong about everything"

Ok

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 10:48:10 AM

If it's something that's not wanted then the consumer base and critics will openly criticize it. If it becomes clear that a feature is not wanted after it's actually been used, then it makes no sense to include it in any follow up titles.

So preemptive censorship is okay.

I never said that, and if you're implying that "EVERYBODY" is against the inclusion of the feature you're wrong. If anything most people seem to be upset that it's not being included. Mostly because of the fact that it's censorship and they don't want some localizer with delicate sensibilities to dictate what they can and can not enjoy though. It seems a lot of people were in the "I'm never going to use it, but that doesn't mean you should remove it for the ones who do" camp.

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 10:48:44 AM

This OP isn't biased, one sided, or exaggerated at all.

Indeed.

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And it doesn't include false information either.

Quote from: LC on January 27, 2016, 10:41:33 AM

The market will decide if it's a valuable feature or not.

No, it won't. Because nobody (except me) is going to refuse to purchase a product based on one small feature.

People are going to buy the game regardless of whether they support the feature or not. The market is shit.

Well yeah, because it's a good game regardless. Kind of like how you support street fighter even though it's got trashy stripper women in it.

If it's something that's not wanted then the consumer base and critics will openly criticize it. If it becomes clear that a feature is not wanted after it's actually been used, then it makes no sense to include it in any follow up titles.