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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 03:09:26 PM »
Alright dude, it's clear you've got a narrative to believe and you won't budge an inch from it. If you want to believe Obama was encouraging illegals to vote (which he wasn't) and the democrats are importing Mexicans by the truck load to take control of the country go ahead.

I'm not exactly interested in debating a fantasy so I'm done with this line of discussion.
Brah you're not even trying. I gave you my honest opinion and I'll happily listen to yours. Don't plug your ears and storm out just because I have things I believe in, I'm no going to do the same to you.

What's there to say? Obama was clearly referring to legal citizens since that he specifically said that

"if you have an undocumented family member" meaning the individual who is debating whether or not to vote because as a citizen they are eligible to

"then you have an even greater reason to vote" meaning that because undocumented citizens (illegal aliens) can't vote, you have even more reason to vote since you can use your voice in the political process to speak for them


I can't refute your claim that democrats are smuggling Hispanics in by the millions to take over the country because no proof that it's even happening even exists. And I mean legitimate proof, not some mad raving from someone like Alex Jones. It's the equivalent of you claiming there's an invisible pink elephant in the room that only you can see. I mean yeah, I can't prove that it isn't there but there's no way for you to prove it's actually there either so we're stuck at an impasse. There's no actual discussion to be had.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:55:27 PM »
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote

Did you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.
"undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.

So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?
Yes, saying "we're not going to punish you if you go out to vote, even though you broke the law and should be deported" Is encouraging illegals to vote. And if you listened to it you'd know they're talking about the voters themselves just as much as they're talking about their families.

Fact is, if Russia sent millions of people into America to vote in the election for their preferred candidate, it would be an international incident and we'd be hearing about it for years, but Mexico can do the exact same thing and get it approved of by the incumbent president? the fuck.

Can you explain why legal citizens should be punished and deported for exercising their right to vote? Because if you aren't talking about legal citizens (the people Obama was encouraging to vote) then you've created your own fantasy here and I'm not exactly interested in talking about whatever fantasy world you've concocted where Obama told illegal aliens to go out and vote.
Ignoring your terrible attitude, I actually will make the case that Mexicans, Guatemalans, and other hispanic groups that were given citizenship for the purpose of voting for democrats should be revoked of their status and deported, because they are being used as a weapon to "elect a new people" as the saying goes. They almost exclusively vote democrat, they have very high birthrates, and they use more welfare than they pay for. The only reason they're in the country is to turn red states blue, and make blue states stay that way. This isn't democracy, it's bullshit.

Alright dude, it's clear you've got a narrative to believe and you won't budge an inch from it. If you want to believe Obama was encouraging illegals to vote (which he wasn't) and the democrats are importing Mexicans by the truck load to take control of the country go ahead.

I'm not exactly interested in debating a fantasy so I'm done with this line of discussion.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:47:35 PM »
being deported if they vote.

Sorry, I thought I made it clear that that was referring to legal citizens in that instance.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:39:41 PM »
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote

Did you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.
Not watching the video right now, bit please clarify your pronouns. Are you telling me that he said that citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being reported if the family members vote or if the legal citizen votes?

Legal citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being deported if they vote. As in the act of voting won't alert anyone to the fact that you have illegal immigrants living with you.
The they being the legal citizens?

I never said the word "they", the closest i got to saying that is "their" so now I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:37:50 PM »
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote

Did you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.
"undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.

So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?
Yes, saying "we're not going to punish you if you go out to vote, even though you broke the law and should be deported" Is encouraging illegals to vote. And if you listened to it you'd know they're talking about the voters themselves just as much as they're talking about their families.

Fact is, if Russia sent millions of people into America to vote in the election for their preferred candidate, it would be an international incident and we'd be hearing about it for years, but Mexico can do the exact same thing and get it approved of by the incumbent president? the fuck.

Can you explain why legal citizens should be punished and deported for exercising their right to vote? Because if you aren't talking about legal citizens (the people Obama was encouraging to vote) then you've created your own fantasy here and I'm not exactly interested in talking about whatever fantasy world you've concocted where Obama told illegal aliens to go out and vote.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:34:35 PM »
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote

Did you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.
Not watching the video right now, bit please clarify your pronouns. Are you telling me that he said that citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being reported if the family members vote or if the legal citizen votes?

Legal citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being deported if they vote. As in the act of voting won't alert anyone to the fact that you have illegal immigrants living with you.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:28:25 PM »
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote

Did you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.
"undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.

So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PM »
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote

Did you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.

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Serious / Re: Should the US abolish the Electoral College?
« on: November 22, 2016, 02:19:10 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

some quick and dirty reading if you're interested

basically there's been a movement by a handful of states for a while to try to work around the EC

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The Flood / Re: Dragon Ball Thread (DBS epispde 67)
« on: November 22, 2016, 01:38:40 PM »
gogeta being canonized was nice too.
This didn't happen though

gt is/was canon
As far as I'm concerned, no Toriyama involvement beyond some character illustrations makes it non canon from the start.

While DB and Z have the manga, Super has Toriyama's outlines and character art (and Toyotaro as his chosen successor). I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball Online even had more Toriyama input than GT.

i mean, what is canon is decided by the owner and distributor. disney decides what is canon with star wars, not lucas.

besides, gts art style is waaay cooler than some of super's stuff.

Toei doesn't own dragon ball

they owned the right to create under the license

i thought about using the word "creator" but i knew someone would try to argue that that right belongs to toriyama

the only own the rights for the anime

shueisha inc. actually owns dragonball

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The Flood / Re: It's Berenst(A)in, not Berenst(E)in.
« on: November 22, 2016, 11:16:06 AM »
Welcome to the Universe A and E theory.

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The Flood / Re: Dragon Ball Thread (DBS epispde 67)
« on: November 22, 2016, 10:22:49 AM »
gogeta being canonized was nice too.
This didn't happen though

gt is/was canon
As far as I'm concerned, no Toriyama involvement beyond some character illustrations makes it non canon from the start.

While DB and Z have the manga, Super has Toriyama's outlines and character art (and Toyotaro as his chosen successor). I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball Online even had more Toriyama input than GT.

i mean, what is canon is decided by the owner and distributor. disney decides what is canon with star wars, not lucas.

besides, gts art style is waaay cooler than some of super's stuff.

Toei doesn't own dragon ball

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The Flood / Re: Not impressed by JJBA
« on: November 22, 2016, 01:37:15 AM »
I don't really care for it either which makes me the odd one out in the weeb circle.
you make yourself the odd one out.

You're also not the only one who hasn't seen it


Nice post I guess

But I have seen it? Just because I didn't care to watch the entire thing from start to finish doesn't mean I haven't seen it.


 

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The Flood / Re: Dragon Ball Thread (DBS epispde 67)
« on: November 21, 2016, 12:17:22 AM »
when can we expect the english dub

i cannot sit through the jap version of this show
Don't know, we'll probably get english Buu Kai first if they decide to not air them aside each other

yeah but fucking when

buu kai has been in development for like 3 years

pretty sure it already finished in Japan

so the delay probably had something to do with the deal FOX has due to DB: Evolution, which in case you aren't aware means they get first pick on everything and if they don't give an answer on something Funimation has to wait a certain amount of time before they're allowed to pick it up

i meant "english dub development"

i was under the impression that the cast was  starting the developing for the buu saga for kai 3 years ago

you can start development on something before you have the rights to it, i think they just finished it up a few months ago and they're waiting for the ok to release it

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The Flood / Re: Dragon Ball Thread (DBS epispde 67)
« on: November 21, 2016, 12:09:45 AM »
when can we expect the english dub

i cannot sit through the jap version of this show
Don't know, we'll probably get english Buu Kai first if they decide to not air them aside each other

yeah but fucking when

buu kai has been in development for like 3 years

pretty sure it already finished in Japan

so the delay probably had something to do with the deal FOX has due to DB: Evolution, which in case you aren't aware means they get first pick on everything and if they don't give an answer on something Funimation has to wait a certain amount of time before they're allowed to pick it up

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The Flood / Re: It's looking like Al Baghdadi and I are done
« on: November 20, 2016, 02:02:48 AM »
It didn't even come with the lube that was shown on the receipt.

makes me wonder if they tested it out before sending it to you

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The Flood / Re: Not impressed by JJBA
« on: November 20, 2016, 01:57:56 AM »
I don't really care for it either which makes me the odd one out in the weeb circle.

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The Flood / Re: >when you accidently find Flee on a porn site
« on: November 17, 2016, 04:32:36 PM »
what's in "New Folder" Das?

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Gaming / Re: Fallout Pinball
« on: November 17, 2016, 12:04:32 PM »
>Doom is getting JUST'ed too

https://twitter.com/zen_studios/status/799281291866742784

It's not fair

>doom and fallout get an entire franchise mention but TES is only referred to as Skyrim

fucking normies

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The Flood / Re: I'm finally Mythic
« on: November 17, 2016, 11:48:57 AM »
i remember when ahri was good, but that was also when characters actually were diverse and weren't rebalanced to be homogenized trash


Love you too, LC.




What little I played of League I actually never used Ahri. I preferred Jinx tbh. I kicked ass with Jinx.




which reminds me...

vi was tolerable, but i've always hated jinx

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The Flood / Re: I'm finally Mythic
« on: November 17, 2016, 11:43:08 AM »
i remember when ahri was good, but that was also when characters actually were diverse and weren't rebalanced to be homogenized trash

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Serious / Re: State of the Nation report on social mobility in the UK
« on: November 17, 2016, 09:40:43 AM »
We need to bring to back Grade retention

wait, is that seriously not a thing in the UK?
Unfortunately no, people generally progress onto the next academic year regardless of their grade.

what's even the point in giving people grades then?

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Serious / Re: State of the Nation report on social mobility in the UK
« on: November 17, 2016, 02:48:41 AM »
We need to bring to back Grade retention

wait, is that seriously not a thing in the UK?

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The Flood / Re: *******ANIME MEGATHREAD********
« on: November 15, 2016, 02:43:36 PM »
looks like trash, but fans of the original thing are probably gonna hate it too

yeah i don't think I've seen a fan of the original who thinks it's going to be a good movie

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Gaming / Re: Skyrim special edition impulse buy
« on: November 15, 2016, 12:57:49 PM »
I'm in the process of ordering it. Reaching the point of no return soon.

If you're still building that PC just wait until that's built and then buy it. You'll have better mod support than you would on the console.

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Serious / Re: MSNBC takes the Red Pill
« on: November 14, 2016, 01:08:03 PM »
I'm trying to figure out what kind of timeline i'd have to have stumbled into for the Clintons to be considered liberal

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Gaming / Re: I bought Dark Souls 3
« on: November 14, 2016, 03:12:02 AM »
I didn't think there was anything wrong with DS3, but then again I haven't play DS to death so I still find it fun.

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What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.
The Great Depression was caused almost exclusively by poor management by the Fed, established only 17 years before the stock market crash by a democratic Congress and president, and was worsened by terrible protectionist policy by the reactionary democratic Congress of the 1930s and FDR's New Deal.
Is that the historic, commonly agreed-upon conclusion, or is that your conclusion? I appreciate you chiming in, because I'm not a history buff, but I just wanna make sure I'm not being fed bullshit.

That's the conclusion from the right wing that's been pushed over the last few years.

The New Deal is commonly agreed to be one of the big things that brought the US out of the Great Depression.

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Good, it's about time the Clintons and their people got kicked out of politics.

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Serious / Re: Now for the $20,000,000 question:
« on: November 12, 2016, 12:17:14 PM »
in 2012 it was Romney

How did this thing start? Obama won the popular vote in 2012 by about 4 million votes.

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