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The Flood / Re: "Sand sneks are the key to all this"- GoT S6 Episode 5 discussion
« on: May 23, 2016, 01:02:04 AM »
For anyone that thinks this is what's going to happen in the books, I'd just like to point out that this was a very intricate scene where each part basically depends on the previous to be able to happen but I don't think would be possible in the books. You may remember that they said the same exact thing after Stannis burned Shireen last season, but if you take a step back and think about it, there's not really any plausible way to get from point A to point B.
First off, the Night King is a character that has only appeared in the show and doesn't seem to be in any way related to the Night's King from the books, which GRRM has heavily implied is just a legend and nothing more. Second, Bran's greenseer powers allow him to see through weirwood trees' history. He can't just manifest his body walking around any random place. This means that the Night King couldn't just grab his arm and put a curse on him or whatever. From here, the sequence basically falls apart.
The books have also never mentioned that Hodor was once intelligent, which would be strange considering most of the people who would have known him as a child would have been around, including his great-grandmother Old Nan. I also don't see how you can get "Hodor" from "hold the door". Maybe if he was saying "Holdor" I'd have an easier time buying it. Also if the Others never put a curse on Bran then they would presumably never have to flee from the cave. And why would there be a wooden door at the end of a cave tunnel anyway?
I really doubt that George will give Bran the ability to warg into people throughout time. It's doesn't fit with what we know about Bran's powers and becomes paradoxical fast. Why wouldn't he just warg into Jaime so that he never throws him out of a tower?
I think this was just a clever way to tie up a lot of loose ends and claiming it came from George is just to try to justify butchering the canon so hard. I think we need to drop the idea that the show will end the same as the books because we're at the point where basically every storyline holds no semblance to the source material and even history and lore is being changed. I actually do prefer this "fanfiction" writing honestly and this episode was my favorite since Hardhome.
First off, the Night King is a character that has only appeared in the show and doesn't seem to be in any way related to the Night's King from the books, which GRRM has heavily implied is just a legend and nothing more. Second, Bran's greenseer powers allow him to see through weirwood trees' history. He can't just manifest his body walking around any random place. This means that the Night King couldn't just grab his arm and put a curse on him or whatever. From here, the sequence basically falls apart.
The books have also never mentioned that Hodor was once intelligent, which would be strange considering most of the people who would have known him as a child would have been around, including his great-grandmother Old Nan. I also don't see how you can get "Hodor" from "hold the door". Maybe if he was saying "Holdor" I'd have an easier time buying it. Also if the Others never put a curse on Bran then they would presumably never have to flee from the cave. And why would there be a wooden door at the end of a cave tunnel anyway?
I really doubt that George will give Bran the ability to warg into people throughout time. It's doesn't fit with what we know about Bran's powers and becomes paradoxical fast. Why wouldn't he just warg into Jaime so that he never throws him out of a tower?
I think this was just a clever way to tie up a lot of loose ends and claiming it came from George is just to try to justify butchering the canon so hard. I think we need to drop the idea that the show will end the same as the books because we're at the point where basically every storyline holds no semblance to the source material and even history and lore is being changed. I actually do prefer this "fanfiction" writing honestly and this episode was my favorite since Hardhome.