I was more referring to her case in particular, because she's a serious collector. With a particular fetish for boxes. She values the boxes with the same amount as the game itself--she won't even play the game if she doesn't have the box to go with it. Right?

Ah that's makes more sense then. I hate boxes with a passion, but love (and miss) box art / guides.
I could understand a collector not wanting to jump.

The day consoles drop physical media is the day I stop buying them.

Bought my ps4 at launch, and I've yet to see if the disc drive works.
Slapped a 2TB in there and called it a day. You don't realize how annoying discs are until you get rid of them.

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Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 19, 2015, 02:45:26 PM

American Sniper was a great movie and Mr. Kyle was an outstanding American. God bless his soul for his heroic service to protecting American ideals and saving countless soldiers from towel head scum

And. . . Reported.

As much as I find this comment distasteful it isn't actually against the rules.

Was gonna say since nigger is open for use towel-head would seem benign in comparison.

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Quote from: Naoto on January 18, 2015, 08:07:54 PM

Art isn't defined by such a narrow definition.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. My post was specifically ambiguous about the definition of art.

Reads like you're attempting to narrow the definition to not include video games for some reason.
Because 'shooting up a town is tasteless'?

No, in fact my post includes the majority of games in the realm of art. I'm talking about the idea that not all games are art, particularly those that don't strive to explain, explore, criticize, or otherwise discuss the human experience. A child's clay statue is certainly an artistic expression, but is a clay plate? Namely, I'm criticizing the video's excuse of game violence because it's art, as if that somehow dissolves the importance of its meaning. In fact, if all video games are to be art, then they ought to be held to higher scrutiny than mere base forms of entertainment, and so the criticisms are even more valid.

Comparing the plate to the game as a whole is a really bad metaphor that doesn't make sense. The plate is not part of the sculpture while the music, story, artstyle, etc all make the game. Essentially those elements are the clay in this bad comparison. And the developers are the shitty 12 yo slapping them together. Whether they make a plate, a beautiful sculpture, or a dildo its still art. You don't have to like it for it to be art. (though this metaphor is beginning to cross into making 'tools' which is why its such a bad comparison)

Again whether it is violent or not, and whether you find the violence reprehensible or not is irrelevant. You can still criticize art. People make a living doing it. You can still criticize violence in a game. Just as people are able to disagree with those criticisms. Like all other forms of art.

I don't understand your insinuation that because games are art they are some how free of scrutiny. Art is some of the most scrutinized stuff on the planet.

Edit: The video is criticizing those who think violence or controversy are inherently taboo in art. People who would censor the artists for causing offence. At the end of the day the artist is able to make whatever they want, and while you are free to criticize they are not beholden to make their game the way the critic wants.

Admittedly I stopped to reply a couple minutes into the video, but do any of you seriously see video games necessarily as art? I mean, the designs are art. The music is art. The story is probably artful, and clearly the creative process of making a game is an act of artistry, but the typical video game itself is hardly art. A museum isn't art just because it exists to showcase artistic projects. This always seems like such a weak argument to offense taken at the violence seen in some games, as if shooting up a city is somehow less tasteless because it's animated.

And this isn't a slam against those games -- Saints Row IV, a game largely focused around beating aliens to death with dildo-themed weaponry in bondage outfits -- is one of the most enjoyable games I've played, but it's hardly in the same category of media as The Starry Night.

Art isn't defined by such a narrow definition. It doesn't have to be a timeless classic to be art. Shitty sculptures kids make in middle school art class qualify as art. Someone finding it tasteless or offensive is absolutely inconsequential. Movies, music, books, video games. These are all artistic mediums.

Quote from: Naoto on January 18, 2015, 05:58:03 PM

omg faggots stop with the quotes.
Tapatalk is raping my phone.

Actually I guess I can uninstall it now after the update. <.<
As you were.

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Quote from: Osstru on January 18, 2015, 04:48:15 PM

What is this cool shit and why cant i play it

Either because you don't have a 3DS or you don't have the money.

Both.
Whats an sRPG

<_<
>_>
I didn't just order one...

...

3DS? Or FE?

I'm rich so both.

le XL?

Whats an sRPG

Strategy RPG. Otherwise known as a Tactical RPG.

Quote from: True Turquoise on January 18, 2015, 09:29:29 AM

ITT: Tru is the only one with good taste.

>Also likes DA2
>Never played Fire Emblem
>Is a plebweeb

Quote from: Naoto on January 18, 2015, 12:28:32 PM

tfw you put 30 likes on this bitch, and then accidentally hit unlike erasing them all.

pleb

tfw you put 30 likes on this bitch, and then accidentally hit unlike erasing them all.

Well if we all became commies, took the posts from those with the highest post counts, and distributed them evenly I'm sure we could all have Legendary.

But sep7 is a capitalist hellhole comrade.

Quote from: Naoto on January 18, 2015, 10:58:58 AM

Quote from: Tyger on January 18, 2015, 10:29:55 AM

Should I buy this shitty weeb game

Final fantasy tactics is like my favorite game ever

I would scream yes into your face until you bought it, but I'm biased.

I don't think its for everyone, but its a quality sRPG.

i don't think I've ever played an sRPG I didn't like
Also I think it was you I told I played disgaea? Yeah I got that mixed up with a different game. I found the case to it in my closet it's was Valkyria Profile lol I was way off

Been meaning to try Valkyria Chronicles on Vita as well. Plus I still need to pick up Tactics Ogre.
Too many games. 

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Second ever adult rating in the history of gaming.
Think on that for a second.

False.

What am I supposed to be thinking about, anyway?

*second game to do so based on violence. Obviously porn games exist.

What you're suppose to think about is what that says about how young the industry still is that an adult rating is a death knell for a lot of games.

I don't think it's reflective of the industry, but rather demonstrative of the power that soccer moms hold over retailers and console makers.

I think that's a reflection of how young it is as well. You don't see people demanding NC-17 movies not be shown in theaters. Most theaters even decide for themselves whether or not to let 17yo's in. Yet the second a game like hatred turns up everyone clamps down and self censors for fear of backlash. Because games are still widely viewed as children's toys, and as 'potentially dangerous' despite the scientific evidence against that.

They haven't really been normalized yet with the mainstream, and that's something that only comes with time. Like kids now a days are growing up watching minecraft on their smart phones. Hatred isn't going to scare them when they're 40.