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Serious / Re: I change my mind
« on: February 15, 2018, 01:04:56 PM »
I was actually kidding about all that leftism stuff im a facsist now. im racist
I mean you can totally be on the right and be against authoritarianism.

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Serious / Re: I change my mind
« on: February 15, 2018, 09:53:46 AM »
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Yeah I understand that point, but I'm thinking practically here. If millions of people would reject that way of living, if they would refuse to accept and go along with it, then the state would have to force them to go along with it or force them out of society through tyranny.

tbh (and I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I don't know you well enough) I think any vision of utopia is directly pursued through naivety. Perhaps unless and until we discover an over-unity method of creating energy and in turn create over-abundance for our society. If we actually manage to reach the technological singularity, for instance, and it doesn't end up bringing about our extinction, then I think the pursuit of utopia might be more plausible. But only if, and this is a very huge if, (((human nature))) doesn't intervene again. After-all, people revel in danger and hardship. To so many, life is meaningless without struggle against something in some form. Without any struggle ever, I'm not certain a human can find meaning in living tbh. I'm just not wise enough to know and probably never will be.

The human nature argument always puzzled me, it's fairly obvious human nature is a result of surroundings, of nurture over nature for the most part, and so in a Capitalist society, people are selfish, as that is what the system rewards. Whereas a lot of people I know with anti-capitalist views are generally considerably kinder and more accepting/helpful.

I'm an Anarchist, and so I believe in abolishing the state, for freedom of all people, people telling you how to live and what to live for is an inherently oppressive thing. People want freedom.
I think environment plays a very significant and important role in shaping a person's nature, but I also believe biology does as well, and perhaps there are many other factors I am not privy to because, as I said, I am not wise enough to understand them. I think human nature is something far too complex for some single person to definitively understand. The best we can do, as a species, is search for truths that we know to direct us towards the path of a meaningful life and condense these truths into wisdom that we carry into the future.

In utopia, I'm not so convinced that someone wouldn't try to tear it down, to create chaos again.

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Serious / Re: I change my mind
« on: February 15, 2018, 09:28:42 AM »
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

All Communism is, is community controlled means of production. With people giving according to their ability, and receiving according to their needs. Tyrants like Stalin ruled in state capitalism and called it communism.
Yeah I understand that point, but I'm thinking practically here. If millions of people would reject that way of living, if they would refuse to accept and go along with it, then the state would have to force them to go along with it or force them out of society through tyranny.

tbh (and I'm not saying this is what you're doing, I don't know you well enough) I think any vision of utopia is directly pursued through naivety. Perhaps unless and until we discover an over-unity method of creating energy and in turn create over-abundance for our society. If we actually manage to reach the technological singularity, for instance, and it doesn't end up bringing about our extinction, then I think the pursuit of utopia might be more plausible. But only if, and this is a very huge if, (((human nature))) doesn't intervene again. After-all, people revel in danger and hardship. To so many, life is meaningless without struggle against something in some form. Without any struggle ever, I'm not certain a human can find meaning in living tbh. I'm just not wise enough to know and probably never will be.

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Serious / Re: I change my mind
« on: February 14, 2018, 10:29:15 PM »
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

No, it's a genuine and highly thought out ideology, I hope you aren't one of those "Socialism is when the government does stuff" types. As Communism, in it's truest form, is stateless.
How is it possible to achieve true communism without the state intervening? Considering the fact that millions of people wouldn't go along with it.

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Serious / Re: I change my mind
« on: February 14, 2018, 10:02:23 PM »
Anarcho-Communist
Isn't this like an oxymoron?

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The Flood / Re: ♥ ♥ ♥ Happy Valentines day! ♥ ♥ ♥
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:39:49 PM »
Always been a meaningless holiday for me.

Yes, I'm a lonely boy.

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Serious / Re: Thoughts?
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:14:32 PM »
Hops also contain phytoestrogens so I wonder why all the believers of the soyboy aren't going after craft beers.

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The Flood / Re: College Is A Scam
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:10:27 PM »
Also, what kind of engineering course is asking about extreme sports tricks? And not even in a scientific or mathematical way. . .

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The Flood / Re: College Is A Scam
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:06:25 PM »
I've played Tony Hawk's before, this is true.
Nah an fs board-slide is a grind not an air trick.

I guess you could do it on the edge at the top of the halfpipe but the wording seems to imply using the halfpipe as normal.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 09:25:21 PM »
I'm allergic to red meat. It does suck. I miss tonkotsu ramen and korean bbq... it's better for me in the long run, but it still sucks.
Full blown anaphylaxis allergic or hyper-sensitive to it? A lot of people develop food sensitivities from a condition called leaky gut syndrome which increases the permeability of your intestinal wall, allowing larger particles and pathogens to enter the blood stream that aren't supposed to. I've heard it can lead to full blown food allergies for people that weren't born with them, as your immune system starts to attack the things getting into your bloodstream that aren't supposed to be.

Not saying you, specifically, have it, but a lot of people do and don't even know about it.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 02:22:47 PM »
No I only get sugars from fruits but I have carbs to rely on.
Ah, personally I wouldn't necessarily call that a low sugar diet as most fruits contain a healthy amount of sugar and carbs turn into sugar in your body anyways. What would be considered a normal intake of sugar for the average person here, I would consider an extremely high intake. Anyone who eats or drinks anything with high fructose corn syrup for instance is almost certainly taking in too much sugar. Unfortunately that shit is in just about everything in the US.

 Depending on how your carb intake is I would say you're probably at the level the average person should be having.

Yeah, a healthy amount of carbs and sugars is a low sugar diet. The carbs are just for bulking atm, I plan to cut them out more in a few months time (and the sugar from fruit I burn off immediately anyway).

I'd see a nutritionist if I was you. It sounds pretty far above either of our paygrades to deal with.
What you call a low intake, I guess I would call a healthy intake. To each his own, I suppose.

Can't go see any doctor atm, sadly, because I have no insurance. There's actually a rather new but supposedly effective method for treating gut biome problems like mine that is essentially taking the flora from a healthy person and putting it into a supplement for someone like me to take but it isn't something any doctor around here in bumfuck boonieville would even know about, much less actually be able to try.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 02:07:01 PM »
Well I'd look into it further, but I can tell your from my own experience that if you're only getting your protein from a few sources you're training your body to only extract protein from those sources, which could cyclically affect your illness. My body rejected soy off the bat too (I'd been avoiding it for so long because I mistakeningly thought it would combat my raising testosterone levels) but after a few days your body instantly remembers where to put the nutrients and it's just another part of my diet. Even nuts shouldn't be a problem for you.
It's very important that I start diversifying my diet, but I can't do that until I've eliminated the overgrowth to a certain point. Otherwise I will only feed it and end up getting even more sick. This is an extremely tricky health condition to overcome, unfortunately.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 02:02:56 PM »
No I only get sugars from fruits but I have carbs to rely on.
Ah, personally I wouldn't necessarily call that a low sugar diet as most fruits contain a healthy amount of sugar and carbs turn into sugar in your body anyways. What would be considered a normal intake of sugar for the average person here, I would consider an extremely high intake. Anyone who eats or drinks anything with high fructose corn syrup for instance is almost certainly taking in too much sugar. Unfortunately that shit is in just about everything in the US.

 Depending on how your carb intake is I would say you're probably at the level the average person should be having.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 01:56:30 PM »
For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.

What condition do you have?
Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth.

If you wanna know:
People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.

You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.

So after a bit of research it looks like you'd be allowed some beans, tofu and nuts in your case. Lots of ripe fruits and non-starchy vegetables, with some honey to add flavour. That sounds pretty much exactly like my current diet.

https://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
No I can't have any of those. Especially the honey. I have an extremely severe case of SIBO. One of the absolute worst cases you can get tbh. If I was to eat any of those I would be in a lot of terrible pain. Trust me, I've done a lot of experimentation with which foods I can tolerate and I'm literally at the point where I can only tolerate poultry, fish, and a few vegetables like yellow squash and spinach.

Is this what your doctors are recommending?
My doctor isn't a nutritionist unfortunately. I have to basically go by how my body reacts to certain foods. That's how it goes for digestive disorders like mine because each individual case is different. No two people have the exact same strains or levels of bacteria/fungi in their gut. It's bad enough that we were going to start trying glucose infusions to get some sugar in me without having to eat it because it would just feed the overgrowth otherwise.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 01:52:08 PM »
I have a god-tier diet with very low sugar and no processed foods whatsoever.
Really? Are you in ketosis then? My ketone levels were high enough that my doctor was worried I'd end up in the hospital. We wanted me to try and get some amount of sugar back into my diet, but I feel much better when I'm in ketosis. A lot better than if I have even small amounts of sugar.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 01:47:53 PM »
For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.

What condition do you have?
Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth.

If you wanna know:
People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.

You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.

So after a bit of research it looks like you'd be allowed some beans, tofu and nuts in your case. Lots of ripe fruits and non-starchy vegetables, with some honey to add flavour. That sounds pretty much exactly like my current diet.

https://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
No I can't have any of those. Especially the honey. I have an extremely severe case of SIBO. One of the absolute worst cases you can get tbh. If I was to eat any of those I would be in a lot of terrible pain. Trust me, I've done a lot of experimentation with which foods I can tolerate and I'm literally at the point where I can only tolerate poultry, fish, and a few vegetables like yellow squash and spinach.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 01:44:16 PM »
This is bullshit lol I've had rabbit that a friend shot and it was delicious. Animals taste great. If you go to a farmers market and choose a chicken then cut off the head, pluck and clean it, I guarantee it's far more delicious than anything you get in the supermarket.

You have valid arguments against eating meat, but this isn't one of them.

Maybe rabbit tastes good, then. I don't know. Beef, chicken and pork is exceptionally bland without some kind of seasoning.
Do you eat a lot of processed food or food with higher levels of sugar? When I cut out sugar, carbs, and all processed foods, I started to notice a difference in how flavorful foods that used to be bland to me tasted. Plain chicken or turkey has a very good flavor to me now, for instance. I also make my own plain sour yogurt and and it tastes much better than plain yogurt I've tried in the past before my diet changes. Not really sour at all.

tbh just about everything I eat now tastes a lot better since cutting sugar from my diet.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 12:52:08 PM »
For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.

What condition do you have?
Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth.

If you wanna know:
People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.

You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.

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The Flood / Re: "Meat is for Pussies"
« on: February 13, 2018, 12:27:06 PM »
For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.

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I'll get back to you shortly, btw.
Ah okay but I'll have to read it later because I'm totally out of it and can't concentrate on anything right now, so take all the time you need.

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The Flood / Re: 21 today
« on: February 12, 2018, 08:25:07 PM »
congo rats etc.

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The Flood / Re: Sad for days...
« on: February 11, 2018, 02:08:31 PM »
Did you know? The site got a boost in new users
Was there another b.net purge or something?
http://sep7agon.net/the-flood/gtit's-another-episode-of-bungie-fucking-over-their-halo-fans/


Holy shit that's fucking sad. I hope their company goes under. Maybe that doesn't mean much coming from me (someone who never really played Halo nor Destiny and was never on b.net) but damn you can't do that to your customers that's some petty shit right there.
Bungie only gives a fuck about the community in so far as to sell their content. Old Halo/Oni/Myth fans are irrelevant to them now.

 The developer sold its soul to Activision.

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The Flood / Re: Sad for days...
« on: February 11, 2018, 12:31:47 PM »
You really are a trooper. I don't know how you do it. I hope you feel better soon Chronic. :( The suffering you go through is so unfair. You don't deserve it. I hope you are cured soon. <3
Thanks, but It will be a long time before I'm 'cured.'

This mess is the result of my own foolishness so I would say I'm getting exactly what I deserve. At least I can say I learned an incredibly valuable lesson from it all.

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The Flood / Re: Sad for days...
« on: February 11, 2018, 12:20:39 PM »
Going through a very intense herxheimer reaction that has lasted for 3 weeks now. Definitely one of the most harrowing experiences I've ever been through.

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The Flood / Re: Stan is such a fucking sad song
« on: February 10, 2018, 06:19:50 PM »
Old slim shady was good, the white guilt thing is p cringey tho.

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The Flood / Re: So the Tide Pod challenge is a real thing?
« on: February 09, 2018, 08:45:22 PM »
If by "real thing" you mean that stupid people are actually trying it, then yes.

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The Flood / Re: So you're a furry
« on: February 09, 2018, 05:20:25 PM »
Time to buy.


Why would anybody buy a flamethrower when it's so easy to make?
It's really just a ridiculous way to support the company.
Why is there interest in supporting the company?
Some people will support practically anything Elon Musk does at this point.

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The Flood / Re: So you're a furry
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:39:24 PM »
Time to buy.


Why would anybody buy a flamethrower when it's so easy to make?
It's really just a ridiculous way to support the company.

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The Flood / Re: So you're a furry
« on: February 09, 2018, 02:45:13 PM »

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Spoiler
From what I can tell, the contents of the C16 bill seem to have been exaggerated and mischaracterized by many – Peterson included. There’s numerous articles and expert opinions that have covered this in depth. The effects of the law have been discussed in detail by professors of law and the Canadian Bar Association. Reading the text of the law itself and the accompanying explanatory notes should help clear much of that up.

The law changes two things. One, that gender identity is now explicitly recognized in the criminal code for sentencing and the crimes of advocating genocide and the willful promotion / public incitement of hatred. Using the wrong pronoun does not fall under this by any stretch of the imagination. Two, it adds gender expression to the Canadian Human Rights Code. This is nothing new and has been the case where Peterson lives for 5 years already. It relates to discrimination in certain areas such as employment and housing, meaning that you cannot do things like deny people jobs or rent based solely on the fact that they’re transgender. As the Canadian Department of Justice has already confirmed, this will not provide transgenders with special rights. There’s several other articles out there that include interviews with legal experts and overviews of Canadian court cases / official statements on this topic, but I’ll just give you a few more if you want to go through them. Warning, the last one is far too personally negative when it comes to Peterson but gives a very lengthy (6000 words) and detailed overview of the law and what it entails.

So yeah, in my opinion many blanket statements do amount to fearmongering and give the impression that people will face criminal charges for using the wrong pronouns. Peterson himself has admitted he doesn’t actually know the legal side of things very well, yet he still presents himself as an expert talking at length about farfetched and very questionable interpretations of the law that has actually already been applied in most Canadian regions for years without any of the concerns turning out to be true. In my opinion, the "SJW's are going after free speech and you're going to be in trouble for not catering to gender whims" narrative seems very unsubstantiated here. [/spoiler]

Spoiler
As for the Damore memo, there are again very extensive factchecks that present alternative evidence, research and studies that challenge or add nuance to his claims. This 40 page overview by a behavioral science and evolutionary biology PhD candidate seems to cover much of it. It includes over a 100 references and concludes with links to numerous books and other analyses by scientists in a variety of fields. From what I can tell, Damore appears to be pushing an evolutionary biology narrative that is outdated and no longer supported by the majority. He cites studies and research of which the authors themselves have since said that his conclusions are not in line with their work or not necessarily applicable to the situation he’s referring to. The core of much of this resistance seems to be that while he gets the basics of some things right (there are of course some differences between men and women), Damore has overstated much of them, selectively ignored heaps of recent evidence challenging some of his points, paid little to no attention to how discrimination and social patterns can perpetuate inequalities rather than innate biological differences, and drew implications regarding human abilities and work skills that are inaccurate, all without recognizing the nuances and pitfalls of research in this field. One of the biggest issues with his memo is how it incorrectly appears to present particular schools of thought as fact and reflecting consensus while this is not the case at all, and how it misses findings in neuroscience that suggest conditioning and culture are at play rather than the biology he implies.

Damore raises some sound and relevant points and this discussion should be had, but a good amount of what he says simply lacks says nuance or is selectively interpreting evidence to make very questionable claims – as does much of the criticism depicting him as some sexist monster.
In regards to Bill C-16, I will have to take the time to go through all the info on it. I've read the bill itself and it appears to be very vague in its wording. I'm not a legal expert so I'm not going to make any conclusions, but it looks to a layman like me that much of the bill is left up to interpretation. IE: what constitutes bias, what constitutes gender expression, what constitutes hate etc.

One of the answers in the Department of Justice link you posted seems to confirm that:

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A. In order to ensure that the law would be as inclusive as possible, the terms “gender identity” and “gender expression” are not defined in the Bill. With very few exceptions, grounds of discrimination are not defined in legislation but are left to courts, tribunals, and commissions to interpret and explain, based on their detailed experience with particular cases.

If I am a professor at a university, and I refuse to refer to someone as zer, what in the law specifically draws the distinction between that and illegal discrimination? If I am a student, and I hold a protest  with signs stating that there are only two genders, what in the law distinguishes that from hate propaganda? What constitutes these things is unspecified. In the first instance, does the court not have the possibility to rule that my refusal to call someone zer is discrimination? Ergo, would that not be a ruling that I would have to refer to said person as zer under the penalty of law? There are claims that the bill does not apply to university classrooms, but I don't see that defined anywhere in the law. Where does it state that these laws to not apply in that setting?

 I've never seen Peterson claim that people would be thrown in jail for mis-gendering someone, however I have seen various people state that the law can inevitably lead to a jail sentence through contempt of court if one refuses to pay the fines levied against them for the courts ruling that what they did was discrimination.

Going through that, nothing seems to address the issue of interpretation. In fact it only seems to reinforce that it is a problem to me.

I'll have to look over the Damore links later, I know research evolves overtime and new findings are always coming out. I just hope most of it is strictly fact/research-oriented, and I don't see a bunch of mess trying to tell me the guy was pushing an 'alt-right' agenda or anything, because I watched multiple interviews with him and he didn't give me that impression at all. He just seems like a very analytical person that offered input in what ways he understands best, statistical data specifically. That his cited stats needed updating seems far more reasonable and likely than him trying to push a partisan narrative.

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