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The Flood / Re: ITT: We Are BuzzFeed
« on: February 15, 2017, 04:02:20 PM »
fuck white people

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Nice job, but totally impractical as a real weapon. =]

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:38:08 PM »
These claims are ridiculous, I guess anyone who drinks coffee for the sole purpose of waking up in the morning is a moron
Yes.

Caffeine is EXTREMELY unhealthy, and you're no better than a crackhead if you drink it in my eyes.
Except coffee in moderation is healthy.
It doesn't matter if it is. It's still caffeine, so you still shouldn't drink it.
Wait what is the reasoning behind this? It's not psychoactive, and it's not harmful. Where is the logic?
There's is no logic, his claims are absolutely nonsensical.
This answer doesn't satisfy me.

I want to see a rational response that isn't emotionally driven or based on the principal of simply adhering to an ideal.
Looks like you're just gonna have to take Verbatim's side, because I can't find rational explanations of irrational claims. Coffee isn't bad and doesn't make someone moronic for drinking it, and if you're having doubts about it then I don't know what to tell you.
Having doubts about what?

I just want to see his actual reasoning.

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:14:51 PM »
These claims are ridiculous, I guess anyone who drinks coffee for the sole purpose of waking up in the morning is a moron
Yes.

Caffeine is EXTREMELY unhealthy, and you're no better than a crackhead if you drink it in my eyes.
Except coffee in moderation is healthy.
It doesn't matter if it is. It's still caffeine, so you still shouldn't drink it.
Wait what is the reasoning behind this? It's not psychoactive, and it's not harmful. Where is the logic?
There's is no logic, his claims are absolutely nonsensical.
This answer doesn't satisfy me.

I want to see a rational response that isn't emotionally driven or based on the principal of simply adhering to an ideal.

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 03:07:51 PM »
These claims are ridiculous, I guess anyone who drinks coffee for the sole purpose of waking up in the morning is a moron
Yes.

Caffeine is EXTREMELY unhealthy, and you're no better than a crackhead if you drink it in my eyes.
Except coffee in moderation is healthy.
It doesn't matter if it is. It's still caffeine, so you still shouldn't drink it.
Wait what is the reasoning behind this? It's not psychoactive, and it's not harmful. Where is the logic?

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 02:02:33 PM »
There's absolutely no way out of it--you're a fucking moron if you use any drug ever for recreational purposes.
Also, I want to point out that generally people don't go looking to experience ego death for recreation. It's more so a spiritual process for people.

If you try to induce ego death with the intent of 'having fun' then you're making a mistake.
I agree, I've never heard anyone say "I cant wait to experience ego death", it's usually just a side effect brought up unintentionally.
Actually, a lot of people do go through with it willingly. Whether to learn something about who/what they are, or to overcome some issue they have like depression, addiction etc. there are many reasons people try to experience it.

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:45:59 PM »
There's absolutely no way out of it--you're a fucking moron if you use any drug ever for recreational purposes.
Also, I want to point out that generally people don't go looking to experience ego death for recreation. It's more so a spiritual process for people.

If you try to induce ego death with the intent of 'having fun' then you're making a mistake.

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:43:53 PM »
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In (descriptions of) psychedelic experiences, the term is used synonymously with ego-loss,[7][8][1][9] to refer to (temporary) loss of one's sense of self due to the use of psychedelics.
That sounds legitimately terrifying. Why would anyone want that?
It's more so the loss of individual identity. The sense of self is often said to sort of expand actually, to things beyond the body or the mind. Which is where you get people's accounts of experiencing 'oneness' with the universe or reality.
If you were trying to answer his question, you didn't do that.
I was trying to clarify what ego death is, not answer why one would want to experience it.

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:32:58 PM »
That sounds legitimately terrifying. Why would anyone want that?

Quote
In (descriptions of) psychedelic experiences, the term is used synonymously with ego-loss,[7][8][1][9] to refer to (temporary) loss of one's sense of self due to the use of psychedelics.
It's more so the loss of individual identity. The sense of self is often said to sort of expand actually, to things beyond the body or the mind. Which is where you get people's accounts of experiencing 'oneness' with the universe or reality.

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The Flood / Re: Do you believe ego death is a real phenomenon?
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:30:05 PM »
From all accounts I've seen. Certainly. The ego is rather fragile, actually. A little bit of DMT and it shatters like glass.

Not only that, I believe meditation can bring about ego death as well. The self immolating monk is strong evidence for me in that regard.

To be able to enter a state of meditation so deep that all sensation of the body is eliminated to the point that a monk can sit perfectly still, absolutely unflinching, while burning alive tells me that there is more to who we are than just the ego, which is a condition of perception.

I think quieting the mind and separating from ego is actually very beneficial for a person. Research has already shown that consistent meditation has the ability to reduce the aging process of the body significantly, and aside from that, the separation of ego leads to clarity and a perspective of minimized bias, which is the path to greater wisdom of course.

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The Flood / Re: I can't relate to you geeks smh
« on: February 14, 2017, 03:36:31 PM »
I think the most relate-able thing I have with peeps on sep7agon is that I'm a loser.

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The Flood / Re: Wait...Vader is Luke's father
« on: February 12, 2017, 06:23:29 PM »
am I on facebook

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 10, 2017, 11:00:04 PM »
Frontal face practice. Getting proportions down is so tricky

just do sketches of the whole body separately
I need a larger sketchbook. Drawing too small gets difficult for me, I'm never satisfied with what I've drawn, and I lose motivation. =/

I'd have enough space digitally, and I need to practice it, but I get so turned off from how much less clean my lines are with a tablet.

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The Flood / Re: Let's see your computer wallpaper
« on: February 08, 2017, 09:18:10 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 08, 2017, 06:29:11 PM »
One of my favorites from you^^

Frontal face practice. Getting proportions down is so tricky, but it's amazing how well flipping an image in reverse can show you your mistakes.



I think the shoulders are still too small. =/

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The Flood / Re: If you care about anyone else's height, kys
« on: February 08, 2017, 05:15:42 PM »
Class and Jive have dug so far down the rabbit holes of their respective sides that they've become actual parodies. They're like living satire.

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The Flood / Re: If you care about anyone else's height, kys
« on: February 08, 2017, 05:13:30 PM »
People take the manlet thing seriously?
People take any of this at all seriously?

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 07, 2017, 10:28:30 PM »
Word I do see that you've spent more time looking at the a reference and trying to emulate it with some of those. Practice that method of seeing what you're trying to draw more and you will improve significantly. Remember, don't just draw how you imagine something looks like, try to draw how it actually looks.

yeah, some of those photos are from memory/i made them up, which i find to be significantly harder.

copying from an existing artists work is much easier but also garners better results.
If you really want to progress with learning forms, especially with anatomy, don't be afraid to trace. It's a great way to help you remember forms and to build the muscle memory to emulate them on your own.

Just make sure you give credit to the original artist or photographer if you decide to share.

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 07, 2017, 09:45:44 PM »
Word I do see that you've spent more time looking at the a reference and trying to emulate it with some of those. Practice that method of seeing what you're trying to draw more and you will improve significantly. Remember, don't just draw how you imagine something looks like, try to draw how it actually looks.

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 07, 2017, 08:53:46 PM »
oh, i see. no i was going for stylistic rather than realistic, it's a lot easier. i have some realistic stuff ive done if you wanna see that.
I encourage any artwork people have to done to be posted in this thread.

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 07, 2017, 08:46:01 PM »
first time posting itt

been trying to draw everyday for awhile but i get really busy

threw this together in the last hour or so

thoughts?



im looking for technical advice if you can, i have very little natural artistic ability.
Should work on developing the skill of emulating form. Artists, especially with realism, have this method of seeing whatever it is they're trying to draw that allows them to accurately emulate it. Anyone can learn to see things this way, it's just a matter of practicing it.

A big mistake beginner artists make is that they tend to draw how they imagine something looks like instead of paying close attention to it and drawing how it actually looks.

There's really good book on this called "Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain" by Betty Edwards. Idk it might be possible to find a .pdf of it somewhere. She manages to take some pretty bad artists and help them become rather good over a span of a couple of months (some even in a single month I believe.) just by teaching them how to observe how things look in the real world, remember it, and accurately emulate it with drawing.

so what are you saying about my drawing? that it isnt realistic enough? just curious, your advice was a little hard to gather.
I'm speaking generally about your skill level. The drawing itself isn't realistic, but I don't know whether or not you want to do realistic or stylized artwork. What I'm trying to say is that, whether or not you want to do realism or stylistic work, learning to accurately emulate form will improve your work immensely. It's one of the fundamentals of drawing.

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The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: February 07, 2017, 08:08:39 PM »
first time posting itt

been trying to draw everyday for awhile but i get really busy

threw this together in the last hour or so

thoughts?



im looking for technical advice if you can, i have very little natural artistic ability.
Should work on developing the skill of emulating form. Artists, especially with realism, have this method of seeing whatever it is they're trying to draw that allows them to accurately emulate it. Anyone can learn to see things this way, it's just a matter of practicing it.

A big mistake beginner artists make is that they tend to draw how they imagine something looks like instead of paying close attention to it and drawing how it actually looks.

There's really good book on this called "Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain" by Betty Edwards. Idk it might be possible to find a .pdf of it somewhere. She manages to take some pretty bad artists and help them become rather good over a span of a couple of months (some even in a single month I believe.) just by teaching them how to observe how things look in the real world, remember it, and accurately emulate it with drawing.

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The Flood / Re: If there's no god...
« on: February 06, 2017, 03:11:52 PM »
God aside, why would anything at all exist if there was nothing to be aware of it?

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The Flood / Re: Music thread!
« on: February 05, 2017, 01:26:35 AM »
Holy shit you people listen to trash.

This nigga is steezy af.

YouTube

Stop trying to act black, caveman.
coward alts go home

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The Flood / Re: Music thread!
« on: February 04, 2017, 10:21:45 PM »
This nigga is steezy af.

YouTube


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The Flood / Re: 2 jobs?
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:21:48 PM »
My job is be to be the caretaker of my disabled grandmother and to occasionally do yardwork or paint furniture for my family.

Basically I'm a deadbeat.

Props to anyone busting their ass with two jobs.
Hey been a caretaker is hard work.  Good on you man
tbh it's a lot easier than it may sound. It's certainly not worth getting paid for. I do it because it's family and I get a roof over my head and food on the table.

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Serious / Re: #MiloAtCali canceled - Violent Rioting
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:19:51 PM »
If an idea is wrong then it is easily undermined by the truth.

Except this doesn't happen in reality. Creationists engage in debate with scientists all the time, and there are still creationists. Climate-change denial is common in US legislation. Cults and religions proliferate because there are many credulous people out there. People will pick and choose what information is significant to affirm their beliefs.

This frame of mind resembles thinking the invisible hand of the free market can magically solve monopolization. It's an oversimplification and symptomatic of a lack of understanding.
Rest assured, truth will undermine ignorance, but I don't mean to say that everyone is going to accept the truth. it's unfortunate, but that is why I believe in teaching people to be critical thinkers, and to question the teachings of others, because it will make them seekers of truth and that is something this world needs more of.
Wishful thinking. That doesn't really fix issues presented by the fact people are ignorant here and now. Legislation is being passed to pander to these people. It'd be like saying we should have just let slavery "phase" out in the South over time, without any tangible time table or realistic expectation as to when that cultural shift will happen, you end up just sounding like an apologist.
You can't change a generation that is unwilling to change. We should enable the upcoming generations with the ability to be critical thinkers regardless of whether or not it will make a difference now or in the future.

As for this generation, so long as people are not infringing upon the rights of others then let them be. You want more liberal or scientifically minded legislatures? Inform the public and get them elected. Do what you have to to spread awareness of the truth. But don't censor opponents and make them martyrs for their cause.

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The Flood / Re: 2 jobs?
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:11:47 PM »
My job is be to be the caretaker of my disabled grandmother and to occasionally do yardwork or paint furniture for my family.

Basically I'm a deadbeat.

Props to anyone busting their ass with two jobs.

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Serious / Re: #MiloAtCali canceled - Violent Rioting
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:07:07 PM »
If an idea is wrong then it is easily undermined by the truth.

Except this doesn't happen in reality. Creationists engage in debate with scientists all the time, and there are still creationists. Climate-change denial is common in US legislation. Cults and religions proliferate because there are many credulous people out there. People will pick and choose what information is significant to affirm their beliefs.

This frame of mind resembles thinking the invisible hand of the free market can magically solve monopolization. It's an oversimplification and symptomatic of a lack of understanding.
Rest assured, truth will undermine ignorance, but I don't mean to say that everyone is going to accept the truth. it's unfortunate, but that is why I believe in teaching people to be critical thinkers, to practice mindfulness, and to question the teachings of others because it will make them seekers of truth and that is something this world needs more of.

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Serious / Re: #MiloAtCali canceled - Violent Rioting
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:03:18 PM »
I think there's a clear difference between the emotional response from someone yelling,"bomb!" in an airport and someone yelling "nigger!" Fear for one's life isn't the same thing as rage, and I don't think people should be held as accountable for fearing for their lives as they should be for behaving violent out of rage.
What they share in common is their capacity to be controlled. You can fear for your life, but not panic. You can be pissed off, but not become violent. I've feared for my life before--not panicking did me wonders.
Yes I understand that panic and rage are both very difficult to control when they've set in. But I do believe those enraged should still be held accountable for their actions and not the person that enraged them.

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