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The Flood / Re: Thoughts on Cybernetic Military Implements
« on: October 26, 2014, 12:50:43 PM »
Relax Jim. I'm sure Sandtrap meant no slight.
"And that's when the attack comes, not from the front, but from the side.
One Goji, you didn't even know was there."
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It's hardly the best that it can be made. As you've said it, our bodies are products of evolution. i.e. mutations, changes which are seeded based on positive reaction to environmental stimuli.
What holds merit?
Why? I know you explain it in the next line, but that's basically begging the question.
Why is it important? Are you referring to intrinsic importance? Extrinsic? Who is the observer to create valuation of importance here?
Appeal to nature here. All appeals to nature like this can easily be defeated by, well, other appeals to nature: what if the logical endpoint of evolution is to get to a point where a species is intelligent enough to create synthetic replacements?
Answer: You can't operate on one hypothetical without looking at the other.
I would say that "abuse" of it wouldn't be a bad thing.
Replication isn't the purpose- revision is.
You negate the problems of associated with flesh. You upgrade your body. And you upgrade your mind.
Erm... you do realize that feelings are simply neurotransmitters traveling through axons throughout your body and registering electrical impulses right? And that prosthetic arms are being developed which can perfectly replicate the sensation of touch as well, correct? If you truly want feeling, it can still be done with cybernetics.
And perhaps we can replace it with something better. Something more cerebral.
I'm ready.
Then again, I'm super crazy supportive when it comes to synthetics/AI/H+ movements in general.
Okay. Let's just sit down a minute here. I knew this was going to lure you of all people here.
"And that's when the attack comes, not from the front, but from the side.
One Goji, you didn't even know was there."
XD
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Look at your body. What is it? It's the result of a very, very long line of evolution. A process that's slowly been perfected to the best that it can be made over a very long period of slow, gradual, natural adjustments.
It's hardly the best that it can be made. As you've said it, our bodies are products of evolution. i.e. mutations, changes which are seeded based on positive reaction to environmental stimuli.
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But still holds merit.
What holds merit?
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We fight to survive. To keep going. And that means, that life, the life we hold, is important.
Why? I know you explain it in the next line, but that's basically begging the question.
Why is it important? Are you referring to intrinsic importance? Extrinsic? Who is the observer to create valuation of importance here?
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Because if it wasn't, why would we fight so hard to keep it?
Appeal to nature here. All appeals to nature like this can easily be defeated by, well, other appeals to nature: what if the logical endpoint of evolution is to get to a point where a species is intelligent enough to create synthetic replacements?
Answer: You can't operate on one hypothetical without looking at the other.
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You would abuse it.
I would say that "abuse" of it wouldn't be a bad thing.
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Let alone perfectly replicating them into a synthetic counterpart.
Replication isn't the purpose- revision is.
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What happens, when you take away what you have, that already functions well on it's own? What happens, when you replace it with something that functions better, but lacks the spark and the feeling that only a hand, or an arm will ever provide?
You negate the problems of associated with flesh. You upgrade your body. And you upgrade your mind.
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You lose control. You lose feeling.
Erm... you do realize that feelings are simply neurotransmitters traveling through axons throughout your body and registering electrical impulses right? And that prosthetic arms are being developed which can perfectly replicate the sensation of touch as well, correct? If you truly want feeling, it can still be done with cybernetics.
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Your survival instinct, the will to survive another day, vanishes.
And perhaps we can replace it with something better. Something more cerebral.
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And when that happens, every door is open to all the darkest things that lurk in our heads.
I'm ready.
Then again, I'm super crazy supportive when it comes to synthetics/AI/H+ movements in general.