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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: September 23, 2014, 09:17:44 AM »
Meh. New picture using shitty laptop camera. Bored......waiting for class

Spoiler

Strange. If you didn't act like a dick, you might be semi-attractive.

Semi.
Pictures do not do me justice. I'm far better looking IRL

Your personality is the detracting feature.

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The Flood / Re: Bringing Back a Classic
« on: September 22, 2014, 03:33:13 PM »
Fuck you and fuck this thread.

I thought you loved me

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Serious / Re: Are mentally ill people morally responsible?
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:46:59 PM »
Yep.

Whats stopping me from killing multiple people and then claiming I'm "not in my right mind"?

Because you would be required to undergo multiple psychiatric tests from numerous officials.

Google exists. I could easily look up how to accomplish the signs and symptoms. Anything mental can easily be faked.

It's laughable you think it is so easy.

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The Flood / Re: Bringing Back a Classic
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:15:16 PM »
Does .999 equal 1?
No. .999... repeating does.

1/3 = 0.333...
2/3 = 0.666...
1/3 + 2/3 = 3/3, or 0.999... or 1.

I assumed it would be implied that the .999 is repeating, as it's rather hard to express that in a thread title.

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The Flood / Re: Bringing Back a Classic
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:13:08 PM »
Oh shut up.

Answer the question fgt.

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The Flood / Bringing Back a Classic
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:11:11 PM »
Does .999 (Repeating) equal 1?

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Serious / Re: Are mentally ill people morally responsible?
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:09:42 PM »
Yep.

Whats stopping me from killing multiple people and then claiming I'm "not in my right mind"?

Because you would be required to undergo multiple psychiatric tests from numerous officials.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:07:37 PM »
Meh. New picture using shitty laptop camera. Bored......waiting for class

Spoiler

Strange. If you didn't act like a dick, you might be semi-attractive.

Semi.

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Serious / Re: Do you hold your ideological and practical views separate?
« on: September 22, 2014, 09:54:18 AM »
In most cases.

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The Flood / Re: Important PSA
« on: September 22, 2014, 09:50:07 AM »


After lunch, Penis Inspection Day will be held by Nurse Kinder. Group A will be expected to be in the school's auditorium at 12:00pm:

-Dustbin
-Icy
-Meta
-Casper
-Gasai


I didn't sign up for this.

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Serious / Re: What Should the US Drinking Age Be?
« on: September 21, 2014, 09:59:11 PM »
Haha not my problem!

Seriously though, 21? And they call the UK the nanny state...
Unfortunately our government likes to listen to menopausal soccer moms a lot.
HILLARY 2016
Don't even say that ironically dude. Someone might see it and think it's a good idea.
You and I both know it's going to happen no matter what we do.
I don't want to acknowledge that.
Republicans are going to win in 2016.

There's a huge split in the Democratic party.
Is it as big a thing as the tea party was at first?
You basically have the Clinton type Democrats and the Obama type Democrats

They don't like each other.

Same could be said about the Republican Party - you've got the Ted Cruz Republicans, the Rand Paul Republicans, and the John Boehner Republicans.

Really, it's going to depend on which side is willing to unite. And frankly, the Republican's have done amazingly well of that recently.

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Serious / Re: What Should the US Drinking Age Be?
« on: September 21, 2014, 09:01:49 PM »

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Serious / Re: What Should the US Drinking Age Be?
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:17:06 PM »
If you can serve, drive or get married then you can have a fucking drink.

You can get married as young as 12 with parental consent, 16 without.

Shall we make the drinking age 16?

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Serious / What Should the US Drinking Age Be?
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:13:29 PM »


Image for reference.


Discuss. Should the US drinking age be lowered? Raised? Kept at 21?

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The Flood / Re: Does this forum have an annual Penis Inspection Day?
« on: September 21, 2014, 02:07:15 PM »
Who's examining, RC or Dustin?

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Serious / Re: Dad Forces Son to Drink Alcohol until Unconcious with No Pulse
« on: September 20, 2014, 08:58:08 AM »
My dad made me smoke a whole pack of cigs.
Your father sounds like a great guy.

He is.

You act like other parents don't do this. It was a common practice  back in the 70's and 80's.

Because practices thirty/fourty years ago have certainly not been discredited at all, and are totally necessary today.

Yep. It still works like a charm apparently. I haven't smoked another cig since that day.

I forget who I'm dealing with here in this conversation.


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Serious / Re: Dad Forces Son to Drink Alcohol until Unconcious with No Pulse
« on: September 19, 2014, 08:06:38 PM »
My dad made me smoke a whole pack of cigs.
Your father sounds like a great guy.

He is.

You act like other parents don't do this. It was a common practice  back in the 70's and 80's.

Because practices thirty/fourty years ago have certainly not been discredited at all, and are totally necessary today.

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Serious / Dad Forces Son to Drink Alcohol until Unconcious with No Pulse
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:08:53 AM »
And people continue to defend the guy

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Police say an East Tennessee father forced his son to drink alcohol Saturday night until he passed out as a punishment after he caught the 15-year-old drinking.

WBIR-TV reports Sweetwater police have charged 35-year-old Mark Allen Hughes Tuesday with aggravated child abuse and neglect and with contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

A witness told police that Hughes gave his son vodka shots and said, "Take it. Take it. Drink up. You’re going to learn," WATE.com reported.

The station reported police were called to the teen's home by witnesses who said Hughes forced his son to play a drinking game. Officers said when they arrived, the boy had no pulse and they performed CPR until an ambulance arrived.

The teen's grandmother told WATE.com that the boy was placed on a ventilator. She told the station he has been released from the hospital and is doing well.

Sweetwater Police Chief Eddie Byrum says the case will be prosecuted to the fullest.

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The Flood / Re: CAN'T TOUCH THIS
« on: September 18, 2014, 11:01:07 AM »

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Serious / Re: The day is upon us for us Scots.
« on: September 18, 2014, 07:56:02 AM »
If I were Scottish, I would be voting no. Not because I don't support your push for independence - there are still far too many variables and questions, especially when it comes to the economy, that I would want answers to before pushing is off the brink.

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Serious / ISIS Draws a Steady Stream of Recruits from Turkey
« on: September 17, 2014, 01:16:23 PM »
Found this to be an Interesting Article

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ANKARA, Turkey — Having spent most of his youth as a drug addict in one of the poorest neighborhoods of Turkey’s capital, Can did not think he had much to lose when he was smuggled into Syria with 10 of his childhood friends to join the world’s most extreme jihadist group.

After 15 days at a training camp in the Syrian city of Raqqa, the de facto headquarters of the group, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, the 27-year-old Can was assigned to a fighting unit. He said he shot two men and participated in a public execution. It was only after he buried a man alive that he was told he had become a full ISIS fighter.

“When you fight over there, it’s like being in a trance,” said Can, who asked to be referred to only by his middle name for fear of reprisal. “Everyone shouts, ‘God is the greatest,’ which gives you divine strength to kill the enemy without being fazed by blood or splattered guts,” he said.

Hundreds of foreign fighters, including some from Europe and the United States, have joined the ranks of ISIS in its self-proclaimed caliphate that sweeps over vast territories of Iraq and Syria. But one of the biggest source of recruits is neighboring Turkey, a NATO member with an undercurrent of Islamist discontent.

As many as 1,000 Turks have joined ISIS, according to Turkish news media reports and government officials here. Recruits cite the group’s ideological appeal to disaffected youths as well as the money it pays fighters from its flush coffers. The C.I.A. estimated last week that the group had from 20,000 to 31,500 fighters in Iraq and Syria.

The United States has put heavy pressure on Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, to better police Turkey’s 560-mile-long border with Syria. Washington wants Turkey to stanch the flow of foreign fighters and to stop ISIS from exporting the oil it produces on territory it holds in Syria and Iraq.

So far, Mr. Erdogan has resisted pleas to take aggressive steps against the group, citing the fate of 49 Turkish hostages ISIS has held since militants took over Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, in June. Turkey declined to sign a communiqué last Thursday that committed a number of regional states to take “appropriate” new measures to counter ISIS, frustrating American officials.

For years, Turkey has striven to set an example of Islamic democracy in the Middle East through its “zero problems with neighbors” prescription, the guiding principle of Ahmet Davutoglu, who recently became Turkey’s prime minister after serving for years as foreign minister. But miscalculations have left the country isolated and vulnerable in a region now plagued by war.

Turkey has been criticized at home and abroad for an open border policy in the early days of the Syrian uprising. Critics say that policy was crucial to the rise of ISIS. Turkey had bet that rebel forces would quickly topple the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, but as the war evolved, the extremists have benefited from the chaos.

Turkish fighters recruited by ISIS say they identify more with the extreme form of Islamic governance practiced by ISIS than with the rule of the Turkish governing party, which has its roots in a more moderate form of Islam.

Hacibayram, a ramshackle neighborhood in the heart of Ankara’s tourist district, has morphed into an ISIS recruitment hub over the past year. Locals say up to 100 residents have gone to fight for the group in Syria.

“It began when a stranger with a long, coarse beard started showing up in the neighborhood,” recalled Arif Akbas, the neighborhood’s elected headman of 30 years, who oversees local affairs. “The next thing we knew, all the drug addicts started going to the mosque.”

One of the first men to join ISIS from the neighborhood was Ozguzhan Gozlemcioglu, known to his ISIS counterparts as Muhammad Salef. In three years, he has risen to the status of a regional commander in Raqqa, and locals say he frequently travels in and out of Ankara, each time making sure to take back new recruits with him.

Mehmet Arabaci, a Hacibayram resident who assists with distributing government aid to the poor, said younger members of the local community found online pictures of Mr. Gozlemcioglu with weapons on the field and immediately took interest. Children have started to spend more time online since the municipality knocked down the only school in the area last year as part of an aggressive urban renewal project.

“There are now seven mosques in the vicinity, but not one school,” Mr. Arabaci said. “The lives of children here are so vacant that they find any excuse to be sucked into action.”

Playing in the rubble of a demolished building on a recent hot day here, two young boys staged a fight with toy guns.

When a young Syrian girl walked past them, they pounced on her, knocking her to the floor and pushing their toy rifles against her head. “I’m going to kill you, whore,” one of the boys shouted before launching into sound effects that imitated a machine gun.

The other boy quickly lost interest and walked away. “Toys are so boring,” he said. “I have real guns upstairs.”

The boy’s father, who owns a nearby market, said he fully supported ISIS’s vision for Islamic governance and hoped to send the boy and his other sons to Raqqa when they are older.

“The diluted form of Islam practiced in Turkey is an insult to the religion,” he said giving only his initials, T.C., to protect his identity. “In the Islamic State you lead a life of discipline as dictated by God, and then you are rewarded. Children there have parks and swimming pools. Here, my children play in the dirt.”

But when Can returned from Raqqa after three months with two of the original 10 friends he had left with, he was full of regret.

“ISIS is brutal,” he said. “They interpret the Quran for their own gains. God never ordered Muslims to kill Muslims.”

Still, he said many were drawn to the group for financial reasons, as it appealed to disadvantaged youth in less prosperous parts of Turkey. “When you fight, they offer $150 a day. Then everything else is free,” he said. “Even the shopkeepers give you free products out of fear.”

ISIS recruitment in Hacibayram caught the news media’s attention in June when a local 14-year-old recruit came back to the neighborhood after he was wounded in a shelling attack in Raqqa. The boy’s father, Yusuf, said that the government had made no formal inquiry into the episode and that members of the local community had started to condemn what they saw as inaction by the authorities.

“There are clearly recruitment centers being set up in Ankara and elsewhere in Turkey, but the government doesn’t seem to care,” said Aaron Stein, a fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a London-based think tank. “It seems their hatred for Bashar al-Assad and their overly nuanced view of what radical Islam is has led to a very short- and narrow-sighted policy that has serious implications.”

The Interior Ministry and National Police Department did not respond to requests for comment.

On a recent afternoon in Ankara, Mr. Erdogan and Mr. Davutoglu came to pray at the historic Haci Bayram Veli Mosque, just over 100 yards away from an underground mosque used by a radical Salafi sect known to oversee ISIS recruits.

When news of their visit reached the neighborhood, several residents scurried down the steep hill hoping to catch an opportunity to raise the issue.

At the same time, a 10-year-old boy lingered in his family’s shop, laughing at the crowd rushing to get a glimpse of the two leaders. He had just listened to a long lecture from his father celebrating ISIS’ recent beheading of James Foley, an American journalist. “He was an agent and deserved to die,” the man told his son, half-smirking through his thick beard.

To which the boy replied, “Journalists, infidels of this country; we’ll kill them all.”


Tl;Dr: ISIS is recruiting a steady amount of recruits, and whole families, from various areas around Turkey - including Ankara. Thanks to their open border, it's easy to do so. Turkish leaders deny this is happening.

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Serious / Re: Opinions on laissez faire economics
« on: September 16, 2014, 01:08:13 PM »
I'm going to pose a question for you all.

Name one place in the entire world that is 100% Laissez-Faire, capitalistic, no regulation.

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The Flood / Re: *does something shitty*
« on: September 16, 2014, 10:31:06 AM »
*makes a pointless thread*

/mad max logic

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The Flood / Re: Member rating thread
« on: September 16, 2014, 10:28:26 AM »
Rate me pls

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Serious / Re: Opinions on laissez faire economics
« on: September 16, 2014, 10:26:23 AM »
I'm 100% laissez-faire.

Welcome back to 1900.

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Serious / Re: Opinions on laissez faire economics
« on: September 15, 2014, 07:40:27 PM »
So, do you support any laws that aim to regulate hours, wages, and who can work?

Who can work? Nope


So, you don't believe there should be child labor laws?
they're aren't abysmal working conditions like the last time we had child labor.

...That's generally because of standards set in place by the government, preventing those overcrowded sweatshops with long hours, wouldn't you say?


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Serious / Re: Opinions on laissez faire economics
« on: September 15, 2014, 07:30:13 PM »
So, do you support any laws that aim to regulate hours, wages, and who can work?

Who can work? Nope


So, you don't believe there should be child labor laws?

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Serious / Re: Opinions on laissez faire economics
« on: September 15, 2014, 06:54:57 PM »
So, do you support any laws that aim to regulate hours, wages, and who can work?

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Serious / Re: I do not think going into Iraq a third time is a good idea.
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:40:22 AM »
The destruction of ISIS has been one of the most persuasive justification we've had in recent years.

At the absolute least we need a combination of air support, military advice and special forces on the ground in order to get this done.
Or we just fuck off from other people's lands and become self sufficient.
Sorry, what?
All I'm saying is we NEED to stop depending on foreign oil and getting involved in the matters of other countries. It's not our business.

I'm Sorry, what?

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Serious / Re: What to you think about this?
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:38:58 AM »
When it comes to religious law, that shouldn't a basis of any governmental law anywhere.

When it comes to deny rights to women, LGBT citizens, people of other races, etc. - that is where I draw the line.

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