Great Britain and The United States of America.

See, while your countries have names that are understandable and usable, aka, "Britain is fucking great because it's Great fucking Britain," or, "Son, this here is the United States of America.

Or, like this thread, "Hur hur, what's so Great about Britain?"

And then there's me.

Canada.

No "the's." No, "United Provinces of Canada."

Just....Canada. You couldn't even say united provinces of Canada because you'd have to say,

"The United Provinces of Canada plus the three Territories."

Fuck.

Wait this was serious? I thought it was a joke.

There's a really hard rule to follow about stuff like this. Unless the poster explicitly states "Lol jk I'm just fuckin' with ya" at the end of a post like this, then you take it serious.

You always take it serious.

Which is why people who fuck around with shit like that and make jokes are fucking sacks of old sacks. You do not ever, let something like this slip under the rug.

And more importantly, put a wager on it.

On one side of the coin, it could be messing around. On another side, said person could be dead because of inaction.

Care to take a guess on which side of the wager you don't ever want to see?

Gentlemen! Good news. Whiteflame's okay-ish. Just got a message from him in a PM.

You need to stop hating on lurkers.

No, I don't need to stop. It'd just be preferable to you. I'm not one for caring much about other people's preferences, mind you.

Why.

You green coloured default mother fuckers were the bane of matchmaking in Halo 3.

This isn't canon.

Oh but it should be.

Guys. I know numbers are helpful and all that. But I think we're fucked here. I came into this thread a minute or two after it was made. Sent a pm to whiteflame and then to cheat.

I added him on live in case he was there.

Off on both accounts. Cheat can get IPs as far as I know but other than that I think we're actually shit out of fucking luck here. He only posted this and stayed around for a minute or two at best.

I hope this is a joke. But I get the feeling it's not.

2 days straight. From my province Saskatchewan, through Alberta, to Vancouver Island in British Columbia. Drove.

Record for passenger seat was three days straight. Again. From my province to British Columbia.

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 21, 2015, 10:32:16 PM

Except that the oldest friend I know is 70, being my sister's husband. Fuck you, I break most of the rules.

I am sorry.

You officially have zero friends.

Could actually be regarded as true. Quiet lives 6 hours hours away like the flaming homosexual that he is. Older guy in his 70's lives out on a farm.

I see neither of them in person very much.

Except that the oldest friend I know is 70, being my sister's husband. Fuck you, I break most of the rules.

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 21, 2015, 06:41:48 PM

There's something else important to talk about here. And it's best not to wait. Saying, "ho ho ho, pick up a phone if you feel like offing yourself" is easy to do.

Do you know how much effort it took for me to stop leaning over the rails? Even with the knowledge of what I was doing, and what it would cause, I had to fight not to let go. Because when you're essentially past the point of no return, very little can divert you.

Very little can motivate you, and everything around you de-motivates you. When I realized that if I jumped, that I'd be a selfish bastard, I didn't feel good. The only thing it made me do is to continue wanting to jump. That's what depression does at it's lowest point.

It reflects everything back at you.

And after I climbed down from the tower, it took me five days to open up to somebody. Five days of fighting with myself internally to do it.

The point is, when you can talk about how bad you're feeling, you aren't quite at the end of your rope yet. You could be close. But not quite past the point of almost no return. When you hit that point, you're not going to want to talk. You're not going to want to pick up a phone.

So that means we can talk a little bit about stalling things.

Depression, and the end result at its core, is caused by unhappiness. Even in bi-polar people. Even more so in bi-polar people because their emotions are intense. They can be fine, and then the next minute, down. Far, far down.

Unhappiness is caused by not being satisfied.

What causes not being satisfied?

Things not going your way. Stress. Stagnation.

Stagnation is the very root of unhappiness becase when something is stagnant, it is not changing. We as people, are naturally inclined to changes. A changing environment, a change of pace.

To give an example.

Part of the reason why I am so much of a mess right now, is because a huge part of my life is stagnant.

I've been cooped up into a house for roughly 5-6 months now. It's too cold outside to do anything, and I'm deprived of sunlight. My body, physically is degrading both because of winter effects of no activity, and the meds from the doc. And most importantly, I am trying to find somebody to call a friend in my vicinity.

It doesn't matter how capable I am of spending my time even if I enjoy it. The fact that I've been waking up every day to those 4 key things now for quite some time without having visible, forwards progress and only backwards, is leaving its mark on me.

So, essentially, what can potentially divert, and remove or subside depression is change.

Positive change.

It could be learning how to do something new that you enjoy. It can be traveling. It could be meeting new people you get along with.

But the key thing here is, and it's something that you have to take seriously because you have a rapidly closing window, is to pin down what you are unhappy about.

Pin down why you're dissatisfied with your life and what's in it. Find the thing that makes you unhappy, the thing that is staying negative, and then do your absolute best to reverse it.

Go to a concilor if you have to. They can help you with finding out why you're unhappy.

The problem with really finding out why you're unhappy revolves around your sub-conscious. And dealing with the sub-conscious parts of yourself are not easy to do because they're hidden.

Don't wait until you hit the point of no return. See that you're heading there and put your own brakes on first.

That is by far the best advice I have read so far. My life is currently stagnating, I feel like I'm never going to leave this city for good.

Then you have to change that and you have to find a way how. And that's not easy. Cities are designed to be traps. And here's why.

A city is so appealing to most, because of conveinence. You can find food, you can find shelter, you can find technology, and things that you enjoy like TV, easy access to water, power, food, internet. Cities are founded on the principle of ease of access.

But, in order to benifit from what you want in a city, you have to pay for it. So, in order to pay for it, you acquire a job. Which is another trap. Because you become dependant on the influx of money that the job is giving you, no matter how much, or how small.

And the bills, the costs for everything, are fine tuned well enough so that you have just barely enough to make it. Barely enough to pay for it. Now, cities aren't such a bad thing, if that's your thing. But the problem is always monetary. And that's how they trap people, because in order to function, a city needs people working.

It's a carefully executed bargain.

It's how much a person is willing to give up of their time, in order to have access to all the wonderful things they want. That's what money is, and that's what having a job is.

Now, some people save up. And they move to a new city. A fresh location. Some people get jobs that pay a lot in return for more of their time and focus, and then take vacations at the end of the year. Some people have a partner. Arguably a partner makes the world more tolerable.

But the real key here, is finding something you enjoy doing, and monetizing it.

Because personally, I don't wager you'd do well in an environment like mine.

And that's the truth. There's city life. And then there's small town/out in the boonies life.

Of course, there is the life of being rich. All doors become open to you the richer you are. But in order to be rich, you have to give a lot. Your time, your focus, your energy.

Your absolute best bet is one of two things.

Find a job that you like, in which case it is no longer a job but a hobby.

Or find a hobby that you can monetize.

The only actual way to beat the system at it's own game is to play a part of it. But do it smart. Don't aim for some shitty retail job and go hur dur money.

That's an empty life, and one of being illusioned. Find something you really enjoy, or you're really good at doing, and push it.

Or, pack your shit up and abandon it completely. Hitchhiking to a new place. But, that's not safe these days. The world's a lot meaner.

Basically, focus on what you enjoy. Find something you're good at. And then go for it.

To me, you seem like somebody who would fare better in a city.

But your life will change if you're doing something you enjoy and making money from it. And it'll change exceptionally so if you find a partner to share it with.

There's something else important to talk about here. And it's best not to wait. Saying, "ho ho ho, pick up a phone if you feel like offing yourself" is easy to do.

Do you know how much effort it took for me to stop leaning over the rails? Even with the knowledge of what I was doing, and what it would cause, I had to fight not to let go. Because when you're essentially past the point of no return, very little can divert you.

Very little can motivate you, and everything around you de-motivates you. When I realized that if I jumped, that I'd be a selfish bastard, I didn't feel good. The only thing it made me do is to continue wanting to jump. That's what depression does at it's lowest point.

It reflects everything back at you.

And after I climbed down from the tower, it took me five days to open up to somebody. Five days of fighting with myself internally to do it.

The point is, when you can talk about how bad you're feeling, you aren't quite at the end of your rope yet. You could be close. But not quite past the point of almost no return. When you hit that point, you're not going to want to talk. You're not going to want to pick up a phone.

So that means we can talk a little bit about stalling things.

Depression, and the end result at its core, is caused by unhappiness. Even in bi-polar people. Even more so in bi-polar people because their emotions are intense. They can be fine, and then the next minute, down. Far, far down.

Unhappiness is caused by not being satisfied.

What causes not being satisfied?

Things not going your way. Stress. Stagnation.

Stagnation is the very root of unhappiness becase when something is stagnant, it is not changing. We as people, are naturally inclined to changes. A changing environment, a change of pace.

To give an example.

Part of the reason why I am so much of a mess right now, is because a huge part of my life is stagnant.

I've been cooped up into a house for roughly 5-6 months now. It's too cold outside to do anything, and I'm deprived of sunlight. My body, physically is degrading both because of winter effects of no activity, and the meds from the doc. And most importantly, I am trying to find somebody to call a friend in my vicinity.

It doesn't matter how capable I am of spending my time even if I enjoy it. The fact that I've been waking up every day to those 4 key things now for quite some time without having visible, forwards progress and only backwards, is leaving its mark on me.

So, essentially, what can potentially divert, and remove or subside depression is change.

Positive change.

It could be learning how to do something new that you enjoy. It can be traveling. It could be meeting new people you get along with.

But the key thing here is, and it's something that you have to take seriously because you have a rapidly closing window, is to pin down what you are unhappy about.

Pin down why you're dissatisfied with your life and what's in it. Find the thing that makes you unhappy, the thing that is staying negative, and then do your absolute best to reverse it.

Go to a concilor if you have to. They can help you with finding out why you're unhappy.

The problem with really finding out why you're unhappy revolves around your sub-conscious. And dealing with the sub-conscious parts of yourself are not easy to do because they're hidden.

Don't wait until you hit the point of no return. See that you're heading there and put your own brakes on first.

TL:DR

Keep your head sharp. Watch yourself. And if you fall any farther, pick up a fucking phone and talk. There's suicide hotline numbers all over the fucking place. They're up 24 hours a day because they have to be ready to listen to somebody who needs to talk.

Understand that?

I've essentially cut myself away from my friends because not only am I being a sad sack of fucking potatoes, but because I know that one night, I'm going to really need to talk and they aren't going to be there for me because I have to do things on my own.

Keep some part of your head on straight. Enough that you can pick up a phone and talk to somebody because believe me. You can fix things. You can set things straight. And unlike myself, up here, by myself, you don't have to do it alone either.

The people who work for those services are compassionate. They will be willing to listen, and they will be willing to help you. So if you're feeling so far down that you're walking a really dangerous line, pick up the damn phone and talk.

yes

Meta! My man.

Hail Dagon!