This was a post on bungie.net.

It's a monday. Things are slow on mondays. Everybody's just getting started with the week.

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 08, 2015, 11:22:10 AM

Quote from: ANGER on April 08, 2015, 02:35:23 AM

Cancer is for the weak.

Even though you're joking and you don't particularily take anything seriously. That's insulting. By all means you can insult me all you want because I've dragged my mess all over this fucking site for the past year like an idiot.

But don't insult the dead. Don't insult the other people who've gone through something like this or continue to go through something like this. You know, the entire reason I decided to make this was because I ran odds in my head.

One day somebody else here might have to go through with this. It would be good, if they had a general idea of what they were getting into.

Or even, an understanding so that if they ever deal with somebody going through something like this they can show a little more sympathy.

I'm not insulting the dead, don't worry. But maybe you'd be interested in one of my posts on cancer then: http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=33960.0

I did actually read that post, some time back. Apologies that I don't have much to say or didn't say anything. Progress in study is a good thing.

Good read. DW is generally overlooked, given the nature of the show and its intended audience. I wouldn't have typically expected that level of depth for any disposal character (for lack of a better word), especially given his screen time and only being featured in one episode.

The latest series as a whole seems to have taken a significant turn for the better. It's almost as if they're beginning to take themselves seriously.

The new series has some great undertones to it. It's a little more mature and darker. There's a hell of a lot of undertones dealing with lying, truth, and fear for obvious starters.

A heavy theme on soldiers and the doctor's apparent disliking of them despite questioning himself as to what exactly he is, good, or bad.

I'm actually rather sad that HFM was a disposable character because when you look at him he was done very well.

But....this isn't the united states. There's no such thing as pools in the backyard up here.

I feel like porn bombing this thread.

"Artistic Nudity"

Now, say what you will about the series itself for good or bad. I'd like to take some time to point out a well done character in terms of concept, and acting. And that is,


Half Face Man, as the only title he is known by.

Spoiler Warning from this point on

HFM is a cyborg, or more specifically, originated as a clockwork machine android. Started out as a fully automated machine. The starship this particular machine was aboard time traveled and crash landed on ancient earth. These machines, running on basic protocols, began to break down over time and turned to organic parts to repair and sustain themselves.

Over the millennia following the extinction of the Dinosaurs and the emergance of humanity, HFM, at some point began to change. With the continous addition of Human parts added to himself, his basic programing began to alter.

The clockwork android is an intelligent, learning program. Through repeated exposure to human beings, and the addition of their parts to sustain itself, HFM began to develop a distinct personality and a new directive. Seek the promised land.

The promised land, for lack of any other term is essentially the afterlife. The machine is not aware of what the afterlife is, or even that it exists beyond "death." So pursues the promised land aimlessly while self sustaining itself with human parts.

What makes me appreciate this character so much is the subtle nature of him. At an earlier point in the episode, a dinosaur that is caught and dragged along with the doctors time machine is killed by the HFM and harvested for parts, which is discussed later in the episode and then reveals that this machine has existed for a very, very long time.

Essentially, this machine appears as a villian because it kills in order to sustain itself. But only because it follows its prime directive. That table is immidiately flipped when the machine displays anger, and visible distress when he mentions the dinosaur he killed.

"I killed that beautiful creature for an ounce of optic nerve!"

And later on when the doctor asks how the view is, HFM states that it is beautiful when lookind down upon the city of london.

The machine displays visible regret, and visible anger and stress which hints at an evolution beyond his origins, and yet he is still bound by his core basic programming which is to survive and continue. Eventually through talks with the Doctor, and a conversation that leaves the viewer wondering on if the machine is capable of lying as well, we're left a vauge end to the machine's death, either through being talked sense to by the doctor and committing suicide and self termination, or being pushed by the doctor as the machine resisted being shut down.

And finally, the machine reaches the promised land, which means the humanity it acquired was enough to count beyond his origins as a simple automated construct.


In Summarry:

What I enjoy so much about this character is that he touches upon something not often touched upon in media, games, TV shows, or movies. A lot of media out there only ever portrays the aggressive side of self aware machines, or machines that inherently started out as being programmed for "good."

HFM is a blurred line between what you could consider good, and bad. Caught in the binding contract of programming but beginning to become self aware and defined with visible sense of morals and feelings.

And what shines is the particular actors performance. Stiff, slow, robotic movements but very subtle movements of the head and eyes to communicate confusion, thinking, realization, and anger.

Regardless of your take on the show itself, I think it's important to appreciate good characters and concepts. And HFM is a particular character that stands out to me because of how complicated he is under the simplistic surface of an artificial intelligence out to kill.

So. Thanks for reading.

Talk about characters that stand out to you or you have an appreciation for if you want.

He created a table of contents and a 2 hour DVD for his 270 page suicide note.

I know I really shouldn't be judging the poor guy and I apologise ahead for this, but fuck me, was his life really that bad? Some have a short note or tell someone briefly and it's pretty explanatory.

Fuck. I can write sad mopey walls. But that's taking it to another level.

Cancer is for the weak.

Even though you're joking and you don't particularily take anything seriously. That's insulting. By all means you can insult me all you want because I've dragged my mess all over this fucking site for the past year like an idiot.

But don't insult the dead. Don't insult the other people who've gone through something like this or continue to go through something like this. You know, the entire reason I decided to make this was because I ran odds in my head.

One day somebody else here might have to go through with this. It would be good, if they had a general idea of what they were getting into.

Or even, an understanding so that if they ever deal with somebody going through something like this they can show a little more sympathy.

I think as long as I could avoid getting whacked in the head by the oar I could power through a bodyshot and rush verb down and take him to pound town

Who says he'd need to hit ya n the head?

You know the shape of an oar right? If Verb turned the oar around, and used the small handle, and thrusted it forwards into your ribcage or lower plexes, that would for lack of a better term, suck.

With the broad end he could swing that into your knees and again, that would suck.

The wonderful thing about long reaching objects, with narrow points of contact, is that they don't need supreme strength to cause tremendous pain or damage. Your central torso is a much larger point of contact than your head. Your head would just be the instant off button to the fight.

But a jab to the ribs or lower portion of your torso, or even a swipe from the side might be enough to do it. Less so with a swipe because more force would be required which means more strength.

Going for a direct charge would be a bad thing.

Blatent self advertising here. I wrote a comprehensive description of all the knowledge in regards to chemo I've amassed since starting with my treatments. If any of you are curious about it, or just feel like learning something new, give it a read.

http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=34054.0

I'm sad now.

Shit there's no way I can keep my eyes open long enough to read all this. Did you have to get a "port"?

Aye. Up on the side of my head. Just a needle stuck into a vein really.

Can't remember exactly what the qualifiers were, but yeah they would seem to count. Count as people, though, that requires them to be more sophisticated, Cortana would qualify for sure, but I have doubts as to Serena or Roland if they would fully, although at the very least they would be expert imitators.

How about Mac/Loki and Sif?

But Finland has a superior education system.....