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Gaming / Re: Holy shit, Warframe is a blast.
« on: July 30, 2015, 01:24:17 PM »
I played it waaaay back before it got overhauled.

I didn't mind it at all. Grind fests never really seem to bother me that much because I don't spaz out and go crazy looking at all the shit that looks cool that I don't have.

If anything, I'm more reserved about starting it up again because I'd have to update the fuck out of it and throw myself into a virtually brand new game again.
I'm scared to go back and play it now too because they've just added so much stuff I feel like it will he overwealming
There's like player ships and pets and stuff

Ya! I hear ya completely.

Environment overhauls, enemies, weapons, classes, melee, fuck, just about everything. It's intimidating. But, funny enough, speaking of grindfests, I was looking through the games marketplace and found Defiance free to play.

I figured, eh, what the fuck, I can't lose if it's free. I'm having some fun now.

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Gaming / Re: Holy shit, Warframe is a blast.
« on: July 30, 2015, 01:01:33 PM »
I played it waaaay back before it got overhauled.

I didn't mind it at all. Grind fests never really seem to bother me that much because I don't spaz out and go crazy looking at all the shit that looks cool that I don't have.

If anything, I'm more reserved about starting it up again because I'd have to update the fuck out of it and throw myself into a virtually brand new game again.

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Their characters are most likely internalised.
They weren't though. They were just your average military clichés.

Carter was the calm collected dude-bro leader
Kat was the generic smart military tough chick
Emile was the "cool" cocky guy
Jun was the guy that didn't say much
N6 isn't a character

Aye, that I know. But like I said. Chief, at first glance, is a generic brick. But we know otherwise don't we? I think that as characters, Noble Team has potential, or should I say had, the ability to be fleshed out. Some of them already have very subtle nuances to them that hint at personalities.

Emile is psychologically damaged. The skull and the "cocky" facade is a front.

Kat. You notice how she's bossy/bitchy? Sort of a take charge attitude? It's psychological compensation for her weakness and what she's lost. An arm.

Missed potential, I figure. Then again I guess Bungie's done a lot of hit and miss stuff throughout their career haven't they?


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You know, I gave it some thought a while back, in regards to Noble's personalities. Spartans don't tend to be really.... colourful people.

They're not loud, they're not heavily chatty, they're soldiers. It doesn't mean that they don't have character however. It just means that their character tends to be internalised. Basically all that we know of Chief's character in terms of novels has been internalised thoughts. And all that we know of his outside character has been combat chatter, one liners, and his actions.

Which, tends to create some problems. Most people haven't read the novels, so Chief retains his "empty brick" personality. But throw too much outward dialouge from somebody who's supposed to be a trained supersoldier and you get the caustic "bro-dude" spartans.

It's actually probably a really hard characterisation line to walk in terms of writing. And I think Noble Team, apart from being canoe breaking in terms of origins in regards to being Spartan III's save for Jorge, mostly follow this.

Their characters are most likely internalised.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 30, 2015, 10:43:46 AM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.
Not my fault he overreacted to a simple comment.

Actually yeah, it is. If you had a better grasp on the subject at hand that you'd understand that this shit isn't just an off switch. Depression doesn't give a fuck about how happy or well off you are.

It's neural fuckery at its finest and it doesn't give a shit about any walls you put up to stop it. You could be the king of the world and be depressed as shit. You could be well off and be depressed as shit.

And you might even tell yourself things, try to make yourself realize that you're actually okay but it gets reflected and turned back on you in a negative way by your own twisted and warped thoughts. Do you understand that? Here, let me give you an example.

Let's say, somebody who's depressed realizes it. And they start trying to shift their thoughts to better areas. Looking at their life and realizing that, hey, they're pretty well off. You'd think that would work right?

No.

Because then, the person gets down about realizing that they're being stupid about things and that they're being ungrateful for what they have, and you start right back off at square one.

I even wrote you a post explaining that all things considered, I know that I'm well off. But yet I'm still in this shithole of a state no matter how much I try to beat it.

That's what you don't get. This shit isn't just a fucking off switch. It's a slow burn that hides around every fucking corner of your head and waits to come out and twist things against you, and when you think you've beaten it, boom, it comes crawling back out of the dark corners of your head and pushes you right back down into the mud as easily as the first time.

Do you understand me?
I get you. I already knew coming in that there isn't an off switch and its relatively complicated to fix. From what little I've read about it, they say you have to change aspect of your everyday life and focus on introspection. Quite frankly I probably won't ever get it in the sense that you do since I haven't experienced depression, but I suppose I'll make an effort to understand it more than I do now. The symptoms have been explained, but what about the solutions?

You know what? I don't even fucking know anymore. Depression at its core is a chemical inbalance which can be partially countered with its opposite chemicals. Basically, by being happy.

Growth, new experiences and lots of mental activity and stimulous that makes a person happy is always the soundest bet. But that's why I made this thread. I feel like I've hit the wall here. I've defined myself as a person, I've grown and changed, I've learned to do stuff that I enjoy, and I've learned about what makes me happy and satisfied.

And here I am. What the fuck am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to do things like that when I've already established a strong base to work off of? It depends on the depression. Some people have temporary downs which can be climbed out of.

Mine is fucking chronic. It'll always be there.
You know, I planned to head to Barnes and Noble to day for a poetry book, but I think I'll pick up a book on depression as well, as I'm now genuinely curuious about it. So we've established that it's a chemical imbalance that, from what I'm seeing, cannot be counteracted by conciously trying to be happy through introspective analysis or engaging in things that make you happy. Do you think antidepressants are the best solution to this problem? I was always skeptical about them since I assumed one would become dependant on them, but seeing as how it's more physiological than mental, I assume it's the most practical route. I've heard that people could improve by seeking consistent therapy as well.

I hope depression wont always be there for you though.

Anti-depressents aren't even a real solution. It's the opposite really. Yo don't become dependant on anti-depressents. Your brain rejects them.

They're a trick to your brain. Essentially, what they do is, trick your brain into thinking that it has what it needs in terms of a normal healthy chemical balance. And this, naturally, only works for so long. Eventually your brain adapts to the dosage and so over time, the dosage needs to be raised.

It's basically, a money racket. It doesn't fix things. And I can't even consider it because I've conversed with all my various docs and they all agree that with the amount of chemicals I'm taking right now, in the form of meds for chemo, already make me unstable. Throwing more pills on top of things has the potential to seriously fuck me up if it already hasn't.
Ehh, I get that they are pretty unpopular and psychiatric medication is treated like rat poison in terms of opinion but the more advanced and refined medications are a lot more effective/less shitty than people tend to expect.

It does depend on the patient but say you take the generic client with MDD, suicidal ideation and constantly depressed mood. They can't go to work and all they are able to do is lie on the floor/sofa and waste the day away.

Chances are CBT alone won't break the cycle, you need the big guns to get them off the floor then the other treatments have a chance of working. You tell a man who is currently weighing up Bridge or Train that it's an issue with the way he is thinking about his problems and chances are that's going to be as useful as some of the quotes in this venerable comic now obviously a trained psych isn't going to be that blunt but from my experience it might as well be.

The combined approach of temporary medication coupled with regular therapy seems to be (and has been) the most effective approach in my opinion.

When you say they trick the brain, that's not technically true. Take SSRIs for example, the nice simple one, say the patient has low levels of serotonin floating around, this can be in part dealt with by making more of the serotonin available - you do this by binding the SSRI to the nerve cells in place of the serotonin which would normally be reabsorbed and 'destroyed' by the nerve cells. You have more serotonin available as a result and this improves the mood of the patient. I'll just quote this bit from the NHS's website

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It would be too simplistic to say that depression and related mental health conditions are caused by low serotonin levels, but a rise in serotonin levels can improve symptoms and make people more responsive to other types of treatment, such as CBT.

That'd be why you get put on them, to make the therapy more effective/responsive and to give the initial uplift to start the slog uphill.

Got a nice diagram here for anyone who can stomach biochemistry <.<

This is for an NaSSA drug as opposed to SSRI but it's somewhat the same.

The yellow bars (drug) cockblock the green and blue maws that would otherwise eat up all the nice little neurotransmitters (green/blue space invaders) thus having the desired effect of increasing availability of the two

So perhaps you can describe it as a trick, but it's a relatively simple mechanism to increase the amount of NT in your system.

As for the money racket, eh I can't say I disagree but I wouldn't dismiss it outright. I find it disgusting that there are people who profit from maintaining sickness rather than curing it, but the degenerates aside the medication does help people and when they reach a point in their life where they are stable enough to come off it then the treatment is complete.

Sadly in your case, as your doctors have rightfully pointed out the chemo cocktail would not be complemented by a dose of SSRI/NaSSA/Tricyclics without some pretty catastrophic side-effects which is unfortunate but the way things go, I'd hope they could at least provide some form of psychological therapy but I imagine the backwoods of canada aren't populated with too many professional shrinks :l

Unfortunately, no. Even in the more populated areas of my province we just don't have a big number of medical proffessionals in regards to psychology things of that caliber. We're a bit notorious for it actually. To give you an example. My province is shaped basically like a big rectangle.

You know how many psychiatrists manage the top northern half?

1.

One person. I've read about her before. She makes house calls to all the really remote settlements up north where there are no roads via plane. I think we've got a bit more psychologists in the province though. Bit easier to find than a psychiatrist.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 08:42:43 PM »
How's it affecting your paranoia? (If any)

I'm asking because my roommate had/has chronic depression (seems to be quite common in Finland, as does alcoholism and suicides), and her paranoia and cynicism were through the roof the whole year. It's tough as it is trying to constantly convince someone that you don't hate them because you couldn't hang out with them that day, but I can't imagine how bad it is to think (andbbelieve) that everyone hates you.

I don't think I've ever been much in the way of paranoid. I might be lacking in other avenues but I've enough common sense not to get myself worked up on self paranoia. But, now that you mention it.

I notice I seem to forget that I do have people who like me and I do have people who certainly love me. I'm not paranoid that everybody hates me. But I can tell you that I am affected badly when I realize that I have people around who like me.

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The Flood / Re: Any male members here who shave/trim their legs?
« on: July 29, 2015, 08:24:33 PM »
I don't think my legs have ever seen the light of day. I've no need to make a fuss over em. Plus, fuck, come to think of it, I have enough fun shaving my beard. That's about a half an hour long affair even if I'm not picky about it.

I don't feel like thinking about the amount of time it would take to spend on legs.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 08:15:22 PM »
I hate when people insult each other and then apologize.


Would you prefer it if they made headlines instead by shooting each other?

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 02:17:54 PM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.
Not my fault he overreacted to a simple comment.

Actually yeah, it is. If you had a better grasp on the subject at hand that you'd understand that this shit isn't just an off switch. Depression doesn't give a fuck about how happy or well off you are.

It's neural fuckery at its finest and it doesn't give a shit about any walls you put up to stop it. You could be the king of the world and be depressed as shit. You could be well off and be depressed as shit.

And you might even tell yourself things, try to make yourself realize that you're actually okay but it gets reflected and turned back on you in a negative way by your own twisted and warped thoughts. Do you understand that? Here, let me give you an example.

Let's say, somebody who's depressed realizes it. And they start trying to shift their thoughts to better areas. Looking at their life and realizing that, hey, they're pretty well off. You'd think that would work right?

No.

Because then, the person gets down about realizing that they're being stupid about things and that they're being ungrateful for what they have, and you start right back off at square one.

I even wrote you a post explaining that all things considered, I know that I'm well off. But yet I'm still in this shithole of a state no matter how much I try to beat it.

That's what you don't get. This shit isn't just a fucking off switch. It's a slow burn that hides around every fucking corner of your head and waits to come out and twist things against you, and when you think you've beaten it, boom, it comes crawling back out of the dark corners of your head and pushes you right back down into the mud as easily as the first time.

Do you understand me?
I get you. I already knew coming in that there isn't an off switch and its relatively complicated to fix. From what little I've read about it, they say you have to change aspect of your everyday life and focus on introspection. Quite frankly I probably won't ever get it in the sense that you do since I haven't experienced depression, but I suppose I'll make an effort to understand it more than I do now. The symptoms have been explained, but what about the solutions?

You know what? I don't even fucking know anymore. Depression at its core is a chemical inbalance which can be partially countered with its opposite chemicals. Basically, by being happy.

Growth, new experiences and lots of mental activity and stimulous that makes a person happy is always the soundest bet. But that's why I made this thread. I feel like I've hit the wall here. I've defined myself as a person, I've grown and changed, I've learned to do stuff that I enjoy, and I've learned about what makes me happy and satisfied.

And here I am. What the fuck am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to do things like that when I've already established a strong base to work off of? It depends on the depression. Some people have temporary downs which can be climbed out of.

Mine is fucking chronic. It'll always be there.
You know, I planned to head to Barnes and Noble to day for a poetry book, but I think I'll pick up a book on depression as well, as I'm now genuinely curuious about it. So we've established that it's a chemical imbalance that, from what I'm seeing, cannot be counteracted by conciously trying to be happy through introspective analysis or engaging in things that make you happy. Do you think antidepressants are the best solution to this problem? I was always skeptical about them since I assumed one would become dependant on them, but seeing as how it's more physiological than mental, I assume it's the most practical route. I've heard that people could improve by seeking consistent therapy as well.

I hope depression wont always be there for you though.

Anti-depressents aren't even a real solution. It's the opposite really. Yo don't become dependant on anti-depressents. Your brain rejects them.

They're a trick to your brain. Essentially, what they do is, trick your brain into thinking that it has what it needs in terms of a normal healthy chemical balance. And this, naturally, only works for so long. Eventually your brain adapts to the dosage and so over time, the dosage needs to be raised.

It's basically, a money racket. It doesn't fix things. And I can't even consider it because I've conversed with all my various docs and they all agree that with the amount of chemicals I'm taking right now, in the form of meds for chemo, already make me unstable. Throwing more pills on top of things has the potential to seriously fuck me up if it already hasn't.
I see, the brain builds a tolerance to the drug. I figured this would be the case to an extent. That actually reminds me of a case where antidepressants were abused although I can't recall the specifics. Damn, the variables and biochemistry of depression is very complicated. I hate I've fallen into the trap where we as a society haven't really addressed or completely acknowledged the complexity of depression and other neurological conditions.

There's other factors as well, beyond just a person's chemestry and experiences. There's also outside, environmental factors as well. There's a type of depression that they classify as seasonal depression disorder, something along those lines.

Spring and summer are generally okay, but some people, in fall and winter get hit like a freight train by the changes. The light, mood, and tone change effects them, to varying degrees recorded from being just depressed all the way to full blown suicidal.

Up north, in Canada, for instance, the farther north you go, the higher the suicide rate becomes during winters for each respective province, along with a higher depression rate.

As we've established. This stuff isn't point and click. It's a complex and dangerous web to navigate when you're dealing with people because if you fuck up, you make things worse. Earlier anti-depressents, in fact, were responsible for some depressed people committing suicide, as the drug only partially worked but then sent them into an even worse state.

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Saying "Otaku" is like saying "Hacker." Both mean the people are actually very invested in their interest, whatever it is. There's a connotation with particular interests that colors perception of the terms, however.

Both just mean you're really passionate about something, to an obsessive point.


Actually in Japan being called an Otaku is considered an insult. It's sort of parralell to being called a basement dwelling neckbeard in north america.


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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:36:06 PM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.
Not my fault he overreacted to a simple comment.

Actually yeah, it is. If you had a better grasp on the subject at hand that you'd understand that this shit isn't just an off switch. Depression doesn't give a fuck about how happy or well off you are.

It's neural fuckery at its finest and it doesn't give a shit about any walls you put up to stop it. You could be the king of the world and be depressed as shit. You could be well off and be depressed as shit.

And you might even tell yourself things, try to make yourself realize that you're actually okay but it gets reflected and turned back on you in a negative way by your own twisted and warped thoughts. Do you understand that? Here, let me give you an example.

Let's say, somebody who's depressed realizes it. And they start trying to shift their thoughts to better areas. Looking at their life and realizing that, hey, they're pretty well off. You'd think that would work right?

No.

Because then, the person gets down about realizing that they're being stupid about things and that they're being ungrateful for what they have, and you start right back off at square one.

I even wrote you a post explaining that all things considered, I know that I'm well off. But yet I'm still in this shithole of a state no matter how much I try to beat it.

That's what you don't get. This shit isn't just a fucking off switch. It's a slow burn that hides around every fucking corner of your head and waits to come out and twist things against you, and when you think you've beaten it, boom, it comes crawling back out of the dark corners of your head and pushes you right back down into the mud as easily as the first time.

Do you understand me?
I get you. I already knew coming in that there isn't an off switch and its relatively complicated to fix. From what little I've read about it, they say you have to change aspect of your everyday life and focus on introspection. Quite frankly I probably won't ever get it in the sense that you do since I haven't experienced depression, but I suppose I'll make an effort to understand it more than I do now. The symptoms have been explained, but what about the solutions?

You know what? I don't even fucking know anymore. Depression at its core is a chemical inbalance which can be partially countered with its opposite chemicals. Basically, by being happy.

Growth, new experiences and lots of mental activity and stimulous that makes a person happy is always the soundest bet. But that's why I made this thread. I feel like I've hit the wall here. I've defined myself as a person, I've grown and changed, I've learned to do stuff that I enjoy, and I've learned about what makes me happy and satisfied.

And here I am. What the fuck am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to do things like that when I've already established a strong base to work off of? It depends on the depression. Some people have temporary downs which can be climbed out of.

Mine is fucking chronic. It'll always be there.
You know, I planned to head to Barnes and Noble to day for a poetry book, but I think I'll pick up a book on depression as well, as I'm now genuinely curuious about it. So we've established that it's a chemical imbalance that, from what I'm seeing, cannot be counteracted by conciously trying to be happy through introspective analysis or engaging in things that make you happy. Do you think antidepressants are the best solution to this problem? I was always skeptical about them since I assumed one would become dependant on them, but seeing as how it's more physiological than mental, I assume it's the most practical route. I've heard that people could improve by seeking consistent therapy as well.

I hope depression wont always be there for you though.

And yeah, therapy can help. Reducing stress can be another factor. Depression at its core is a chemical inbalance but its fueled by all sorts of different sides.

Stress, anxiety, trauma you name it. It's a multi-faceted problem and its different for every person.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:31:47 PM »
cannot be counteracted by conciously trying to be happy through introspective analysis or engaging in things that make you happy
You know, I think I took your comments a little too personally and went overboard. I'm glad you've engaged Sandtrap in a proper discussion, and I'm glad you're willing to learn about the issue. That's commendable. So I apologise for being way too hostile in this thread.

Jesus christ be happy that I didn't fly off the wall and say a ramble that didn't make any sense. It's a miracle at this point that I've not gone loopy in the day yet.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:30:10 PM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.
Not my fault he overreacted to a simple comment.

Actually yeah, it is. If you had a better grasp on the subject at hand that you'd understand that this shit isn't just an off switch. Depression doesn't give a fuck about how happy or well off you are.

It's neural fuckery at its finest and it doesn't give a shit about any walls you put up to stop it. You could be the king of the world and be depressed as shit. You could be well off and be depressed as shit.

And you might even tell yourself things, try to make yourself realize that you're actually okay but it gets reflected and turned back on you in a negative way by your own twisted and warped thoughts. Do you understand that? Here, let me give you an example.

Let's say, somebody who's depressed realizes it. And they start trying to shift their thoughts to better areas. Looking at their life and realizing that, hey, they're pretty well off. You'd think that would work right?

No.

Because then, the person gets down about realizing that they're being stupid about things and that they're being ungrateful for what they have, and you start right back off at square one.

I even wrote you a post explaining that all things considered, I know that I'm well off. But yet I'm still in this shithole of a state no matter how much I try to beat it.

That's what you don't get. This shit isn't just a fucking off switch. It's a slow burn that hides around every fucking corner of your head and waits to come out and twist things against you, and when you think you've beaten it, boom, it comes crawling back out of the dark corners of your head and pushes you right back down into the mud as easily as the first time.

Do you understand me?
I get you. I already knew coming in that there isn't an off switch and its relatively complicated to fix. From what little I've read about it, they say you have to change aspect of your everyday life and focus on introspection. Quite frankly I probably won't ever get it in the sense that you do since I haven't experienced depression, but I suppose I'll make an effort to understand it more than I do now. The symptoms have been explained, but what about the solutions?

You know what? I don't even fucking know anymore. Depression at its core is a chemical inbalance which can be partially countered with its opposite chemicals. Basically, by being happy.

Growth, new experiences and lots of mental activity and stimulous that makes a person happy is always the soundest bet. But that's why I made this thread. I feel like I've hit the wall here. I've defined myself as a person, I've grown and changed, I've learned to do stuff that I enjoy, and I've learned about what makes me happy and satisfied.

And here I am. What the fuck am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to do things like that when I've already established a strong base to work off of? It depends on the depression. Some people have temporary downs which can be climbed out of.

Mine is fucking chronic. It'll always be there.
You know, I planned to head to Barnes and Noble to day for a poetry book, but I think I'll pick up a book on depression as well, as I'm now genuinely curuious about it. So we've established that it's a chemical imbalance that, from what I'm seeing, cannot be counteracted by conciously trying to be happy through introspective analysis or engaging in things that make you happy. Do you think antidepressants are the best solution to this problem? I was always skeptical about them since I assumed one would become dependant on them, but seeing as how it's more physiological than mental, I assume it's the most practical route. I've heard that people could improve by seeking consistent therapy as well.

I hope depression wont always be there for you though.

Anti-depressents aren't even a real solution. It's the opposite really. Yo don't become dependant on anti-depressents. Your brain rejects them.

They're a trick to your brain. Essentially, what they do is, trick your brain into thinking that it has what it needs in terms of a normal healthy chemical balance. And this, naturally, only works for so long. Eventually your brain adapts to the dosage and so over time, the dosage needs to be raised.

It's basically, a money racket. It doesn't fix things. And I can't even consider it because I've conversed with all my various docs and they all agree that with the amount of chemicals I'm taking right now, in the form of meds for chemo, already make me unstable. Throwing more pills on top of things has the potential to seriously fuck me up if it already hasn't.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:02:16 PM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.
Not my fault he overreacted to a simple comment.

Actually yeah, it is. If you had a better grasp on the subject at hand that you'd understand that this shit isn't just an off switch. Depression doesn't give a fuck about how happy or well off you are.

It's neural fuckery at its finest and it doesn't give a shit about any walls you put up to stop it. You could be the king of the world and be depressed as shit. You could be well off and be depressed as shit.

And you might even tell yourself things, try to make yourself realize that you're actually okay but it gets reflected and turned back on you in a negative way by your own twisted and warped thoughts. Do you understand that? Here, let me give you an example.

Let's say, somebody who's depressed realizes it. And they start trying to shift their thoughts to better areas. Looking at their life and realizing that, hey, they're pretty well off. You'd think that would work right?

No.

Because then, the person gets down about realizing that they're being stupid about things and that they're being ungrateful for what they have, and you start right back off at square one.

I even wrote you a post explaining that all things considered, I know that I'm well off. But yet I'm still in this shithole of a state no matter how much I try to beat it.

That's what you don't get. This shit isn't just a fucking off switch. It's a slow burn that hides around every fucking corner of your head and waits to come out and twist things against you, and when you think you've beaten it, boom, it comes crawling back out of the dark corners of your head and pushes you right back down into the mud as easily as the first time.

Do you understand me?
I get you. I already knew coming in that there isn't an off switch and its relatively complicated to fix. From what little I've read about it, they say you have to change aspect of your everyday life and focus on introspection. Quite frankly I probably won't ever get it in the sense that you do since I haven't experienced depression, but I suppose I'll make an effort to understand it more than I do now. The symptoms have been explained, but what about the solutions?

You know what? I don't even fucking know anymore. Depression at its core is a chemical inbalance which can be partially countered with its opposite chemicals. Basically, by being happy.

Growth, new experiences and lots of mental activity and stimulous that makes a person happy is always the soundest bet. But that's why I made this thread. I feel like I've hit the wall here. I've defined myself as a person, I've grown and changed, I've learned to do stuff that I enjoy, and I've learned about what makes me happy and satisfied.

And here I am. What the fuck am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to do things like that when I've already established a strong base to work off of? It depends on the depression. Some people have temporary downs which can be climbed out of.

Mine is fucking chronic. It'll always be there.

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Serious / Re: A challenge to free will
« on: July 29, 2015, 12:45:39 PM »
I just realized this was a pun:


Gay. Wish my speakers weren't out. Apparently I'm missing some quaility content here.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 12:39:16 PM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.
Not my fault he overreacted to a simple comment.

Actually yeah, it is. If you had a better grasp on the subject at hand that you'd understand that this shit isn't just an off switch. Depression doesn't give a fuck about how happy or well off you are.

It's neural fuckery at its finest and it doesn't give a shit about any walls you put up to stop it. You could be the king of the world and be depressed as shit. You could be well off and be depressed as shit.

And you might even tell yourself things, try to make yourself realize that you're actually okay but it gets reflected and turned back on you in a negative way by your own twisted and warped thoughts. Do you understand that? Here, let me give you an example.

Let's say, somebody who's depressed realizes it. And they start trying to shift their thoughts to better areas. Looking at their life and realizing that, hey, they're pretty well off. You'd think that would work right?

No.

Because then, the person gets down about realizing that they're being stupid about things and that they're being ungrateful for what they have, and you start right back off at square one.

I even wrote you a post explaining that all things considered, I know that I'm well off. But yet I'm still in this shithole of a state no matter how much I try to beat it.

That's what you don't get. This shit isn't just a fucking off switch. It's a slow burn that hides around every fucking corner of your head and waits to come out and twist things against you, and when you think you've beaten it, boom, it comes crawling back out of the dark corners of your head and pushes you right back down into the mud as easily as the first time.

Do you understand me?

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 12:31:01 PM »
A few of the posts ITT I can really sympathise with, not nearly to the extent of some of you guys, but still can get pretty bad sometimes. I only wish there was more that Friends could do to support someone going through depression, because that despair can get so intense that it traps almost every positive emotion.

Now, I consider myself to be a self motivator, in that I'm normally able to change my mood and energy by analysing my current mindset, what's causing the negative emotion I'm feeling, and then that usually calms me down enough to realise I'm actually in a good situation after all. However, this all went out the window quite recently, when for about a week, I simply wasn't able to lift my confidence or mood from an absolute well of despair that kept me there for what felt like an eternity. This experience was something I woudn't wish on my worst enemy, and made me realise that people with depression simply can't shake it. It's not as simple as "oh, I'll just listen to a motivational song and be okay." It makes you your own worst enemy.

I hope what I've written makes sense, I'm a bit sleep deprived.

No. What you said make sense. Pretty much spot on. I know that for me, depression is like deflection. Anything that comes in, is deflected back around at me. Take happy days for instance. After really good days, something goes wrong in my head and then I start to redirect everything in a negative manner and it gets me down.

It's like a game of cat and mouse, especially if you're aware of it. It's all just mind games, and, you are right. You become the last person you can trust essentially.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 12:11:26 PM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.
Wow! It's like after reading this post, all of my problems just seem so small and insignificant! Thanks, Lord Starch! You know, you should tell this to everyone with depression! "Reevaluate how you live your life" and "Work on self-esteem!"

No, really, that's absolutely beautiful. Put that shit on a fucking T-shirt.

"Reevaluate how you live your life"
- Lord Starch

Maybe put them on some offshoot of the Livestrong bracelets. That'll sell millions!

"Work on self-esteem"
- Lord Starch

If I'da known it was all that simple, I woulda stopped being depressed YEARS ago! You're going places, man. You're gonna be the next Dr. Phil. I mean, everything you said--it's all so nuanced, so erudite, so considerate of the complexity of the issue, but most of all, it's... Fucking retarded. I mean, wow.

It's this sort of glib, vapid ignorance that only makes me hate people even more--Self-esteem is probably the last thing I need to "work on". Whatever the fucking fuck that even means. "Work on self-esteem"? Please, describe to me in your own words what you THINK that means. It'll be hilarious.

Needless to say, your post lacks the substance, sophistication, and tact required to tackle such an issue.

This is the exact type of mongoloid idiocy that I was trying to preempt.
What are you accomplishing by posting this utter shit here? Wait, don't answer that--I already know.

Never post on this board again.
This reaction is reason you stay depressed. Your outlook on life and your fellow man is atrocious. All I'm saying is that maybe instead of being an online pessimist, you should change up and analyze how you live your life. But eh, I was just throwing in my two cents. I don't care what you do.

Can we seriously not turn this fucking thread into a garbage pile.

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Gaming / Re: What was your first game?
« on: July 29, 2015, 12:05:59 PM »
Do the mario.

5270
Serious / Re: A challenge to free will
« on: July 29, 2015, 12:02:27 PM »
I didn't watch the vid because my speakers are out. But, it's something I've thought about before. I'm not exactly sure that we do have free will. Just a clever illusion.

For example. Let's take the future. Let's presume that the future isn't decided yet, and therfore, logically speaking, every door is open. Every possibility for you exists but it hasn't happened yet. As soon as you make a choice, you set the ball rolling down a specific path of circumstances.

But your choice, in turn, is given all of its weight and merit by circumstances beforehand. The person you are today, the way you think, your morals, how you were raised, and everything else, determines how you will act.

So, while all the doors are always open to you, you're always going to travel down a set path because of who you are, which was predetermined by circumstances beyond your control. No matter what you choose, it's because of actions and experiences that push you a certain way, and while you think you always have the other option, you're always going to pick the path ahead of you that suits you best.

I assum of course, that the video was adocating against free will, rather than for it.

If it was, just ignore me.

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The Flood / Re: If you can't handle the banter
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:53:05 AM »
Lol.

The bus is who brings my town parcels that were shipped internationally. It's also a long fucking ass ride to anywhere civilised.

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The Flood / Re: tfw 90 degrees and 70% humidity
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:46:09 AM »
100% humidity
100+ degrees
Boots, flight suit, 20lbs of shit

Cry moar

80% Humidty
90+ degrees

Steel toed winter boots
Fire retardent jumpsuit
A tank of water and spray hose, axe, shovel backpack
Mask and goggles
Fire

Tie breaker?

5273
Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:32:15 AM »
I do wonder if I have PTSD though to be serious.

I know ya most likely won't answer, but where do you think you'd have picked up something like that? And yeah, I know. I set myself up for Deeez Nuts. But, being serious here.
Picked it up from how bad your mom gives head I'm traumatized LOL

All righty then.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:28:52 AM »
I do wonder if I have PTSD though to be serious.

I know ya most likely won't answer, but where do you think you'd have picked up something like that? And yeah, I know. I set myself up for Deeez Nuts. But, being serious here.

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The Flood / Re: :)))))))))))
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:23:34 AM »
Why does your smiley face have something like septuple chins?

5276
The Flood / Re: tfw 90 degrees and 70% humidity
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:22:43 AM »
I can sympathize. Drink lots of water. Don't move around too much. All that stuff.

5277
Serious / Re: What's your opinion on nuclear weapons?
« on: July 29, 2015, 11:16:07 AM »
Well, Nukes don't just "somehow go off." These weapons have fuck tons of fail safes built into them. But, all the same, what I don't like about any of it, is that it would only take one.

One person who didn't give a fuck. It's absolute insanity. That many weapons, that much destruction, and the capabilitiy to seriously fuck up our world so much, all hinging on basically one person alone.

Jesus christ, do you know how untrustworthy people are? And basically the fate of most nations not turning into bombed out craters hinges on just one person.

Fuck that shit, fuck stupid people and fuck their insecurities because that's what lead to the creation of such a weapon in the first place.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 10:56:38 AM »
No offense but there's a lot of cringe in this thread. Some of yall need to just get off the internet and reevaluate how you live your lives. Or work on self esteem.

I'd like to say something here, on that. Every factor taken into account, all things considered, I think it's safe to say something here. Out of all the various stuff I walked out of, I came out about as successful as I could. I care about people around me, I've got a hell of a lot of drive, and I do a decent enough job living up to my silent code of morals. In a sense, you could say that I'm happy and well off, all things considered.

Of which, I can at least appreciate good and happy moments when they come. I actively do things that I enjoy, if luck would have it eventually I'll have my own home to live in on my own land, and yada yada.

And yet here I am. I get pulled down into the dumps and I'm even actively aware that I'm depressed. Not to discredit you, actually, because that's how you pull yourself up out of most depressions.

You re-evaluate yourself and make changes. You raise your self esteem up. Of which I did both of, several years back. Of which I constantly try to do in the present. And yet I'm still here in this mess. To put it simply, it's not so simple. It's not as easy as one two three hey I'm an okay normal functioning human being now.

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Serious / Re: Depression Vent(Yeah I know)
« on: July 29, 2015, 03:15:29 AM »
Well, I'll take Meta's offer up. But I'll just ramble to myself in here I guess. Thank you to the folks who talked back. Under other circumstances, I'd try to say something back. Never was a fan of making something and not responding to folks who posted in it.

But, I can't be arsed to say much of anything. Danka for the talking though. I appreciate it.

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Gaming / Re: You all suck ass at Halo
« on: July 29, 2015, 02:57:59 AM »

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