torrenting undertale what should I expect (also live posting my playthrough now)

Kiwicake · October 28, 2015, 02:51:18 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset
Breaking the fourth wall is part of the writing that makes it good
Oh I love it when games break the fourth wall, but usually just when it's a different line or subtle poke at the player

but I read that if you do the genocide route, you can't get the pacifist ending on your second playthrough. Which is just straight up retarded.

It makes perfect sense though given what happens in the genocide playthrough, it really is completely different

October 28, 2015, 02:51:58 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset
Breaking the fourth wall is part of the writing that makes it good
Oh I love it when games break the fourth wall, but usually just when it's a different line or subtle poke at the player

but I read that if you do the genocide route, you can't get the pacifist ending on your second playthrough. Which is just straight up retarded.
No they lie, you easily can. It only changes one thing and it's at the very very very very end scene and it doesn't effect anything AT ALL other than implications.

You can easily go pacifist after that.

well if I play the game again I'll probably do the genocide route instead of just killing everyone I come across

and if the game is good enough to make me want to play it twice, I'll probably end up doing pacifist the third time

October 28, 2015, 02:52:53 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset
Breaking the fourth wall is part of the writing that makes it good
Oh I love it when games break the fourth wall, but usually just when it's a different line or subtle poke at the player

but I read that if you do the genocide route, you can't get the pacifist ending on your second playthrough. Which is just straight up retarded.
It makes perfect sense though given what happens in the genocide playthrough, it really is completely different

But when you reset a game, you're going back in time. What you did never happened. That's literally the definition of a reset.

Kiwicake · October 28, 2015, 02:56:02 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset
Breaking the fourth wall is part of the writing that makes it good
Oh I love it when games break the fourth wall, but usually just when it's a different line or subtle poke at the player

but I read that if you do the genocide route, you can't get the pacifist ending on your second playthrough. Which is just straight up retarded.
It makes perfect sense though given what happens in the genocide playthrough, it really is completely different
But when you reset a game, you're going back in time. What you did never happened. That's literally the definition of a reset.

Ohoho this game is going to surprise you

Verbatim · October 28, 2015, 02:56:45 PM

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or buy it

degenerates
If I like it, then I will. I have never played a game like this before and suspect there is a good chance I won't enjoy it. If I feel it's worth my money, I'll get it legit. But until then, I'm not going to commit my cash to Abstract Indie Game #2541 in the hopes that it doesn't disappoint and that I'll actually put some time into it rather than uninstall it half an hour in.
i don't have to tell you about the law, but your consumer wariness does not justify theft, sorry
Legally speaking not theft and a legal grey zone that is not criminally prosecuted and doesn't pose risks for the mere downloaders. I don't see many issues with this, really.

Perhaps not outside the US, but here, it's definitely illegal.
And it should be.

Morally speaking, there's just no way out of it--it's a bad thing to do.

If the creator didn't want money for it, he would've released it for free.

October 28, 2015, 02:57:26 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset
Breaking the fourth wall is part of the writing that makes it good
Oh I love it when games break the fourth wall, but usually just when it's a different line or subtle poke at the player

but I read that if you do the genocide route, you can't get the pacifist ending on your second playthrough. Which is just straight up retarded.
It makes perfect sense though given what happens in the genocide playthrough, it really is completely different
But when you reset a game, you're going back in time. What you did never happened. That's literally the definition of a reset.
Ohoho this game is going to surprise you

well apparently you only get the good writing if you do the pacifist run >.>

It's so great to kill everyone though

especially papyrus

fuck that guy

Luciana · October 28, 2015, 03:02:46 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset
Breaking the fourth wall is part of the writing that makes it good
Oh I love it when games break the fourth wall, but usually just when it's a different line or subtle poke at the player

but I read that if you do the genocide route, you can't get the pacifist ending on your second playthrough. Which is just straight up retarded.
It makes perfect sense though given what happens in the genocide playthrough, it really is completely different
But when you reset a game, you're going back in time. What you did never happened. That's literally the definition of a reset.
Ohoho this game is going to surprise you
well apparently you only get the good writing if you do the pacifist run >.>

It's so great to kill everyone though

especially papyrus

fuck that guy

Nah, both have good runs.

Though I'd recommend Pacifist after this one, and THEN genocide because then genocide will be more of an impact to you, because it references things you won't understand unless you do it.

Genocide, and the difficulty of it, are meant for final runs more or less. Clearly not first time through.

October 28, 2015, 03:08:39 PM

Do I ever get to kill that other skull guy? Papyrus' brother?

I figure the flower is like the final boss or some shit

thanks btw Luci, even though I'm going for the mixed ending it will be so much more fun for me to play than pacifist for sure

Batch · October 28, 2015, 03:23:04 PM

Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 03:08:39 PM

Do I ever get to kill that other skull guy? Papyrus' brother?

I figure the flower is like the final boss or some shit

thanks btw Luci, even though I'm going for the mixed ending it will be so much more fun for me to play than pacifist for sure

Sans.....you'll have you're chance at him eventually. You monster.

A salt rifle · October 28, 2015, 03:25:45 PM

Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 03:08:39 PM

Do I ever get to kill that other skull guy? Papyrus' brother?

I figure the flower is like the final boss or some shit

thanks btw Luci, even though I'm going for the mixed ending it will be so much more fun for me to play than pacifist for sure

Spoiler

Not in your current run. But yes, you have the possibility.

@EveryoneElse And please, don't post the foreshadowy memes considering Sans.

October 28, 2015, 03:30:04 PM

just play the fucking game instead of asking for spoilers

A salt rifle · October 28, 2015, 03:32:30 PM

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Sans.....you'll have you're chance at him eventually. You monster.

Wait, I just now realised...

The change in your profile is referencing Sans... you know.

I'm, like, trying to not post any spoilers and stuff even though this thread is pretty lenient regarding that but that doesn't stop me from being a considerate person and stuff... whatever

You fight him

Again, just hiding stuff that could be considered a spoiler

at the end of a Genocide run.

Verbatim · October 28, 2015, 03:34:58 PM

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Also I'm a boxfag. The box is the best part of buying a game.
We have a fundamental disagreement then. I'd rather actually, ya know, play it.

to be fair, she said it's the best part of buying the game

it's not that she'd rather not play it--she just considers the box an essential part of it

and so do i, but... not nearly to the same extent as her
she won't even play a physical game if she doesn't own the box for it yet

October 28, 2015, 03:41:28 PM

Quote from: Batch on October 28, 2015, 03:23:04 PM

Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
Do I ever get to kill that other skull guy? Papyrus' brother?

I figure the flower is like the final boss or some shit

thanks btw Luci, even though I'm going for the mixed ending it will be so much more fun for me to play than pacifist for sure
Sans.....you'll have you're chance at him eventually. You monster.

YES

he's not as annoying as tariel or papyrus but definitely still up there

🍁 Aria 🔮 · October 28, 2015, 03:52:22 PM

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We have a fundamental disagreement then. I'd rather actually, ya know, play it.

Which is why I'll probably cave in and buy it before the physical version eventually releases.

I also tend to buy physical music as well, actually. I have a stack of thirty-something CDs and a few vinyls sitting on my shelf at the moment, excluding all the others I have packed away somewhere and in my car. I never really feel like I own something unless I can physically touch it.

Kiwicake · October 28, 2015, 03:52:48 PM

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Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
Do I ever get to kill that other skull guy? Papyrus' brother?

I figure the flower is like the final boss or some shit

thanks btw Luci, even though I'm going for the mixed ending it will be so much more fun for me to play than pacifist for sure
Spoiler
Not in your current run. But yes, you have the possibility.

@EveryoneElse And please, don't post the foreshadowy memes considering Sans.

Sorry >.>

I'm trying really hard not to post spoilers

A salt rifle · October 28, 2015, 04:03:09 PM

Quote from: Fruitcake on October 28, 2015, 03:52:48 PM

Quote from: Atticus on October 28, 2015, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
Do I ever get to kill that other skull guy? Papyrus' brother?

I figure the flower is like the final boss or some shit

thanks btw Luci, even though I'm going for the mixed ending it will be so much more fun for me to play than pacifist for sure
Spoiler
Not in your current run. But yes, you have the possibility.

@EveryoneElse And please, don't post the foreshadowy memes considering Sans.
Sorry >.>

I'm trying really hard not to post spoilers

scoringinatbasketball.mem

Spoiler

unpleasantcircumstances.mp4

October 28, 2015, 04:22:32 PM

this is a meme free thread let's keep it clean

Doctor Doom · October 28, 2015, 04:55:28 PM

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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset

Trying to reset it just proves its point. It's a game about consequence.

October 28, 2015, 04:56:14 PM

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Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
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Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset

Trying to reset it just proves its point. It's a game about consequence.

well you can outwit that stupid shit and just uninstall/reinstall

Kiwicake · October 28, 2015, 04:58:46 PM

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Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: Fruitcake on October 28, 2015, 02:44:34 PM
Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset

Trying to reset it just proves its point. It's a game about consequence.
well you can outwit that stupid shit and just uninstall/reinstall

You'll be missing out on quite a bit of the game if you do that

Doctor Doom · October 28, 2015, 05:01:45 PM

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Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: Fruitcake on October 28, 2015, 02:44:34 PM
Also Class, if you reach the end of the game and change your mind about how you feel about the game so far, I implore you to try an entirely pacifist playthrough
if I do I'll uninstall/reinstall it, since this game can apparently detect what you did before resetting it

which, you know, defeats the whole purpose of a reset

Trying to reset it just proves its point. It's a game about consequence.
well you can outwit that stupid shit and just uninstall/reinstall

See above. Doing so is avoiding the consequences of going down the evil route. That's the point.

Cindy · October 28, 2015, 05:05:19 PM

Undertale best game all years

October 28, 2015, 05:05:32 PM

But I'm probably only going to play this once

so what consequences?

Doctor Doom · October 28, 2015, 05:09:17 PM

I see the overarching theme is going right over your head.

Verbatim · October 28, 2015, 05:10:08 PM

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But I'm probably only going to play this once

so what consequences?

let me put it this way

everything that makes the game great--everything that's making the game so popular

you're purposely skipping out on it
because of your preconceived notions of how a game should work

October 28, 2015, 05:12:28 PM

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But I'm probably only going to play this once

so what consequences?
let me put it this way

everything that makes the game great--everything that's making the game so popular

you're purposely skipping out on it
because of your preconceived notions of how a game should work

So let me get this straight - in order to enjoy this game, I have play it 2-3 times?

I don't have time for that....I very rarely replay games.

It's not about preconceived notions, it's that I don't want to be playing the same game all Autumn.

Verbatim · October 28, 2015, 05:14:48 PM

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So let me get this straight - in order to enjoy this game, I have play it 2-3 times?

I don't have time for that....I very rarely replay games.

It's not about preconceived notions, it's that I don't want to be playing the same game all Autumn.

i suppose you could just play it once, and then look up the other playthroughs on youtube, or something

if you cared, which you don't

October 28, 2015, 05:16:35 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 28, 2015, 05:14:48 PM

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So let me get this straight - in order to enjoy this game, I have play it 2-3 times?

I don't have time for that....I very rarely replay games.

It's not about preconceived notions, it's that I don't want to be playing the same game all Autumn.
i suppose you could just play it once, and then look up the other playthroughs on youtube, or something

if you cared, which you don't

I just thought this was an old school style choice based, story driven game

but it's sounding more like a meta jerkoff with one clear "moral" choice and one "bad" choice.

Doctor Doom · October 28, 2015, 05:19:18 PM

Quote from: The Ghost That Never Lies on October 28, 2015, 05:12:28 PM

I don't have time for that.

Your post count indicates otherwise, but that's beside the point.

It's not even a very long game. Subsequent playthroughs are much quicker since you probably won't stop to look at everything like most do on their first run.