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In about two months I want to be putting together a PC, assembling it and all that won't be an issue because family of techpriests and all that but in terms of picking out the good things to go for, I imagine some of you lot will have a better idea of what's a good component etc.

I'm not going for a budget build because I'd like it to actually still run games in a few years time and not just become obsolete by the time I turn it on so as a guideline i'd say around $1k (£800) is what I'd be spending. I don't need a monitor either, or accessories it's just the machine itself.

I'd also like to stick with Intel/Nvidia because that's what I currently have, other than that I'm starting from a blank slate pretty much.

Any recommendations? and is it worth just going for 16GB RAM now anyway?


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ayy lmao
as a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound card


 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too


 
 
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as a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound card
Isn't audio normally integrated anyway? I'm not a big audiophile so I doubt I could stomach blowing £200+ on a sound card.


 
 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?


 
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as a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound card
Isn't audio normally integrated anyway? I'm not a big audiophile so I doubt I could stomach blowing £200+ on a sound card.
no, it's incredibly important that you spend as much money as possible on the sound card.


 
 
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as a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound card
Isn't audio normally integrated anyway? I'm not a big audiophile so I doubt I could stomach blowing £200+ on a sound card.
no, it's incredibly important that you spend as much money as possible on the sound card.
okay i've just bought a £600 sound card off ebay


 
 
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I don't think 16gb is worth it. You're better off spending extra on the graphics card.
looking at it, it's about £60 for 16gb and half that for 8

£30 isn't really gonna make a big jump on a graphics card, because the model above the one I looked at (I think) goes up by a hundred and something


 
 
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And get a really expensive case
with flashy LEDs and a big sticker that says 'twat' on the side right?


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2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.

Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.

Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.

Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.


 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine


 
 
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2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.

Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.

Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.

Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.
Going by the amount of whining I hear from mustard ricers about SLI not being supported for games properly, I doubt I'll bother with that.

What would be the benefits to sticking the OS on an SSD?


 
 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>


 
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If you're not able to get everything in the £350 budget try an i5 I think Luciana had one, ask about its performance. 


 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350


 
 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
what would be the other stuff I'd need to get
i'm sure i'm missing something but

CPU
GPU
RAM
Motherboard
HDD/SSD
Case
PSU

or does that cover it?


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Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.

Is there any disadvantage of using just an SSD over having both? I understand the cost of a single large SSD is pretty huueeg, but I'm talking performance wise.


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2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.

Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.

Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.

Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.
Going by the amount of whining I hear from mustard ricers about SLI not being supported for games properly, I doubt I'll bother with that.

What would be the benefits to sticking the OS on an SSD?

It's only relevant if you get two GPUs. With only one, you don't need it. I'd get two regardless if you can.

SSDs are a lot faster than disks. If you use it for the OS, your computer performs faster but you store files on a HDD because you get more storage space for the same price.

Plus, retrieving two files from two drives is a lot better than two files from one drive, anyway.


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Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.

Is there any disadvantage of using just an SSD over having both? I understand the cost of a single large SSD is pretty huueeg, but I'm talking performance wise.

Retreiving files from one drive will be slower than retrieving from two

Like, if I store photoshop on one drive but store my files on another, it's faster because while both drives are bringing up files at the same time where one drive would be bringing them up one at a time.

Also SSDs have a limited number of writes. For most purposes it's irrelevant but they have a shorter shelf life than a disk, so it's something to consider.


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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
what would be the other stuff I'd need to get
i'm sure i'm missing something but

CPU
GPU
RAM
Motherboard
HDD/SSD
Case
PSU

or does that cover it?

Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.


 
 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
what would be the other stuff I'd need to get
i'm sure i'm missing something but

CPU
GPU
RAM
Motherboard
HDD/SSD
Case
PSU

or does that cover it?

Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.
Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.


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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.



 
 
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2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.

Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.

Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.

Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.
Going by the amount of whining I hear from mustard ricers about SLI not being supported for games properly, I doubt I'll bother with that.

What would be the benefits to sticking the OS on an SSD?

It's only relevant if you get two GPUs. With only one, you don't need it. I'd get two regardless if you can.

SSDs are a lot faster than disks. If you use it for the OS, your computer performs faster but you store files on a HDD because you get more storage space for the same price.

Plus, retrieving two files from two drives is a lot better than two files from one drive, anyway.
Only thing is I'd rather get one really good card than spend more getting two average ones. I straight up can't afford to buy two good GPUs so I'm just gonna rule out SLI.

I'll get one of them then, a faster responding OS would be nice.


 
 
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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
Yeah that would have been my intention, the corsair 16gb pack (2x8gb) seems to be pretty highly reviewed across the board. Is that a good one to go for?


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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
what would be the other stuff I'd need to get
i'm sure i'm missing something but

CPU
GPU
RAM
Motherboard
HDD/SSD
Case
PSU

or does that cover it?

Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.
Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.

Watercooling you'd have to clean the filters every now and then. Fans I don't think you'd have to do much. I don't rrally know much about that aspect so you'd be best off asking someone else.


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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
Yeah that would have been my intention, the corsair 16gb pack (2x8gb) seems to be pretty highly reviewed across the board. Is that a good one to go for?

I'd presume so, if it's got a lot of good feedback.

I'd use a site like pcpartspicker to assemble your chosen build beforehand so it can tell you if there's any incompatabilities or whatever, just in case.


 
 
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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
what would be the other stuff I'd need to get
i'm sure i'm missing something but

CPU
GPU
RAM
Motherboard
HDD/SSD
Case
PSU

or does that cover it?

Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.
Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.

Watercooling you'd have to clean the filters every now and then. Fans I don't think you'd have to do much. I don't rrally know much about that aspect so you'd be best off asking someone else.
might just go with a fan then

the problem with my laptop is I can't really open it up to clean it out so I guess that's less of a problem with a tower


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£800 for just the machine is p great fam.
i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
yeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.e

quick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computer
that'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p.

also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
I mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
what would be the other stuff I'd need to get
i'm sure i'm missing something but

CPU
GPU
RAM
Motherboard
HDD/SSD
Case
PSU

or does that cover it?

Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.
Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.

Watercooling you'd have to clean the filters every now and then. Fans I don't think you'd have to do much. I don't rrally know much about that aspect so you'd be best off asking someone else.
might just go with a fan then

the problem with my laptop is I can't really open it up to clean it out so I guess that's less of a problem with a tower

Yeah. To me, the problems with water aren't worth the benefits. I'd go with fans just for convenience- I can handle a bit of noise.