"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

 
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Also, the "bleached by the sun" thing, while it hasn't been disputed, is retarded. I wouldn't be surprised if it's completely ignored.

Not to mention that a significant part of the MGS community believes that both Liquid and Solid were born with blond hair.


 
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It's definitely Liquid. There's no doubt about it.
Think so? How come?

I just like to hear your opinions on MGS stuff since you know way too much.


 
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That'd be crazy if it was Solid and Liquid. They were born in 1972, and it's what... '84 in the game?

About 12 years old. It matches.


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But anyway, the kanji on the back of Eli's jacket says 'Liquid Man', his entire outfit is a call-back to Liquid's, he has a string of canine teeth around his neck (keep in mind Liquid hunted foxes and jackals), he's confirmed to be British, he jumps into a Metal Gear the same way Liquid did, he appears at the end of the most recent trailer just after Skull Face mentions Les Enfante Terrible alongside what appears to be an identical twin...if he isn't a young Liquid, he's Liquid's identical mini-me.

In which case I want a Mini Gear Solid spinoff where Mini Snake battles Little Boss.


 
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But anyway, the kanji on the back of Eli's jacket says 'Liquid Man', his entire outfit is a call-back to Liquid's, he has a string of canine teeth around his neck (keep in mind Liquid hunted foxes and jackals), he's confirmed to be British, he jumps into a Metal Gear the same way Liquid did, he appears at the end of the most recent trailer just after Skull Face mentions Les Enfante Terrible alongside what appears to be an identical twin...if he isn't a young Liquid, he's Liquid's identical mini-me.

In which case I want a Mini Gear Solid spinoff where Mini Snake battles Little Boss.
Suddenly it's Raiden, and then we don't play the game as Big Boss


We play as Zero


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Much like MGS4 with Big Boss looking different than he did now
Well yeah, he's a lot older. Besides that they look pretty similar.
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It isn't unusual for characters to look different to varying degrees over the years. Just look at Desmond in Assassin's Creed.
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Speaking of that shit character, is that blonde kid in the 9 min trailer supposed to be Liquid? I forget his name.
Eli, and yeah that's the most common theory I've seen. Apparently the necklace he has has teeth that look like Jackal teeth (going back to his MGS1 "in the middle east we don't hunt foxes, we hunt jackals" line).


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And now I want to be able to play as wheelchair-bound braindead 100-year-old Zero. Tactical Geriatric Action.


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Anyway, it's a week until the game comes out now. This is going to be a long ass week/


 
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Much like MGS4 with Big Boss looking different than he did now
Well yeah, he's a lot older. Besides that they look pretty similar.
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It isn't unusual for characters to look different to varying degrees over the years. Just look at Desmond in Assassin's Creed.
I just meant scars, shrapnel, etc. It's obvious none of the scars carried over cuz Kojima never thought he'd make another MG after that, or get THAT far.

But if asked for an explanation, it'd be some bullshit thing like nanomachines (all of MGS4), or new body or whatever.


 
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And now I want to be able to play as wheelchair-bound braindead 100-year-old Zero. Tactical Geriatric Action.
How old was he in 3? 50's, right? So about 70. Yeah lol


 
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I won't make a new thread since this mega thread works, but it's time to see if you guys are Metal Gear plebs, and there is one question to root them out. Ready?

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Rex or Ray?


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A flower which blooms on the battlefield
Much like MGS4 with Big Boss looking different than he did now
Well yeah, he's a lot older. Besides that they look pretty similar.
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It isn't unusual for characters to look different to varying degrees over the years. Just look at Desmond in Assassin's Creed.
I just meant scars, shrapnel, etc. It's obvious none of the scars carried over cuz Kojima never thought he'd make another MG after that, or get THAT far.

But if asked for an explanation, it'd be some bullshit thing like nanomachines (all of MGS4), or new body or whatever.
Shrapnel removal isn't an issue, for obvious reasons.
Scars can be explained away by plastic surgery or nanomachines (son).


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the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Much like MGS4 with Big Boss looking different than he did now
Well yeah, he's a lot older. Besides that they look pretty similar.
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It isn't unusual for characters to look different to varying degrees over the years. Just look at Desmond in Assassin's Creed.
I just meant scars, shrapnel, etc. It's obvious none of the scars carried over cuz Kojima never thought he'd make another MG after that, or get THAT far.

But if asked for an explanation, it'd be some bullshit thing like nanomachines (all of MGS4), or new body or whatever.

He was a weird jello-skeleton-thing when Snake sees his corpse. Later he gets pieces of Solidus grafted on to revive him. Presumably he's wearing Solidus' face at the end of GotP, which lacks the scars.


 
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I'll skip what other's have already said, unless they've failed to answer effectively.

Think so? How come?

>"Eli(ab)" is the brother of "David" in the bible, who has 7 siblings. Similar to the "Les Enfants Terribles" program having 8 fetuses, with 6 of them being intentionally aborted. David is Solid's name

>"Eli: A Youth Who Curses His Fate" SCREAMS Liquid. Liquid hates that his "fate" was "cursed" with.

>He literally looks like Liquid

>He wears jackal teeth around his neck, a call-back to the line in MGS1 "In the middle-east, we don't hunt foxes. We hunt Jackals!"

>"Les Enfants Terribles... Zero called it" While focusing on two character models of Eli in the E3 2015 Trailer

>Literally jumps into ST84-Metal Gear the EXACT same way Liquid does to Rex in MGS1 (in the E3 2015 trailer)

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I just like to hear your opinions on MGS stuff since you know way too much.

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He was a weird jello-skeleton-thing when Snake sees his corpse. Later he gets pieces of Solidus grafted on to revive him. Presumably he's wearing Solidus' face at the end of GotP, which lacks the scars.
Again, just an easy cop out. And if it was his face, his eye patch would be on the other eye.

And that was Solidus in the jello thingy, not BB.


 
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Yeah see? Know too much about MGS1. I'm excited then.


And good boy. Rex is the right answer


 
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Yeah see? Know too much about MGS1. I'm excited then.

It's not just MGS1 I know about. MGS2 is my least knowledgeable, though.

I know the most about Big Boss.

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And good boy. Rex is the right answer

I fucking LOVE Ray's design, though.


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He was a weird jello-skeleton-thing when Snake sees his corpse. Later he gets pieces of Solidus grafted on to revive him. Presumably he's wearing Solidus' face at the end of GotP, which lacks the scars.
Again, just an easy cop out. And if it was his face, his eye patch would be on the other eye.

Solidus' eye was damaged; his face was intact.

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And that was Solidus in the jello thingy, not BB.

Was it? Hm.


 
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MGS2 was just a lot thrown at you too. If you re-played it today, you'd probably understand much more. That and it was basically Kojima messaging the actual player about expectations, and the tendencies in today's world.


And yeah Ray LOOKS cool, but something about Rex. I loved that fight in MGS4.


 
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He was a weird jello-skeleton-thing when Snake sees his corpse. Later he gets pieces of Solidus grafted on to revive him. Presumably he's wearing Solidus' face at the end of GotP, which lacks the scars.
Again, just an easy cop out. And if it was his face, his eye patch would be on the other eye.

Solidus' eye was damaged; his face was intact.

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And that was Solidus in the jello thingy, not BB.

Was it? Hm.
I doubt it was his face, I have no freaking clue. He was brought back just cuz anyway. That's all MGS4 was. Nanomachines and just cuz

and yeah, he says it when he meets Snake again.


 
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Also, reminder that the NEW trailer (directed by Hideo Kojima, the voice of god himself) goes LIVE tomorrow (August 25th) at 6AM PST, 9AM EST, 2PM UK Time, 11PM JPN Time

Not that we have any local Japanese lads here, but. . .

anyways, I'll be up tomorrow at 8AM EST in preparation for the trailer, so rest assured I'll be posting ASAP.


 
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MGS2 was just a lot thrown at you too. If you re-played it today, you'd probably understand much more.

I just replayed it a few weeks ago, and yeah I still understand a lot of it. I just don't find it to be a particularly fun game to experience. It doesn't have the narrative-magnetism of Snake Eater and lacks the gameplay finesse of the first game.

I would say that part of the reason I don't know as much (though, I still know a lot in comparison to your average fan) is because of two things:
1. It doesn't interest me as much as the others
2. Most of the plot elements (and the entire point of the game) are rendered irrelevant in the canon by Metal Gear Solid 4. So there's no point in going the extra mile to understand the game when MGS4 does it for me (part of the reason I dislike the game, tbh)

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And yeah Ray LOOKS cool, but something about Rex. I loved that fight in MGS4.

Yeah, it's one of the best parts of the game.


 
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The RAY fight in MGS2 was pretty sweet though.


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