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A record for my first playthrough of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time for the Nintendo 64.



Regarding Spoiler/Advice Protocol:

I simply do NOT want any help when it comes to the mechanics/puzzles. I want to figure those out for myself. If I ever say something like,

"Man, I wonder how you beat Gohma. I know it has something to do with her eye."

I don't want someone popping in to tell me how to do it.

A good rule of thumb regarding plot spoilers is that, if I'm going to find out the answer to my question by finishing the game, just don't say anything. And if the answer to my question spoils something that will happen in the game, just spoiler tag it, like so:

Plot Spoilers for Ocarina of Time
You defeat Ganondorf at the end.

Thanks.




12/22/2015

I beat King Dodongo. Well, "beat" is a bit of an understatement. I slaughtered Dodongo. I didn't even get him once. I figured out that you have to throw the bombs right into his mouth. After that, I was aces.

Big Brother gave me the second spiritual stone, and I was tasked with making my way up to Death Mountain to talk to the Great Fairy. Once up there, I was granted a new sword ability (the spin-thingy from Smash Bros.) The Owl guy took be back down the mountain.

I had a hunch that I would have to get a water-themed stone next, so I went back to that river I discovered before. I ran out of bombs and I'm pretty tired, so I saved there and called it a day.



12/20/2015

Played a lot today, but progressed very little. As always, I spawned at Kokiri Village and had to make my way back to Kakariko, where I started my way up the mountain for the first time. Talked to a few Gorons, found out that the entrance to Dodongo's Cavern was blocked presumably by my main-man, Ganondorf. Made my way further up the mountain to Big Brother's lair, where I made the guy dance hilariously by playing Saria's song. He offered me the deal to get rid of the creatures in the Cavern for the Spiritual Stone or whatever. I blew up the rock Ganon had placed in front of the cavern with the bracelet Big Brother gave me, made my way inside.

Right away, I knew I was going to fucking hate this place. The song that plays is just bland, and instantly reminds me of all the shitty levels in other games I've played, like Spider Cave from The Precursor Legacy, or Wet-Dry World from Super Mario 64. Those stupid eyeball things that shoot lasers out of their face were pissing me off, too. Even when I get rid of them using the bombs, nothing happens to open up any doorways. I can't figure out where to go. I have both the compass and the map, I'm just stuck right now. That's why I progressed very little today.

My fairy says I have to kill the eye things with some sort of smoke or something, but what's that going to do? If I can just kill them, why do I need smoke bombs (and I don't even know if those are a thing in this game.)

Wouldn't be terribly against some help at this part, as I got really frustrated. But maybe nothing too definitive. Be vague.



12/16/2015

Didn't get as much done today, but that's alright. Christmas break starts tomorrow so I'll have lots of time to finish this and Wind Waker.

Anyways, I remember saving my game at Hyrule Field, but when I loaded up the game, I was back at Kokiri Village. I ran all the way back to Hyrule Field and tried to get past the Zora's River area, but there were boulders blocking the way and that Owl guy told me to go find Saria. So, I ran all the way back to Kokiri to find her. Spent about 5 minutes looking around, then I realised she's probably in the Lost Forest. Having previously explored that area (in my initial play session), I already knew where I had to go. I learnt her song, and made my way back to Hyrule Field to approach Kakariko Village. The guard laughed at me to get to Death Mountain until I showed him the letter from Zelda, at which point, he opened up the gate. Heeding his advice on buying a Hylian Shield from the Market, I returned to Hyrule Castle. I tried to get his son a popular mask, but it seemed like I couldn't at this point in my playthrough. I saved after returning to Kakiriko.



12/14/2015

Progressed a bit more today. After many attempts, I figured out that you have to hit Gohma in the eye while it's red with some sort of projectile, and while she's stunned, hit her with a powerful "A" lunge. Repeat a few times.

It felt rewarding having to figure that out on my own. It's a philosophy I'm going to carry throughout my playthrough.

After that, I heard the legends or whatever. Got the green stone from the Deku Tree, and made my way to Hyrule Castle. Trying to get into that place was pretty fun -- I messed up a few times, but it's all, again, trial and error. The part where you have to enter the castle at a specific time of day to avoid the patrols was interesting, and felt reminiscent of Shadow Moses Island-levels of sneaking. Nice throwback, there.

After that, we met "Zelda" (I don't think it's her, for some reason. Maybe she's just young, and the "adult" Zelda I'm thinking of will appear later.) Ganondorf was introduced (the man looks so cool), but I was confused. I thought his name was simply Ganon? Or was that he predecessor in the continuity?

I left the game off where Zelda's bodyguard told me to head to Death Mountain or whatever it's called. Seemed like a good place to end. I don't know when or where I'll get Epona, but I hope it's soon.

In conclusion, I know I've already said this, but I enjoy myself more and more with each play session. I'm trying not to rush it (only an hour or so a day), and it's only enticing me more and more. I highly recommend doing this sort of thing from now on.



12/13/2015

I'm trying to play an hour or so a day, but I spent yesterday rearranging my room so I can play Smash Bros. with my friends better, so it was worth it. I'll probably make a "Gaming Setup" thread with the deets.

Anyways...

After a few ill-fated tries at figuring out the puzzles, I made it past the opening in the floor area. Everytime I play the game, I garner more and more enjoyment out of my time. Link's controls are just brilliant. And the subtle difference between holding UP on the joystick while pressing A or just pressing A behind a cube is amazing. Little details like that just make my day.

I got "stuck" (used lightly because it only took my 5~ minutes to figure out) at two parts: the beginning, where you had to use a stick, light it on fire, then burn away the spider webs, and the area just above that, where you need to do the same thing, only you have to swing the stick to hit the webs below you. Couldn't figure out how to swing, lol.

Any who, fell down the whole, defeated those enemies that hide in the ground (don't remember what they're called, but they had the "2-3-1" combination), and made my way through the corridor. Met up with Gohma(?). I tried to defeat her (twice), but I got stuck and figured that would be a good place to finish today. I know I have to do something with her eye, but sword slashes do nothing and I ran out of those walnut things. I'll have to figure it out when I play again.

In conclusion, I'm really enjoying myself. I wish I could play more this week, but I don't think I'll be able to continue until at least Saturday. Depends.



12/12/2015

So, yeah. I explored Kokiri(?) Village, got like 70 rupees, bought a shield. Went into the Lost Woods or whatever, but I couldn't find my way around, and I didn't have a shield at the time so it was pretty challenging.

I entered the Deku Tree area and just obtained the Slingshot. I saved the game right after I jumped through the spiderweb hole in the first room.

First impressions: Link controls beautifully. There are games today that don't put this much effort into their character's motion. Everything feels really fluid. I think it was an... interesting design choice to not have a dedicated jump button (given that it's a platformer-esque game), but it works really well here. It doesn't feel limiting at all.

The combat seems really "tic-tac-toe", which is cool. It seems like it's going to be one of those "easy to learn, hard to master" mechanics.

The music is pretty good, specifically the Deku Tree song. As soon as you step in there, you feel like you're in a Holy place or something...

Graphics are, well... not all that great. I appreciate that the characters have a little more facial animation to them in comparison to some other games, including my favourite released that year (Metal Gear Solid).
Last Edit: December 22, 2015, 09:22:45 PM by Ganon


 
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First impressions: Link controls beautifully. There are games today that don't put this much thought and effort into their character's motion. Everything feels really fluid. I think it was an... interesting design choice to not have a dedicated jump button, but it works really well here. It doesn't feel limiting.

The combat seems really "tic-tac-toe", which is cool because it seems like it's going to be one of those "easy to learn, hard to master" mechanics.

The music pretty good, specifically the Deku Tree song. As soon as you step in there, you feel like you're in a Holy place or something...

Graphics are, well... not all that great. I appreciate that the character have a little more facial animation to them in comparison to my favourite game released that year (Metal Gear Solid).
Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 04:19:08 AM by Elink


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WindWaker doesnt have a jump button either.
in fact... i cant remember any legend of zelda having a jump button.


 
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WindWaker doesnt have a jump button either.
in fact... i cant remember any legend of zelda having a jump button.

Yeah, now that I think about it it isn't that big a deal. Metal Gear doesn't have a jump button, either.

Of course, Zelda is a platformer and Metal Gear isn't, so...
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Yeah, the graphics are shit. Aged really badly. Not that it really matters.

I'm glad you're starting at OoT.


 
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I'm glad you're starting at OoT.

Well I'm probably going to go OoT-Wind Waker-Twilight Princess-Majora's Mask, because I don't always have access to a Nintendo 64.

Roughly how long is the game?


 
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Haven't actually beat it, so I couldn't tell you for sure.

Depending on how often you get stuck (it happens), it could take anywhere from 10 to 20 hours. If not longer.

That's not taking sidequests into account.


 
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I'm glad you're starting at OoT.

Well I'm probably going to go OoT-Wind Waker-Twilight Princess-Majora's Mask, because I don't always have access to a Nintendo 64.

Roughly how long is the game?
Um.......7 years?


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I used to think Ocarina of Time was the best game ever but I changed my mind after couple years.


 
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I used to think Ocarina of Time was the best game ever but I changed my mind after couple years.

And what changed your mind?


 
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Man its been nearly 15 years since I played that game. I remember always watching my older brother and sister play through the game. When they weren't home, I would play Ocarina of Time and I remember loving it even though I didn't know what the hell I was doing.


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I used to think Ocarina of Time was the best game ever but I changed my mind after couple years.

And what changed your mind?
I played its sequel.


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I'm glad you're starting at OoT.

Well I'm probably going to go OoT-Wind Waker-Twilight Princess-Majora's Mask, because I don't always have access to a Nintendo 64.

Roughly how long is the game?
if you just do the main stuff you could do it in a day.


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if you just do the main stuff you could do it in a day.

Even for a newbie like me?


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Backwalking is the fastest.


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Backwalking is the fastest.

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I'd confuse Kokiri and Kakariko village too often


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if you just do the main stuff you could do it in a day.

Even for a newbie like me?
...probably not. im not sure how long it took me to beat the game my first time around. it wouldnt be a good indication either way, i by the time i was able to play i had seen my brother beat it a million times over.


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Is there any downside to playing OoT or Majora's Mask on the GameCube over the N64?


 
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Is there any downside to playing OoT or Majora's Mask on the GameCube over the N64?
Yyyyyes, actually. The shitty thing about the Cube ports is that, particularly in MM, they're both prone to freezing. Every time you enter/exit a room or pause the game, there's a small chance that the game will freeze--which is especially bad on MM, because you actually have to pick when and where you save carefully--you can't just save whenever, so you could lose all your progress multiple times over the course of a playthrough just because of a freeze. It's bad.

On top of that, there's some bad mixing with the music and SFX here and there, and the frame rate suffers when there's too much shit going on. Other than that, they're, uh... passable.
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14/12/2015

I'm trying to play an hour or so a day, but I spent yesterday rearranging my room so I can play Smash Bros. with my friends better, so it was worth it. I'll probably make a "Gaming Setup" thread with the deets.

Anyways...

After a few ill-fated tries at figuring out the puzzles, I made it past the opening in the floor area. Everytime I play the game, I garner more and more enjoyment out of my time. Link's controls are just brilliant. And the subtle difference between holding UP on the joystick while pressing A or just pressing A behind a cube is amazing. Little details like that just make my day.

I got "stuck" (used lightly because it only took my 5~ minutes to figure out) at two parts: the beginning, where you had to use a stick, light it on fire, then burn away the spider webs, and the area just above that, where you need to do the same thing, only you have to swing the stick to hit the webs below you. Couldn't figure out how to swing, lol.

Any who, fell down the whole, defeated those enemies that hide in the ground (don't remember what they're called, but they had the "2-3-1" combination), and made my way through the corridor. Met up with Gohma(?). I tried to defeat her (twice), but I got stuck and figured that would be a good place to finish today. I know I have to do something with her eye, but sword slashes do nothing and I ran out of those walnut things. I'll have to figure it out when I play again.

In conclusion, I'm really enjoying myself. I wish I could play more this week, but I don't think I'll be able to continue until at least Saturday. Depends.


 
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12/14/2015

Progressed a bit more today. After many attempts, I figured out that you have to hit Gohma in the eye while it's red with some sort of projectile, and while she's stunned, hit her with a powerful "A" lunge. Repeat a few times.

It felt rewarding having to figure that out on my own. It's a philosophy I'm going to carry throughout my playthrough.

After that, I heard the legends or whatever. Got the green stone from the Deku Tree, and made my way to Hyrule Castle. Trying to get into that place was pretty fun -- I messed up a few times, but it's all, again, trial and error. The part where you have to enter the castle at a specific time of day to avoid the patrols was interesting, and felt reminiscent of Shadow Moses Island-levels of sneaking. Nice throwback, there.

After that, we met "Zelda" (I don't think it's her, for some reason. Maybe she's just young, and the "adult" Zelda I'm thinking of will appear later.) Ganondorf was introduced (the man looks so cool), but I was confused. I thought his name was simply Ganon? Or was that he predecessor in the continuity?

I left the game off where Zelda's bodyguard told me to head to Death Mountain or whatever it's called. Seemed like a good place to end. I don't know when or where I'll get Epona, but I hope it's soon.

In conclusion, I know I've already said this, but I enjoy myself more and more with each play session. I'm trying not to rush it (only an hour or so a day), and it's only enticing me more and more. I highly recommend doing this sort of thing from now on.


 
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Ganondorf was introduced (the man looks so cool), but I was confused. I thought his name was simply Ganon? Or was that he predecessor in the continuity?
"Ganon" is shorthand. There is an answer, but it's a little spoilery, so I'll tag it for now.

I'm sure you already know this if you've played Brawl, but I'll spoiler it just in case
Technically speaking, "Ganon" refers to his beast form. "Ganondorf" refers strictly to the man.
Lots of people just call him Ganon for short, though.

How open are you to having questions answered?
The game is so old, so it's hard for me to gauge what you know/don't know. I'm trying to be careful.
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After that, we met "Zelda" (I don't think it's her, for some reason. Maybe she's just young, and the "adult" Zelda I'm thinking of will appear later.)


Yeah, I was a bit confused for a similar reason in the game too.

My conjecture from a similar point in the game, but minor spoilers ahead too
I expected some form of time lapse in the game because I'd only seen Adult Link in Smash bros. and was confused as to why you started as a Kid.


 
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"Ganon" is shorthand. There is an answer, but it's a little spoilery, so I'll tag it for now.


It's okay, I already knew he had two forms for... some reason.

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How open are you to having questions answered?
The game is so old, so it's hard for me to gauge what you know/don't know. I'm trying to be careful.

My knowledge on Ocarina of Time specifically is that you eventually go into the future and play as your older self, and that the timeline splits into three depending on if you defeat Ganon as both young and adult Link.

But to answer your question... I simply do NOT want any help when it comes to mechanics/puzzles. I want to figure that out for myself. If I ever say something like "Man, I wonder how you beat Gohma. I know it has something to do with her eye." I don't want someone popping in to tell me how to do it.

A good rule of thumb regarding plot spoilers is that, if I'm going to find out the answer to my question by finishing the game, just don't say anything. And if the answer to my question spoils something that will happen in the game (but doesn't directly occur in the game), just spoiler tag it like you guys have been doing.
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How rude of me. I forgot to thank you guys for your caution and concern.

Thanks.