Have shiny Pokemon lost their meaning?

clum clum · February 05, 2015, 07:00:05 PM

Have shiny Pokemon have lost their specialness? I mean, they are so easy to obtain now. What do you think?

Verbatim · February 05, 2015, 07:03:20 PM

they're a lot less special now, yeah

someone told me they lost meaning since AR was invented, but like, you don't have to use AR
just like you don't have to use any methods or tricks to get any

but i mean, they even increased the chance of you finding one in the wild--the one "legit" way
and it shows--i once found two shinies practically back to back in Gen VI, just by walking in grass

edit:
that actually had a 1/16,777,216 chance of happening
that's pretty intense

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · February 05, 2015, 07:04:56 PM

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Verbatim · February 05, 2015, 07:07:55 PM

FYI, the previous probability was 1/8192

now it's 1/4096

1/819 if you're taking hordes into account

CK97 · February 05, 2015, 07:11:01 PM

Yeah, they aren't as special as they used to be. Hacks are prevalent, and the odds of encountering one in Gen 6 was reduced.

Miia · February 05, 2015, 07:17:56 PM

I mean i still freak out when i get one

月 · February 05, 2015, 07:19:31 PM

Shiny Pokemon still have their meaning. They are rare Pokemon with minor color changes to their pallet. They are nice easter eggs and are still a commodity amount traders. Matsuda Method and other methods take hours and sometimes days to get even 1 Shiny Pokemon.

Shiny Charm is a decent motivator to complete the Pokedex and as such is a proper reward for collectors.

Verbatim · February 05, 2015, 07:20:47 PM

what i really hate is people who soft reset

like, fuck you dude
that takes away ALL the fun

i actually have a friend who's little brother got a shiny cyndaquil on his first play of heartgold

Onion · February 05, 2015, 07:21:34 PM

Odds were reduced, significantly more in Friend Safari. You could find almost one every hour in there. Then there's a chain fishing too, but every knows that's for scrubs.

Luis · February 05, 2015, 07:25:29 PM

That last shiny I caught was back in Diamond

The Lord Ruler · February 05, 2015, 08:51:24 PM

>tfw i never had a shiny

clum clum · February 05, 2015, 09:38:42 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 05, 2015, 07:20:47 PM

what i really hate is people who soft reset

like, fuck you dude
that takes away ALL the fun

i actually have a friend who's little brother got a shiny cyndaquil on his first play of heartgold

It's understandable for legendaries though because there are no other methods to obtain their shiny versions asides from dumb luck.

clum clum · February 05, 2015, 09:40:12 PM

Quote from: Latsu on February 05, 2015, 07:19:31 PM

Shiny Pokemon still have their meaning. They are rare Pokemon with minor color changes to their pallet. They are nice easter eggs and are still a commodity amount traders. Matsuda Method and other methods take hours and sometimes days to get even 1 Shiny Pokemon.

Shiny Charm is a decent motivator to complete the Pokedex and as such is a proper reward for collectors.

Some shinies have major changes to their pallet, such as Giratina.

Then we have Garchomp.

CK97 · February 05, 2015, 09:46:58 PM

Greninja is the best looking shiny.

Fact.

Flee · February 05, 2015, 09:54:15 PM

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SecondClass · February 06, 2015, 02:09:03 AM

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on February 05, 2015, 08:51:24 PM

>tfw i never had a shiny

Mr. Psychologist · February 06, 2015, 02:50:52 AM

A little bit, yeah.

I think it depends on how you got it though.

Say you SR'd 3000 times to get it, that's a lot of work so the reward of finally getting the shiny will probably make it quite special for you. Same with Masuda Method, even if it's a guaranteed shiny eventually the effort/work put in makes the reward a bit more special.

Hacks/ARs though, that takes all of the fun away.

I've got quite a lot of shinies from all of the methods apart from SR/Hacks and I think this is roughly how I'd rank it in terms of satisfaction for finding.

1. Masuda Method
2. Random Encounter
3. Wondertrade
4. Chaining

Ish.

Alexandra Stuk Luv · February 06, 2015, 03:09:41 AM

The meaning behind your Pokemon is the one you make it out to be. If you love your team, and each Pokemon in it then their worth goes as far you desire. Shiny Pokemon are rare, but they are even more unique. I think that Pokemon is the only game that the worth of a Pokemon goes as far as the player makes it out to be.

I never regretted trading a Charizard for a Lapras albeit some people mocked me. I love that Lapras.

SecondClass · February 06, 2015, 03:44:27 AM

Quote from: Alexandra Stuk Luv on February 06, 2015, 03:09:41 AM

The meaning behind your Pokemon is the one you make it out to be. If you love your team, and each Pokemon in it then their worth goes as far you desire. Shiny Pokemon are rare, but they are even more unique. I think that Pokemon is the only game that the worth of a Pokemon goes as far as the player makes it out to be.

I never regretted trading a Charizard for a Lapras albeit some people mocked me. I love that Lapras.

I like this post a lot

gats · February 06, 2015, 04:35:12 AM

I've played pretty much every generation and I've only found one.

Mat Cauthon · February 06, 2015, 05:12:18 AM

TFW the only shiny I ever got was the Red Gyarados.

DAS B00T x2 · February 06, 2015, 06:51:46 AM

The only meaning they ever had to me was quicker EV training from the pokerus. Those training minigames made that obsolete.

I tend to prefer most regular pokemons' colors to their shinies' anyway.

Onion · February 06, 2015, 07:01:41 AM

Quote from: CK97 on February 05, 2015, 09:46:58 PM

Greninja is the best looking shiny.

Fact.

I think you mean Golurk.

ban me · February 06, 2015, 07:17:06 AM

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CK97 · February 06, 2015, 07:35:39 AM

Quote from: Orion on February 06, 2015, 07:01:41 AM

Quote from: CK97 on February 05, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Greninja is the best looking shiny.

Fact.
I think you mean Golurk.

I'll admit, it does look cool. I have one.

Flee · February 06, 2015, 08:22:45 AM

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A salt rifle · February 06, 2015, 10:53:28 AM

Quote from: Numb Digger on February 05, 2015, 09:40:12 PM

Quote from: Latsu on February 05, 2015, 07:19:31 PM
Shiny Pokemon still have their meaning. They are rare Pokemon with minor color changes to their pallet. They are nice easter eggs and are still a commodity amount traders. Matsuda Method and other methods take hours and sometimes days to get even 1 Shiny Pokemon.

Shiny Charm is a decent motivator to complete the Pokedex and as such is a proper reward for collectors.

Some shinies have major changes to their pallet, such as Giratina.

Then we have Garchomp.

Verbatim · February 06, 2015, 10:59:51 AM

Quote from: ⱭAS ᗺ00T x2 on February 06, 2015, 06:51:46 AM

The only meaning they ever had to me was quicker EV training from the pokerus. Those training minigames made that obsolete.

I tend to prefer most regular pokemons' colors to their shinies' anyway.

Not every shiny has Pokérus, though. In fact, I'm pretty sure shinies have the same chance of having Pokérus as any other Pokémon. That is to say, 1/21,845.

clum clum · February 06, 2015, 11:01:11 AM

Quote from: Atticus on February 06, 2015, 10:53:28 AM

Quote from: Numb Digger on February 05, 2015, 09:40:12 PM
Quote from: Latsu on February 05, 2015, 07:19:31 PM
Shiny Pokemon still have their meaning. They are rare Pokemon with minor color changes to their pallet. They are nice easter eggs and are still a commodity amount traders. Matsuda Method and other methods take hours and sometimes days to get even 1 Shiny Pokemon.

Shiny Charm is a decent motivator to complete the Pokedex and as such is a proper reward for collectors.

Some shinies have major changes to their pallet, such as Giratina.

Then we have Garchomp.

In 6th gen Shiny Garchomp isn't as bad, though. Especially his mega.

DAS B00T x2 · February 06, 2015, 11:03:36 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on February 06, 2015, 10:59:51 AM

Quote from: ⱭAS ᗺ00T x2 on February 06, 2015, 06:51:46 AM
The only meaning they ever had to me was quicker EV training from the pokerus. Those training minigames made that obsolete.

I tend to prefer most regular pokemons' colors to their shinies' anyway.
Not every shiny has Pokérus, though. In fact, I'm pretty sure shinies have the same chance of having Pokérus as any other Pokémon. That is to say, 1/21,845.

Oh, I had thought they carried it more before...