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Nah, I'm just bullshitting. There's really no stated reason how Solid is inferior, and the entire plot point got dropped by the time Sons of Liberty rolled around.

presumably things like 20/20 vision, predisposition to physical attributes like agility and strength, instincts and stuff could make one superior to the other

fortunately that doesn't matter

I wonder why Liquid was so pissed off about his genes in the first place. He was an indestructible blonde Brit with a sexy accent and an IQ of 180; what does he have to feel inferior about?

Though I guess it makes sense how he was actually superior given the above description.


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We don't even know the extent that their genes were altered.
Like, near sightedness is dominant, but I doubt that Solid was altered to have bad vision because it'd be counterproductive to the Les Enfants Terribles program.

Stuff like brown (dominant) eyes vs. blue eyes (recessive), or dimples when you smile (dominant) vs.  no dimples when you smile (recessive) doesn't make someone inferior or superior.


 
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I didn't understand the relevance part.

And if Solid had the dominant genes, why would he be less efficient?

the dominant genes just happened to be less efficient at being a soldier i guess


and what relevance part? what joke?
"at least this will have some relevance, eh Plotmaster?"

I didn't understand that, but I guess it was unrelated.


 
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Nah, I'm just bullshitting. There's really no stated reason how Solid is inferior, and the entire plot point got dropped by the time Sons of Liberty rolled around.

presumably things like 20/20 vision, predisposition to physical attributes like agility and strength, instincts and stuff could make one superior to the other

fortunately that doesn't matter

I wonder why Liquid was so pissed off about his genes in the first place. He was an indestructible blonde Brit with a sexy accent and an IQ of 180; what does he have to feel inferior about?

Though I guess it makes sense how he was actually superior given the above description.
No idea. Liquid seemed to be bad for no reason other than "Muh daddy's Outer Heaven" or something retarded.

He was just a giant man child. Why Ocelot worked for him too, I will never know.


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He and I had a big argument over who had the dominant genes and who had the recessive genes. It ended when I admitted that he had the dominant genes and I had the recessive ones.

Then I got killed by FoxDie.


 
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Yeah like, Liquid was a shit character honestly. His motivations for having a terrorist group seemed shallow at best. At least Solidus had a reason to fight and rebel against the Patriots, though he went about it the wrong way and was a bad guy for it.


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Liquid wanted to prove he was better than his brother and father, which was all part of the Patriots' plan because everything is part of the Patriots' plan. In hindsight I guess a lifetime of being told his only reason for existing was to be inferior to Solid would leave him extremely bitter about his life.

Solidus was just an uberpatriot who wanted to leave his mark on history.


 
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It's funny because everyone fucking loves Liquid off

but Solidus, who is a far better character IMO, is hated

like fuck you, unenlightened masses


 
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We don't even know the extent that their genes were altered.
Like, near sightedness is dominant, but I doubt that Solid was altered to have bad vision because it'd be counterproductive to the Les Enfants Terribles program.

I think in the context of the Metal Gear universe, traits aren't relegated to dominant or recessive

like, for example, blue eyes are necessarily recessive in the MGS universe like they are in real life

it just so happens that Big Boss's blue eyes were recessive

but my blue eye genes could be dominant

yknow what im saying?


basically, everyone has two potential gene pools. your sprinting speed could be 15km/h as your dominant gene or 20km/h as your recessive

it's the only way it makes sense, realistically in the MGS universe


 
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It's funny because everyone fucking loves Liquid off

but Solidus, who is a far better character IMO, is hated

like fuck you, unenlightened masses
It's because of the one liners Liquid spouted honestly. That makes him loveable.

IT'S NOT OVER YET!!!!

BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

etc etc


 
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It's amazing how much genes influence you


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Clarke was amazing as Liquid,  yeah

better in the lion king tho


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I hear Kojima clarified in an interview that Liquid had no clue what he was talking about when he ranted about genes and asymmetry theory, but that doesn't lay the whole gene thing to rest because Solid was flat-out stated by Ocelot to be inferior.


 
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we need more metal gear fans honestly

this thread is basically a circle jerk of me plotmaster and lemon


 
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Spoiler

So who is that Solidus guy anyway?

edit: okay now we're good
Last Edit: August 20, 2015, 06:55:18 PM by Liquid Plotmaster


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It's funny because everyone fucking loves Liquid off

but Solidus, who is a far better character IMO, is hated

like fuck you, unenlightened masses
It's because of the one liners Liquid spouted honestly. That makes him loveable.

IT'S NOT OVER YET!!!!

BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

etc etc
https://youtu.be/lO2Zp4nwsFA?t=207


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We don't even know the extent that their genes were altered.
Like, near sightedness is dominant, but I doubt that Solid was altered to have bad vision because it'd be counterproductive to the Les Enfants Terribles program.

I think in the context of the Metal Gear universe, traits aren't relegated to dominant or recessive

like, for example, blue eyes are necessarily recessive in the MGS universe like they are in real life

it just so happens that Big Boss's blue eyes were recessive

but my blue eye genes could be dominant

yknow what im saying?


basically, everyone has two potential gene pools. your sprinting speed could be 15km/h as your dominant gene or 20km/h as your recessive

it's the only way it makes sense, realistically in the MGS universe
Blue eyes aren't dominant (irl)

I dunno. It could just be dominant and recessive physical attributes that Solid and Liquid have, respectively, but Liquid being told he's inferior, and that recessive genes are inferior, his entire life led him to believe it, and resulted in him hating his existence and hating Solid.



 
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Spoiler

So who is that Solidus guy anyway?

edit: okay now we're good
That was funny


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So who is that Solidus guy anyway?

edit: okay now we're good
That was funny

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Here, have another.


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I was just thinking the same thing. The hype on this board is through the roof.


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Just like Halo 4!

It's more akin to Halo 3, like I said.

Seriously it's an awful game.
He means the nanomachines (son) part. Halo 4 uses them as explanations for some things.

This ^

nanotechnology is the explanation for why John's armour magically changed between games. I think people were using as an explanation for the Forward unto Dawn at some point as well.


They can upgrade his armor, but they still can't fix those scratches he's had since Halo 3. #logic
That scarring on his breastplate can possibly be because he crashed into Requiem, unshielded.
You don't see his armour from the neck down from the front until after you crash. Using co-op to view it doesn't count because co-op isn't canon, and wasting resources on two Chief models is pointless.

That or the scarring is there because of artistic design.
I believe they confirmed it's the latter >.>


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Just like Halo 4!

It's more akin to Halo 3, like I said.

Seriously it's an awful game.
He means the nanomachines (son) part. Halo 4 uses them as explanations for some things.

This ^

nanotechnology is the explanation for why John's armour magically changed between games. I think people were using as an explanation for the Forward unto Dawn at some point as well.


They can upgrade his armor, but they still can't fix those scratches he's had since Halo 3. #logic
That scarring on his breastplate can possibly be because he crashed into Requiem, unshielded.
You don't see his armour from the neck down from the front until after you crash. Using co-op to view it doesn't count because co-op isn't canon, and wasting resources on two Chief models is pointless.

That or the scarring is there because of artistic design.
I believe they confirmed it's the latter >.>
Yeah but the former still works