Do you still have faith in 343 or Bungie?

UnwornUniform · December 20, 2014, 09:06:43 AM

343 and Bungie are both developers that we all hoped would do well with our franchises and then kind of didn't. Halo 4 although I enjoyed it was a bit of a mess & Destiny... I don't really want to talk about Destiny for a long while.

I think 343 might do well with Halo 5 they seem to be listening to the community (finally) and the multiplayer looks like it might actually be decent. The campaign however we'll have to wait and see. If it follows the same strides as Halo 4's campaign then I'm most likely going to be disappointed.

Bungie though seems to be completely ignoring what a large portion of the community is saying and only accommodating to the small percentage of people who enjoy the game rather then improve it for everyone else. Considering how The Dark Below pretty much adressed none of the many issues that the base game brought up and the fact that the "expansion" was on the disc, I don't really know what to think of Bungie any more. Oh how the great have fallen.

Please Discuss.

Septy · December 20, 2014, 09:18:31 AM

Nope, Bungie is ruined and 343i is still trying their hardest to kill Halo. I expect the multiplayer and campaign to be as shit as Halo 4.

RomanGladiator · December 20, 2014, 09:24:32 AM

I have a fear 343i will take something away that has been a staple of past Halos. Seven maps in the beta, all of them small arena maps. How many large vehicular warfare maps does that leave us with? Three? Unless there is an entirely different portion of the multiplayer dedicated to BTB.

As for Bungie, no hope

Girl of Mystery · December 20, 2014, 09:25:35 AM

Don't give a shit about Bungie or what they do now.

343 I have faith in. They did a great job with Halo 4's campaign/story, but the MP wasn't so good.
Halo 5's MP is looking pretty damn good though, and I'm certain they'll do another great job with the campaign/story in Halo 5 too.

Tyger · December 20, 2014, 09:28:28 AM

I'm done with Bungie and I never had faith in 343 because I'm done with halo.

RadicalClass32 · December 20, 2014, 09:54:49 AM

Bungie is Activison's slave now. So I practically don't care anymore.

343i did a good job with the beta.So who knows what they have up their sleeve next.

Sprungli · December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM

Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5

Septy · December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM

Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5

Bungie was founded in 1991.

Comet · December 20, 2014, 10:22:09 AM

lolno. i dont have faith in any dev. they just want your money. i can hope a game turns out for the best, thats about it.

Word Wizard · December 20, 2014, 10:29:39 AM

I'd rather play the worst Halo over Destiny any day.

Statefarm · December 20, 2014, 10:40:17 AM

Halo 5 multiplayer isn't very impressive I don't have much faith. They messed up MCC as well but at least they are actively working on it

Korra · December 20, 2014, 11:11:37 AM

I still have faith that God will nerf those dang terrorists.

Mr. Psychologist · December 20, 2014, 11:13:59 AM

In Bungie? No.
They fired marty and density turned out to be bleugh. They are jewing to the max with a £20 expansion that would make EA proud and I expect things will only get worse with DeeJ's sickly PR bollocks being used to sugarcoat the ramrod that is used to sodomise the customer.

In 343? Not really.
Halo 4 was... ehh... but training wheels. They kind of derped with the MCC at launch but I don't hold that against them because 4 games on one disc is ambitious as hell >.>
I'm indifferent to Halo 5, if it turns out to be shite then that's the final nail in the coffin for Halo (in my book anyway).

There aren't many studios that I have any faith left in, just ones that I kind of like/wait for their next game to come out.

BaconShelf · December 20, 2014, 11:58:55 AM

I refuse to have anything to do with Bungie.

343 is doing great so far.

PSU · December 20, 2014, 12:08:19 PM

I can't speak about Bungie because I dont play destiny.

But no, I dont have faith in 343. With the release of H4 and MCC both games being really disappointing, the only good thing they have done in my eyes is ZBNS Reach.

Don't get me wrong, the gameplay of H2A is good and I love being able to play H2 and H3 again, but everything besides the gameplay has been fucked up.

Sprungli · December 20, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5
Bungie was founded in 1991.

Fuck, i put 10 for H2 instead of CE, and then was lazy and just took away 3. Total screwup

Doctor Doom · December 20, 2014, 01:59:59 PM

Lost faith in Bungie, and never had faith in 343.

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Nick McIntyre · December 20, 2014, 03:06:46 PM

If you asked me when Halo 4 came out, definitely Bungie.

Post-Destiny, Bungie has turned out to be a corrupted shell of its former self, no thanks to signing on with Activision.

343 on the other hand, I can still kind of trust. MCC multiplayer launch fiasco aside, I'm excited to see what kind of story they can dish out for Halo 5. What I'm NOT excited for is that some 343 execs sound like they're going to milk Halo for every penny, and continue with games after Halo 6 so we might be seeing Halo 7: Black Flag or w/e subtitle they'll come up with next.

Word Wizard · December 20, 2014, 03:56:15 PM

I realized I didn't answer the question with my first post. After Reach and Destiny I have no faith in Bungie or care about them. 343i I feel really tries just certain people higher up force their hands. With the amount of backlash though it seems those higher ups have been reigned in significantly. If I like the beta for H5 I'd say my faith in them is restored.

Septy · December 20, 2014, 03:57:33 PM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5
Bungie was founded in 1991.
Fuck, i put 10 for H2 instead of CE, and then was lazy and just took away 3. Total screwup

Also 343i was founded in 2007

General Trollius · December 20, 2014, 04:06:52 PM

343i has been doing fine so far, they shouldn't have hired those shitty companies that released MCC but hopefully they will never hire them again.

I don't like Bungie anymore due to the Expansion Pack BS.

Naoto · December 20, 2014, 04:22:18 PM

I have more faith in 343 w/ Hola 5 than I do in Bungie w/ Destiny 2.
Not particularly waiting in fevered anticipation for either though.

Sprungli · December 20, 2014, 04:27:53 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 03:57:33 PM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5
Bungie was founded in 1991.
Fuck, i put 10 for H2 instead of CE, and then was lazy and just took away 3. Total screwup
Also 343i was founded in 2007

Then what were they doing for 3 years before Reach?

General Trollius · December 20, 2014, 04:29:49 PM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 04:27:53 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5
Bungie was founded in 1991.
Fuck, i put 10 for H2 instead of CE, and then was lazy and just took away 3. Total screwup
Also 343i was founded in 2007
Then what were they doing for 3 years before Reach?

Weren't they the ones releasing Halo animes?

Septy · December 20, 2014, 04:31:39 PM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 04:27:53 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5
Bungie was founded in 1991.
Fuck, i put 10 for H2 instead of CE, and then was lazy and just took away 3. Total screwup
Also 343i was founded in 2007
Then what were they doing for 3 years before Reach?

Good question

Sprungli · December 20, 2014, 04:36:04 PM

Quote from: Kaiser on December 20, 2014, 04:29:49 PM

Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 04:27:53 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 01:07:55 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 10:17:39 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on December 20, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Bungie is dead. 343 are doing well, if you watch any of the documentaries with 343 it seems like the studio is now at the stage where you could easily begin to draw comparisons to the Bungie of yesteryear, I think that they will naturally continue to make mistakes but their hearts are in the right place-I have 100% faith that 343 will make something special, even if that may not come for a few years yet. Remember Bungie were around 10 years when they made H2 (7 for CE). 343 are less than 5
Bungie was founded in 1991.
Fuck, i put 10 for H2 instead of CE, and then was lazy and just took away 3. Total screwup
Also 343i was founded in 2007
Then what were they doing for 3 years before Reach?
Weren't they the ones releasing Halo animes?

Oh I do remember that, but as a games studio i'm pretty sure they've only been active since 2010

Mattie G Indahouse · December 20, 2014, 05:42:10 PM

With 343 I do. The campaign to Halo 4 wasn't bad. It has a story and the levels are not boring. Sure I wouldn't go back to them but I found them to be funnier than Reach and some for Halo 3. The MP in Halo 4 wasn't bad either. The maps is what kept me from playing it. I didn't find them to be as fun as the ones in Halo 3. Right now I'm playing the Halo 5 beta. The new zoom is great, the weapons are great and I like that there's a health bar. If they don't do anything stupid this should be both a good and a good Halo game.

With Bungie I have no trust in the mat all. The campaign to Halo 3 I find to be shit, Reach is just shit and Destiny is shit as well. I have no hope and trust in them at all.

Sigma617 · December 20, 2014, 08:26:28 PM

My faith in 343 ebbs and flows.

As for Bungie, never again will I trust them after what they did.

Mr. Admirals · December 20, 2014, 09:05:15 PM

Quote from: Septy on December 20, 2014, 09:18:31 AM

Nope, Bungie is ruined and 343i is still trying their hardest to kill Halo. I expect the multiplayer and campaign to be as shit as Halo 4.

The cringe is real.