Defending TLOU (Xbox fanboys, come here please)

 
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I just posted this on a YouTube comment section where many people were talking about how the game was "average at best", blah, blah, blah. You've heard it all before.

It's one of my favourite games of all time, and would enjoy a debate about it.

Anyways, here it is:

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Ignoring the story (which is unarguably, a masterpiece), the gameplay is also great. It's not on the same level as the story, but it doesn't hinder the experience in any way. The problem with this game is that it NEEDS to be played on the higher difficulties. When I first picked this up for my PS4, I played it on the easiest difficulty (I used to play games out-the-box on their hardest difficulty, but stopped after Uncharted. I felt it ruined the experience for me.) I beat it within 8 hours, and had to admit, the game was over-hyped and average at best. But, me, being the trophy hunter I am, decided to try the hardest difficulty.

And the experience changed completely.

Suddenly, death was meaningful and often times, brutally punishing. You could last through 3 waves of Clickers or runners, managing your various supplies and 3 bullets for your magnum, and then suddenly forget about the one wounded enemy you thought you finished off earlier, which makes you start off all the way from the beginning. You had to carefully choose when to shoot a round and when to toss a brick. It is a carefully crafted, intricate survival system that, if taken out of the game, actually degrades the overall product.

Same goes for the cover system. While a traditional system might've helped some players enjoy the game more (initially), I think having the current system helps the game break out from the conventions of it's genre and deliver the experience ND wanted to.


Truthfully, the only complaint I would consider valid is the AI, both enemy and ally. It is straight-up, RETARDED. This is disheartening, consider the E3 trailer showed off incredibly intelligent AI that would've made this already difficult game on a whole other level. But I don't need to harp on that, Dunkey already demonstrated what I'm talking about.

This is just my two cents. Take it or leave it, I'd love to have a discussion if your opinion differs.


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I don't think we fanboy here..



I hope not


 
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I hope not

I've seen a few. It was more to grab people's attention than anything else.


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Ladder climbing and bottle and brick throwing simulator.

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Played it on my PS3, 10/10 game


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Honestly one of my most favourite games.

The apocalypse end of civilization story itself isn't a masterpiece, but the way it's told and how the characters develop is what makes it what it is.


 
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Honestly one of my most favourite games.

The apocalypse end of civilization story itself isn't a masterpiece, but the way it's told and how the characters develop is what makes it what it is.

Exactly. Were it not for the AI, I'd argue this game is flawless.


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Rented it on Redbox one night and was blown away, I need to finish this game ;_;


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Honestly one of my most favourite games.

The apocalypse end of civilization story itself isn't a masterpiece, but the way it's told and how the characters develop is what makes it what it is.

Exactly. Were it not for the AI, I'd argue this game is flawless.
Ellie's and Tess' AI were pretty rubbish. The fact that enemies wouldn't detect them unless you've been detected yourself is annoying.


 
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Honestly one of my most favourite games.

The apocalypse end of civilization story itself isn't a masterpiece, but the way it's told and how the characters develop is what makes it what it is.

Exactly. Were it not for the AI, I'd argue this game is flawless.
Ellie's and Tess' AI were pretty rubbish. The fact that enemies wouldn't detect them unless you've been detected yourself is annoying.

Look at this, though.

http://youtu.be/kbLOokeC3VU?t=3m28s

Look how the enemy knows when you're mag is empty. Or how they flank you and try to blindside you.

Obviously it's a demo, so it's supposed to look pretty for marketing purposes. But I remember reading somewhere that the AI was even more advanced than this and it was cut because it was too hard. It's just a shame.


 
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It's an alright game.


 
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It's an alright game.

What are your complaints. That's what I'm asking for.


 
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It's an alright game.

What are your complaints. That's what I'm asking for.
that's the highest compliment it's going to get from me.
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Gameplay was very smooth and I enjoyed it. AI needed a little work though only complaint really...


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I play on Xbox so I've only ever watched playthroughs of it. However the story is fantastic. The gameplay looks a bit average to be honest then again I haven't played it. I'd like to know what your opinion is on The Walking Dead game? I thought the story was a lot more effective then Tlou's but they're both good in each respect.


 
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I play on Xbox so I've only ever watched playthroughs of it. However the story is fantastic. The gameplay looks a bit average to be honest then again I haven't played it. I'd like to know what your opinion is on The Walking Dead game? I thought the story was a lot more effective then Tlou's but they're both good in each respect.

To be honest, I've never played TWD. I generally stay away from the zombie genre, as I see that it's pretty played out. The only reason I picked up TLOU was because ND has always made some of my favourite games (aside from Uncharted, which I really can't enjoy for some reason).

If someone bought it for me, I'd probably play it for an hour and see if I liked it. But other than that, I don't see myself playing it.


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I play on Xbox so I've only ever watched playthroughs of it. However the story is fantastic. The gameplay looks a bit average to be honest then again I haven't played it. I'd like to know what your opinion is on The Walking Dead game? I thought the story was a lot more effective then Tlou's but they're both good in each respect.

To be honest, I've never played TWD. I generally stay away from the zombie genre, as I see that it's pretty played out. The only reason I picked up TLOU was because ND has always made some of my favourite games (aside from Uncharted, which I really can't enjoy for some reason).

If someone bought it for me, I'd probably play it for an hour and see if I liked it. But other than that, I don't see myself playing it.
If you enjoyed the story of Tlou, then you'll probably enjoy TWD. There really isn't that much gameplay to speak of apart from a very few amount of puzzles that are actually kind off difficult not really. It's pretty much a choose your own adventure book that only has 2 endings. The only thing that really changes when you play it is the characters opinions of you which makes re-playability a bit high. But if you like games with good stories TWD is definitely all there. Season 2 however is kind off lacking but it's still pretty good and The Wolf Among Us is fantastic also.


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Season 2 however is kind off lacking
No
Compared to Season 1, Season 2 was nowhere near as good. That's just my opinion though.


 
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I saw how bad the AI is, but still a nicely developed game with few flaws.


 
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I saw how bad the AI is, but still a nicely developed game with few flaws.

What are it's flaws?


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But... I wasnt fun. I bought a PS3 for the sole reason just to play TLOU, and i was let down.


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Its usually not worth arguing with people about. Opinions are opinions. Even if they're stupid.
I do feel like had that game come out as a 360 exclusive a lot of bnet/sep7 would have suddenly loved it.


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The single game exclusive to PS that interested me.


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The best Zombie game is SSO, it's like Shaun of the Dead if it were American, did drugs and drunk exclusively energy drinks and alcopops
These games aren't even comparable, and SSO has the dumbest story ever. Actually now that I think about these games are basically opposites


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It's not my type of game. It feels clunky sometimes in it's game mechanics, Uncharted 3 had this problem too, but it's story holds it up a lot.

8/10. Had fun playing it. Probably won't play it again.


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The best Zombie game is SSO, it's like Shaun of the Dead if it were American, did drugs and drunk exclusively energy drinks and alcopops
These games aren't even comparable, and SSO has the dumbest story ever. Actually now that I think about these games are basically opposites
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The best Zombie game is SSO, it's like Shaun of the Dead if it were American, did drugs and drunk exclusively energy drinks and alcopops
TLoU isn't a zombie game. SSOD and TLoU aren't comparable in the slightest


 
 
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...Absolute shit! Story overly saturated in sappy emotion that interfears with muh gameplay.

So linear that it was more a movie, than an actual game. David Cage must have made it...


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Out of all apocalyptic scenarios zombie-like plagues are my least favorite so I don't have much interest in it.
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