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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
It is objectively better. Its endless features and peripherals. Its library of games (total count) is like all console generations combined and then some. It doesn't just play games, you can use this machine for all sort of things, free online services too. You can connect your PC to a tv or a monitor, you can use any controller you want. you have the ability to properly stream games, you can type messages faster to people you are playing with using the keyboard, the mouse is objectively better than a thumbstick.
Okay, but I don't understand why any of this makes it objectively better.

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How are mods bad?
Not getting into it; my thoughts have been on record for years and I can't be assed to explain why again.
Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.
Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.

Are mods bad even when developers support them and pay mod makers to make more mods? What about things like DOTA ( a mod of WOW) or CS (a mod of Half-life) ?
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Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.
Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.
Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.


 
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Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.
Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.
Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.
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Come on
DUDE MATERIAL POSSESSIONS LMAO


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If you know, you know.
Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.
Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.
Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.
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Come on
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Superior and inferior things do not exist in your world?


 
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Think of it like - a superior product. Like a car or something. A Golf gets you from A to B, but so does a Bugatti or a Mustang.
Good luck trying to argue that a Golf is better than a Bugatti tbh.
Why is a Bugatti better than a Golf? They're both just cars.
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Come on
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Superior and inferior things do not exist in your world?
Only if you set goals and parameters do such concepts exist, but those goals and parameters are subjective by nature.

If you like going fast, then the faster car is objectively better--for you, but not in general.

Some people don't give a fuck about going fast.

The same applies to pretty much everything, including gaming.


 
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They do, they're just not to your liking you silly slut. If we're talking about exclusives that is.

No one is gonna give a shit about uh... idk, Battlefield on either.
but that's my point--you're gonna prefer the platform that actually has the games you want on it

if you want to play console games, then bada-bing bada-boom, console gaming is probably better for you

my problem with fatherlynick is that he's trying to argue that PC gaming is "objectively superior," when what he means to say is, "i personally prefer PC gaming"--there's nothing objective about it

if more PC gamers learned how to say that, the world would be a better place
Sounds like you more so hate the culture surrounding it than the actual platform, which I easily understand.

That being said, I find exclusives in of itself a massive fucking meme, and most exclusives, bar one or two, are shit anyway. Most games worth talking about are cross platform. Obviously you can't have some PC games on console since the controller can be impracticable with some of em.


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The physical store and human interaction will always trump online bullshit.
wat

Software should never have been distributed physically after the internet came to be.
Bottom line.


 
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I'm materialistic because I recognize that a Bugatti is a better car than a Golf?

It's an insult to the people who worked on and made the buggati. You're telling them all the time and effort they put into making an excellent car meant nothing, because it's basically the same as a Golf because they're both cars.

It's as if you give two students a C even though one of them deserves an A because they both handed in an essay.

Argue about you simply not enjoying PC gaming all you like. That's fine, and I respect your opinion. But don't make stupid statements like this.
lmao like i give a fuck if it's an insult, it's the truth

You give the best student an A instead of a C because you've established a subjective standard upon which the students would be measured against. Keyword subjective.

The assignment could be to write the shittiest essay possible--and suddenly, the standard is changed. That's what I'm talking about.

When you're talking about objective standards, you're talking about ceasing all subjective standards--which is why, yeah, under an objective lens, you could give all students the same grade on their essay, because there's no such thing as an objective all-encompassing standard upon which to grade essays. It's all subjective.


 
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That being said, I find exclusives in of itself a massive fucking meme, and most exclusives, bar one or two, are shit anyway.
Nonsense

You're basically throwing every 1st to 6th generation console into the bin with that statement. Especially Nintendo.
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Damn you're really reaching hard.

Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.
According to subjective standards that you made up.


 
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Damn you're really reaching hard.

Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.
It's the same reason why grades aren't an objective thing across professors. An A to one prof might be a B to another. There is no set, objective standard of a grade. I think that's what Verb is going for.


 
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Damn you're really reaching hard.

Somebody who can't write for shit doesn't deserve an A. Just like a Bugatti is objectively better than a Golf.
According to subjective standards that you made up.
So if I'm faster than stronger than you, I'm actually not because something?
No, you'd still be faster and stronger than me. Adjectives have these in-built standards that make them more concrete than more lofty concepts like overall quality. You may be faster and stronger than me, but that does not necessarily make you BETTER than me, objectively, without any regard for subjective standards like foot races or wrestling matches or whatever.

Under the context of a weakness test, if I were weaker than you, then that would make me better than you.

We don't think about these things because we don't have weakness contests.


 
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male, he/him

dracula can eat my whole ass!
Under the context of a weakness test, if I were weaker than you, then that would make me better than you.

We don't think about these things because we don't have weakness contests.

lol


 
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Physically I'd be objectively better than you.
Yes, under the arbitrary subjective standard of "physically."

But even then, not really, because "physically" is kinda vague. I assume you mean "in terms of physical strength."
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Physically I'd be objectively better than you.
Yes, under the arbitrary subjective standard of "physically."

But even then, not really, because "physically" is kinda vague. I assume you mean "in terms of physical strength."
I'd be healthier, stronger, whatever. I'd be better.
By those standards, yes.

But if a film director is looking for someone weak and unhealthy for their lead actor, then between you and me, I'd be the objectively better option. You're not thinking hard enough about this.


 
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A film director is irrelevant. I'm saying objectively I'm better. A faster car is better than a slower car. Not to mention the better technology and the craftsmanship that goes into it.
Why is my example irrelevant while yours isn't?


 
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The only reason you say a faster car is "objectively better" than a slower car is because, 99.99% of the time, the average person is going to find more practical use out of the faster car.

But that's not 100%. Though rare, there are still situations where the slower car would be objectively better.

This means that it's not objective. It doesn't matter, even if it's the smallest most abstract counterexample--if it exists, then there's no objectivity and the choice between the faster car and slower car is a matter of personal preference.

Most people prefer the faster one, but that doesn't make it objectively superior.

This isn't difficult.


 
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The only reason you say a faster car is "objectively better" than a slower car is because, 99.99% of the time, the average person is going to find more practical use out of the faster car.

But that's not 100%. Though rare, there are still situations where the slower car would be objectively better.

This means that it's not objective. It doesn't matter, even if it's the smallest most abstract counterexample--if it exists, then there's no objectivity and the choice between the faster car and slower car is a matter of personal preference.

Most people prefer the faster one, but that doesn't make it objectively superior.

This isn't difficult.
A shitty hatchback is better than a supercar how?
Maybe you're filming a movie where everybody has a hatchback, because they're all poor as fuck, and having a supercar in the background would be incredibly out of place.

I'm not saying it's "objectively better" because of this niche purpose--I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying there is no objectivity, and anything can be "better" than anything else on a subjective level depending on what you, personally, are looking for.
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That being said, I find exclusives in of itself a massive fucking meme, and most exclusives, bar one or two, are shit anyway.
Nonsense

You're basically throwing every 1st to 6th generation console into the bin with that statement. Especially Nintendo.
Let me clarify

I more so mean with the PS4/Xbone because those two are basically trying to go toe to toe with PC in terms of power.

I give Nintendo a pass because they're THANKFULLY one of the few companies that doesn't sit and go "okay how do we make a PC but not a PC?" They actually try unique and different things and the games reflect that. If you're going to go above and beyond with the entire experience, sure, the games deserve to reflect that experience. If you're just doing your generic "how many pixels can we fit on here", then no, we don't need CoD coming out on one system first, or Sony only keeping one title.


 
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However there are certain things the PC does better
Maybe, depending on you're looking for.
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