Anyone up for some h5 coop?

RomanGladiator · March 17, 2016, 07:16:17 PM

Left off on sanghelios trying to get the achievement for beating it on heroic cool. In my room drinking. Alone pls join. Message BobaFettisAlive maybe I'll even talk to you scrub

RadicalClass32 · March 17, 2016, 07:25:36 PM

Sorry, trying to get enough req points to get that new req pack.

RomanGladiator · March 17, 2016, 07:32:48 PM

Quote from: RadicalClass32 on March 17, 2016, 07:25:36 PM

Sorry, trying to get enough req points to get that new req pack.

Good luck.

Sandtrap · March 17, 2016, 07:42:26 PM

You need to turn up the difficulty to legendary.

RomanGladiator · March 17, 2016, 07:45:46 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:42:26 PM

You need to turn up the difficulty to legendary.

That's fine, I'd get the achivement either way. I wsih there was coiop matchmaijng.

Sandtrap · March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM

Quote from: RomanGladiator on March 17, 2016, 07:45:46 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:42:26 PM
You need to turn up the difficulty to legendary.
That's fine, I'd get the achivement either way. I wsih there was coiop matchmaijng.

What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.

Deleted · March 17, 2016, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: RadicalClass32 on March 17, 2016, 07:25:36 PM

Sorry, trying to get enough req points to get that new req pack.

You can get a free one for watching the Championships

RadicalClass32 · March 17, 2016, 07:59:19 PM

Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on March 17, 2016, 07:51:00 PM

Quote from: RadicalClass32 on March 17, 2016, 07:25:36 PM
Sorry, trying to get enough req points to get that new req pack.

You can get a free one for watching the Championships

I know.

But there's this one that I saw, which is "Spartan's Armory" for 80000 req points.

Mr. Admirals · March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM

Quote from: RomanGladiator on March 17, 2016, 07:45:46 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:42:26 PM
You need to turn up the difficulty to legendary.
That's fine, I'd get the achivement either way. I wsih there was coiop matchmaijng.

What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.

That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.

Zonda · March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM

That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.

That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.

It was underused in previous titles, but the lack of local Multiplayer support for Halo 5 makes it a bit more important to give players (especially those with limited friends lists) more of a chance to play Co-Op online. Unless they plan on releasing this further down the track to iron out any kinks, I can't see a reason to axe a feature that was introduced 8 years earlier than Halo 5 itself.

BaconShelf · March 18, 2016, 06:22:41 AM

When I'm back in a couple hours I'd be up for doing the campaign achievements. Most, if not all the ones that need co-op I haven't done yet.

BaconShelf · March 18, 2016, 06:24:28 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.

It was underused in previous titles, but the lack of local Multiplayer support for Halo 5 makes it a bit more important to give players (especially those with limited friends lists) more of a chance to play Co-Op online. Unless they plan on releasing this further down the track to iron out any kinks, I can't see a reason to axe a feature that was introduced 8 years earlier than Halo 5 itself.

60fps is good though

But yeah other than that, deliberately planning releasing an unfinished game doesn't excuse the fact you sold an early access game for full price.

Zonda · March 18, 2016, 07:28:02 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 06:24:28 AM

60fps is good though

But yeah other than that, deliberately planning releasing an unfinished game doesn't excuse the fact you sold an early access game for full price.

I know fam, that tradeoff was almost fair enough, on top of them reportedly making a reasonable effort to include both features. I was saying without Split Screen, a matchmaking feature becomes more important for Co-Op campaign.

BaconShelf · March 18, 2016, 08:07:08 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 07:28:02 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 06:24:28 AM
60fps is good though

But yeah other than that, deliberately planning releasing an unfinished game doesn't excuse the fact you sold an early access game for full price.
I know fam, that tradeoff was almost fair enough, on top of them reportedly making a reasonable effort to include both features. I was saying without Split Screen, a matchmaking feature becomes more important for Co-Op campaign.

Yeah.

Honestly, I'd have been fine with them downscaling to 720 or 900p if it meant a splitscreen experience. Frame rate is far more important than resolution.

I can kind of undersand them removing matchmaking co op though, it rarely had more than like, 300 players even at the height of Reach's lifespan. Plus it had a voting system to decide level/ difficulty, which H5 doesn't have.

Spartan · March 18, 2016, 08:15:21 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 07:28:02 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 06:24:28 AM
60fps is good though

But yeah other than that, deliberately planning releasing an unfinished game doesn't excuse the fact you sold an early access game for full price.
I was saying without Split Screen, a matchmaking feature becomes more important for Co-Op campaign.

Especially with the way they were pushing Co-op too, speaking of that I'm surprised that campaign doesn't distribute REQ points or Experience points to give people more incentive to play it.

BaconShelf · March 18, 2016, 08:18:18 AM

Quote from: SpartanT on March 18, 2016, 08:15:21 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 07:28:02 AM
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 06:24:28 AM
60fps is good though

But yeah other than that, deliberately planning releasing an unfinished game doesn't excuse the fact you sold an early access game for full price.
I was saying without Split Screen, a matchmaking feature becomes more important for Co-Op campaign.
Especially with the way they were pushing Co-op too, speaking of that I'm surprised that campaign doesn't distribute REQ points or Experience points to give people more incentive to play it.

Yeah. I wish there were campaign commendations for weapon kills and enemies killed. The Halo Reach and 4 commendations extended a lot of my play-time in Campaign/ Spartan Ops because I could actually get some cR/ XP from them. Once you have the collectibles, there isn't really much reason to replay Halo 5. Having campaign matchmaking with commendations would make the focus they put on co-op with different characters and dedicated servers a lot more useful. Hopefully WZ Firefight will remedy this.

Mr. Admirals · March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.

Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

BaconShelf · March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"

It's not exactly hard to believe when there are a sizeable people who subscribe to that train of thought.

Mr. Admirals · March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"

How the fuck did I do that?

ಠ_ಠ · March 18, 2016, 04:34:44 PM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"
How the fuck did I do that?

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.
That was actually intentional

?

Mr. Admirals · March 18, 2016, 04:54:34 PM

Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 04:34:44 PM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"
How the fuck did I do that?

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.
That was actually intentional

?

No shit.

Where in my post did I convey that it was OKAY for 343i to not do that?

ಠ_ಠ · March 18, 2016, 06:04:49 PM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:54:34 PM

Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"
How the fuck did I do that?

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.
That was actually intentional

?
No shit.

Where in my post did I convey that it was OKAY for 343i to not do that?

He was just saying that it's how the tone of your post came off.

Mr. Admirals · March 18, 2016, 06:26:08 PM

Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 06:04:49 PM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"
How the fuck did I do that?

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.
That was actually intentional

?
No shit.

Where in my post did I convey that it was OKAY for 343i to not do that?
He was just saying that it's how the tone of your post came off.

Wonderful.

Apparently he can read my tone of voice with minimal descriptors.

ಠ_ಠ · March 18, 2016, 06:32:27 PM

calm the fuck down jesus

Mr. Admirals · March 18, 2016, 06:36:41 PM

Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 06:32:27 PM

calm the fuck down jesus

You want to do it too?

Cool.

Zonda · March 19, 2016, 12:58:14 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM

Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

The way it looks on text one can be forgiven for thinking so, but for me not at all. My cuntiness is more trying to call you out on giving a blanket statement such as "It was intentional," as every time I've seen somebody state that exact phrase in the context of a flaw in a game being pointed out (which is a lot) it invariably comes across as somehow trying to defend the action in question.

I encourage elaborating on (your take of) the reasoning behind excluding such a feature and your thoughts on it in future rather than stating whether it was deliberate or not. Otherwise I'm happy to continue dishing excessively venomous callouts on what comes across as blatant shilling.

Mr. Admirals · March 19, 2016, 01:44:48 AM

Quote from: Zonda on March 19, 2016, 12:58:14 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?
The way it looks on text one can be forgiven for thinking so, but for me not at all. My cuntiness is more trying to call you out on giving a blanket statement such as "It was intentional," as every time I've seen somebody state that exact phrase in the context of a flaw in a game being pointed out (which is a lot) it invariably comes across as somehow trying to defend the action in question.

I encourage elaborating on (your take of) the reasoning behind excluding such a feature and your thoughts on it in future rather than stating whether it was deliberate or not. Otherwise I'm happy to continue dishing excessively venomous callouts on what comes across as blatant shilling.

I'm required to disclose my full thoughts and opinions or face the threat of harassment?

Yeah, no. Fuck that.

Verbatim · March 19, 2016, 01:47:43 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 06:26:08 PM

Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 06:04:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"
How the fuck did I do that?

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.
That was actually intentional

?
No shit.

Where in my post did I convey that it was OKAY for 343i to not do that?
He was just saying that it's how the tone of your post came off.
Wonderful.

Apparently he can read my tone of voice with minimal descriptors.

He can't, which is why it's your responsibility to convey your message with a tone you deem appropriate.

Otherwise, you simply can't blame people for not liking your tone, or for interpreting your message in a faulty way.

Zonda · March 19, 2016, 02:09:16 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 19, 2016, 01:44:48 AM

I'm required to disclose my full thoughts and opinions or face the threat of harassment?

Yeah, no. Fuck that.

No, not really. Even a '343 decided not to include Campaign matchmaking in Halo 5. Given the low population in previous iterations of Co-Op, It's not hard to see why." would suffice. It's concise, contributes discussion, and you don't even have to spend an extra 20 seconds thinking/typing the reply.

"That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raids" as a reply to a complaint about a missing feature can not be interpreted as anything other than trying to defend said action to even the most neutral of minds. As such, my interpretation of the thread was you were just shilling for 343 without bothering to even discuss the relevant point of contention (and I'm not entirely convinced you weren't just backpedaling after the callout).

I haven't yet seen you try to make some semblance of a valid line of reasoning clear when dealing with dissenting discussion of 343 industries. You just try to shut other users up by going out on confusing tangents from the original topic, and then say you're getting harassed the moment somebody tries to call you out on a bad practice. You know full well nobody actually wishes death upon 343i developers, and nobody even has any genuine ill will towards you.

Feel free to disagree, but from my point of view you're just trying to get away with making certain nobody says a single bad word against 343i. At least with Lemon we all know he's just a shit stirrer but you genuinely seem to have some deep emotional attachment to this studio.

Mr. Admirals · March 19, 2016, 02:11:26 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 19, 2016, 01:47:43 AM

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 06:04:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: Varg on March 18, 2016, 04:34:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 18, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: Zonda on March 18, 2016, 06:18:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
That was actually intentional; like Bungie did with Destiny's raid's.
That just gives even more reason to criticize 343. You understand this, right? Like, a deliberate misstep is actually worse than at least trying to include a feature.
Is it so hard to believe that I would acknowledge such a thing?

You did kind of present it as a "They INTENDED to release it unfinished so it's okay!"
How the fuck did I do that?

Quote from: Mr. Admirals on March 17, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
Quote from: Sandtrap on March 17, 2016, 07:49:02 PM
What's that, you wanted a good, finished game?

Too bad.
That was actually intentional

?
No shit.

Where in my post did I convey that it was OKAY for 343i to not do that?
He was just saying that it's how the tone of your post came off.
Wonderful.

Apparently he can read my tone of voice with minimal descriptors.
He can't, which is why it's your responsibility to convey your message with a tone you deem appropriate.

Otherwise, you simply can't blame people for not liking your tone, or for interpreting your message in a faulty way.

You want to know the tone I conveyed that original statement in?

Neutrality.

There was literally no room in what I said to draw the conclusion: ADMIRALS IS ENTERING 3v4 DEFENSE MODE ALPHA - I NEED TO CALL HIM OUT ON THAT.

This whole thing is one giant autistic mess right now.

I mean hell, Zonda didn't even call me out on that - he was just making sure I knew the consequences of what I was saying. Now he responds by threatening to harass me unless I disclose my opinions to him if I want to make a statement.

You got Bacon with the super power of coming to premature conclusions, and then you've got Varg trying to defend and speak for Bacon when Bacon is MIA (for good reason too; probably had the foresight to bug out of this shitstorm before it began).

Can it get any more autistic? Oh wait, it can. What was a complete non-issue spun out of control is now being directed back at me as being my fault because there are people who can't keep their own biases in check. Hell, Ghost and I butt heads hardcore about Halo, but at least he's a cool enough guy to set that shit aside.