Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 02, 2014, 07:35:25 PM

Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:31:58 PM

Can we all realize that games like Destiny don't run at 30fps on all hardware for "console parity"? It's because the hardware is shit and they couldn't hit 60fps if they wanted to.

Well obviously, they went for parity with the last gen consoles and the Xbone. Density could easily be 60fps on the PS4 and probably on the Xbone if they put more effort in/reduced the 1080p to 720 or 944 (I forget the shitty middle ground).

Even if it was 1080/60fps, that wouldn't actually make it less of a bland grindfest though.

I honestly don't think they could hit 60fps unless they went for a very low resolution. How do console manufacturers expect to compete with 4k if they can't even hit 1080p? I just don't get it.

I think it's certainly possible, perhaps not right away though.
And 4k is impressive stuff but it won't be the standard for a while at least. Things will basically stay the same, with the bar being shoved up a bit for multiplats.

Consoles determine the general standard* of games, because they are the larger and more profitable demographic. When the old gen consoles are phased out, which is beginning to happen now with multiplats going for next/current gen and PC only the features/shit in the game is going to expand (Hopefully)

Whilst PC is always going to race ahead and PC exclusive games like Star Citizen are going to dazzle minds it's still going to have to follow the pace of the workhorses to a degree. I know that rustles the jimmies of a few outright elitists and I can understand the feeling when features in BF4 were cut to make it work on the last gen systems but it's just the way things are <.<

(/2am incoherent rambling)

*I mean in terms of graphics/scale/scope and the like not how good/shit it is.

Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:37:15 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 02, 2014, 07:35:25 PM

Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:31:58 PM

Can we all realize that games like Destiny don't run at 30fps on all hardware for "console parity"? It's because the hardware is shit and they couldn't hit 60fps if they wanted to.

Well obviously, they went for parity with the last gen consoles and the Xbone. Density could easily be 60fps on the PS4 and probably on the Xbone if they put more effort in/reduced the 1080p to 720 or 944 (I forget the shitty middle ground).

Even if it was 1080/60fps, that wouldn't actually make it less of a bland grindfest though.

I honestly don't think they could hit 60fps unless they went for a very low resolution. How do console manufacturers expect to compete with 4k if they can't even hit 1080p? I just don't get it.

I think it's certainly possible, perhaps not right away though.
And 4k is impressive stuff but it won't be the standard for a while at least. Things will basically stay the same, with the bar being shoved up a bit for multiplats.

Consoles determine the general standard* of games, because they are the larger and more profitable demographic. When the old gen consoles are phased out, which is beginning to happen now with multiplats going for next/current gen and PC only the features/shit in the game is going to expand (Hopefully)

Whilst PC is always going to race ahead and PC exclusive games like Star Citizen are going to dazzle minds it's still going to have to follow the pace of the workhorses to a degree. I know that rustles the jimmies of a few outright elitists and I can understand the feeling when features in BF4 were cut to make it work on the last gen systems but it's just the way things are <.<

(/2am incoherent rambling)

*I mean in terms of graphics/scale/scope and the like not how good/shit it is.

One thing though.

PC gaming is a bit more profitable than console gaming at the moment and the gap between them user wise is closing fast. It's kind of why you have all these console "exclusives*" that also have PC ports at the moment.