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I don't know trap they are both massive decisions. Have you thought into a third option like Elegiac said. Both ways have you investing but your mother is getting older like you said. Can they survive without you if you go look for a better job?
Quote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:52:08 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:50:01 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:46:35 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:21:51 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.Hrrrmm. I'll think about it... maybe you should leave, but don't go to a job that breaks you. There must be something less drastic you could do for one or two years that would leave you able to pay for fixing the place up a bit, so that there isn't the worry of maintenance or physical labour being such a strain on whoever's left behind. Would they be able to hire a replacement for you, at any time? If what I said is possible, then you'd have the option of leaving again and finding a more reasonable job, or career option, with decent money so that you could help the repayment process along without ruining yourself.We can't hire anybody because we can't even pay minimum wage. And, nobody in my town stays. Young kids either fuck off to the city because there's not much here, or they inherit their family business like farming and so on. I am a rare person in this town it seems.What about the other thing I mentioned?Finding a job around here like that is pretty damn tough. You're either a bigshot who gets payed truckloads, or you're a grunt who goes until you break.
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:50:01 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:46:35 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:21:51 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.Hrrrmm. I'll think about it... maybe you should leave, but don't go to a job that breaks you. There must be something less drastic you could do for one or two years that would leave you able to pay for fixing the place up a bit, so that there isn't the worry of maintenance or physical labour being such a strain on whoever's left behind. Would they be able to hire a replacement for you, at any time? If what I said is possible, then you'd have the option of leaving again and finding a more reasonable job, or career option, with decent money so that you could help the repayment process along without ruining yourself.We can't hire anybody because we can't even pay minimum wage. And, nobody in my town stays. Young kids either fuck off to the city because there's not much here, or they inherit their family business like farming and so on. I am a rare person in this town it seems.What about the other thing I mentioned?
Quote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:46:35 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:21:51 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.Hrrrmm. I'll think about it... maybe you should leave, but don't go to a job that breaks you. There must be something less drastic you could do for one or two years that would leave you able to pay for fixing the place up a bit, so that there isn't the worry of maintenance or physical labour being such a strain on whoever's left behind. Would they be able to hire a replacement for you, at any time? If what I said is possible, then you'd have the option of leaving again and finding a more reasonable job, or career option, with decent money so that you could help the repayment process along without ruining yourself.We can't hire anybody because we can't even pay minimum wage. And, nobody in my town stays. Young kids either fuck off to the city because there's not much here, or they inherit their family business like farming and so on. I am a rare person in this town it seems.
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:21:51 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.Hrrrmm. I'll think about it... maybe you should leave, but don't go to a job that breaks you. There must be something less drastic you could do for one or two years that would leave you able to pay for fixing the place up a bit, so that there isn't the worry of maintenance or physical labour being such a strain on whoever's left behind. Would they be able to hire a replacement for you, at any time? If what I said is possible, then you'd have the option of leaving again and finding a more reasonable job, or career option, with decent money so that you could help the repayment process along without ruining yourself.
Quote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.
I'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.
1. Stay in the scenario.2. Adjust to the scenario.3. Escape the scenario.These are the 4 options, I'd say. All aren't guaranteed though.4. Get lucky.
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:55:12 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:52:08 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:50:01 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:46:35 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:21:51 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.Hrrrmm. I'll think about it... maybe you should leave, but don't go to a job that breaks you. There must be something less drastic you could do for one or two years that would leave you able to pay for fixing the place up a bit, so that there isn't the worry of maintenance or physical labour being such a strain on whoever's left behind. Would they be able to hire a replacement for you, at any time? If what I said is possible, then you'd have the option of leaving again and finding a more reasonable job, or career option, with decent money so that you could help the repayment process along without ruining yourself.We can't hire anybody because we can't even pay minimum wage. And, nobody in my town stays. Young kids either fuck off to the city because there's not much here, or they inherit their family business like farming and so on. I am a rare person in this town it seems.What about the other thing I mentioned?Finding a job around here like that is pretty damn tough. You're either a bigshot who gets payed truckloads, or you're a grunt who goes until you break.Come on, man, there has to be a middle ground of work, that is hard work, sure, but not harmful to you in a major way, and pays more than you're getting now. Anything must be an improvement over what you currently make, so you wouldn't have to go to an oil rig to improve the situation a little. Fix things up.
Quote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 03:02:41 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:55:12 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:52:08 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:50:01 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:46:35 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 02:21:51 PMQuote from: Elegiac on September 16, 2014, 02:19:23 PMI'd stay. But I'd be looking for a third option. I'd be hellbent on a third option. If I was put in your position I'd be scheming my brains out. I'm not going to vote.I've been looking for a third way to do things for years now. There is no middle ground here.Hrrrmm. I'll think about it... maybe you should leave, but don't go to a job that breaks you. There must be something less drastic you could do for one or two years that would leave you able to pay for fixing the place up a bit, so that there isn't the worry of maintenance or physical labour being such a strain on whoever's left behind. Would they be able to hire a replacement for you, at any time? If what I said is possible, then you'd have the option of leaving again and finding a more reasonable job, or career option, with decent money so that you could help the repayment process along without ruining yourself.We can't hire anybody because we can't even pay minimum wage. And, nobody in my town stays. Young kids either fuck off to the city because there's not much here, or they inherit their family business like farming and so on. I am a rare person in this town it seems.What about the other thing I mentioned?Finding a job around here like that is pretty damn tough. You're either a bigshot who gets payed truckloads, or you're a grunt who goes until you break.Come on, man, there has to be a middle ground of work, that is hard work, sure, but not harmful to you in a major way, and pays more than you're getting now. Anything must be an improvement over what you currently make, so you wouldn't have to go to an oil rig to improve the situation a little. Fix things up.Originally, my plan hinged on buying land. If I could get a piece of land, and pay it off for myself, which would be easier and faster to do than the debts, then we'd have a piece of security. As I said, I think the only other thing I can do is send out lines with the contractors. They're the only other source of work I could get in the area. They don't pay a lot either, and it's dependant on how well the summer goes for them.But as of late the debts have jumped up faster than we can keep them down. I've got to find something I can do in the meantime to pay all this shit off before everything else starts falling apart.
How did your family get into such debt?
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 16, 2014, 06:36:27 PMI've called up my old construction company, and they'd hire me back up on a job in a flash. There's a school being built, down south in one of the bigger cities. If I packed my shit tonight, I could be there in six hours and in four days I could be working for them. 5 year contract, 16 bucks an hour.If I stuck with that job, I could pay for everything...16 bucks an hour is really good....maybe you should go for it.
I've called up my old construction company, and they'd hire me back up on a job in a flash. There's a school being built, down south in one of the bigger cities. If I packed my shit tonight, I could be there in six hours and in four days I could be working for them. 5 year contract, 16 bucks an hour.If I stuck with that job, I could pay for everything...
Quote from: Erives on September 16, 2014, 02:55:28 PMI don't know trap they are both massive decisions. Have you thought into a third option like Elegiac said. Both ways have you investing but your mother is getting older like you said. Can they survive without you if you go look for a better job?The very best I think I could do if I stayed, would be to send out some lines with the contractors in the area. Making any decent amount of money up here is fucking hard when it's -30 and you've got 5 foot snowdrifts all around for 7-8 months of the year. But in the summer, the contractor jobs pay semi decently. But again, this all depends on if they're having a good year too.
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