Quote from: Solonoid on January 21, 2019, 07:25:37 PM

Quote from: Jet Wave on January 21, 2019, 06:09:37 PM

wait




Second Class is now Noelle?

more like this

I just finished Breaking Bad and now I'm a little empty inside

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

I would like that

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 08:07:35 AM

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

yeahh if you have a source for those statistics that'd be great

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 08:07:35 AM

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

I don't get this. How is being nice and accepting of someone's transition bad? Sure, you're not a woman but you're also not a man anymore and that's what's important.

lmao unless you mean tranny suicide rates in which case BRUH

just look em up everyone knows over 40% of trannies commit suicide by 30

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 10:22:22 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 09:53:55 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 08:19:50 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 08:07:35 AM

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

I don't get this. How is being nice and accepting of someone's transition bad? Sure, you're not a woman but you're also not a man anymore and that's what's important.

because acceptance should be indifference

these groups are more interested in celebrating mental illness than what's psychologically healthy, which would be to seek therapy instead of reinforcing the belief that if you looked the way you want, then all of your self-hatred and inability to live with the person that you are would go away

it's overly indulgent and not good for you in the long run to associate with these groups

I literally cannot grasp what you're saying. I am seeking therapy. I'm also transitioning. Why is it bad to have a positive outlook? Once I'm more feminine, that wont kill my self hatred but it will certainly make it better.

as usual, I'm amazed  y your ability to take things as being about or directed toward you

I'm saying these things here, now, because velox seems to think those groups he's linking you to will do you good, when it's plain to see that trans groups and communities only harm trans people

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 12:12:58 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 11:37:07 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 10:22:22 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 09:53:55 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 08:19:50 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 08:07:35 AM

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

I don't get this. How is being nice and accepting of someone's transition bad? Sure, you're not a woman but you're also not a man anymore and that's what's important.

because acceptance should be indifference

these groups are more interested in celebrating mental illness than what's psychologically healthy, which would be to seek therapy instead of reinforcing the belief that if you looked the way you want, then all of your self-hatred and inability to live with the person that you are would go away

it's overly indulgent and not good for you in the long run to associate with these groups

I literally cannot grasp what you're saying. I am seeking therapy. I'm also transitioning. Why is it bad to have a positive outlook? Once I'm more feminine, that wont kill my self hatred but it will certainly make it better.

as usual, I'm amazed  y your ability to take things as being about or directed toward you

I'm saying these things here, now, because velox seems to think those groups he's linking you to will do you good, when it's plain to see that trans groups and communities only harm trans people

yeah people saying nice lies to me makes me feel better, ignorance is bliss, and if you can't see that you're dumb

I want to feel appreciated even if it's a lie

everyone wants to be appreciated, but it's a lot like napalm said on the last page, you should find people who appreciate you for who you are, not people who feel kinship with you for the fact that you feel uncomfortable with your body, or what it actually is in most cases (only Das would be so forthcoming), they want to stick it in you because that's their fetish

Make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity and never even bring it up. It would be unhealthy to be friends with people who will never accept you, but the other side of that coin is that it's unhealthy to be friends with people who only care about the fact that you wish you'd been born with a vagina.

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 12:33:00 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 12:23:20 PM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 12:12:58 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 11:37:07 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 10:22:22 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 09:53:55 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 08:19:50 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 08:07:35 AM

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

I don't get this. How is being nice and accepting of someone's transition bad? Sure, you're not a woman but you're also not a man anymore and that's what's important.

because acceptance should be indifference

these groups are more interested in celebrating mental illness than what's psychologically healthy, which would be to seek therapy instead of reinforcing the belief that if you looked the way you want, then all of your self-hatred and inability to live with the person that you are would go away

it's overly indulgent and not good for you in the long run to associate with these groups

I literally cannot grasp what you're saying. I am seeking therapy. I'm also transitioning. Why is it bad to have a positive outlook? Once I'm more feminine, that wont kill my self hatred but it will certainly make it better.

as usual, I'm amazed  y your ability to take things as being about or directed toward you

I'm saying these things here, now, because velox seems to think those groups he's linking you to will do you good, when it's plain to see that trans groups and communities only harm trans people

yeah people saying nice lies to me makes me feel better, ignorance is bliss, and if you can't see that you're dumb

I want to feel appreciated even if it's a lie

everyone wants to be appreciated, but it's a lot like napalm said on the last page, you should find people who appreciate you for who you are, not people who feel kinship with you for the fact that you feel uncomfortable with your body, or what it actually is in most cases (only Das would be so forthcoming), they want to stick it in you because that's their fetish

Make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity and never even bring it up. It would be unhealthy to be friends with people who will never accept you, but the other side of that coin is that it's unhealthy to be friends with people who only care about the fact that you wish you'd been born with a vagina.

What? no one is friends with trans people because they're trans, they're doing trans people a SERVICE by even being around them enough to contain their revulsion and pretend to be their friend. Trans people arent special or cool, theyre disgusting and its not some perk to be one or have a friend whos one. I dont know what youre talking about.

people like you justify gatekeepers

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 12:35:45 PM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 12:33:00 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 12:23:20 PM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 12:12:58 PM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 11:37:07 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 10:22:22 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 09:53:55 AM

Quote from: Carmen on January 22, 2019, 08:19:50 AM

Quote from: Solonoid on January 22, 2019, 08:07:35 AM

Quote from: Killua on January 22, 2019, 04:38:33 AM

You and your identity are valid. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You're not a "second-class woman". You're not a man. You're you.

This site isn't the most welcoming space for trans people, unfortunately. But there are online communities out there which are welcoming and accepting. I'd rather not link them here in case some troll were to go there to spread toxicity, but I can hit you up with a PM if you'd like.

tranny "safe spaces" are the real cancer

they're full of conversion cultists, and dominated by rhetoric serving only the obfuscation of real issues for trans people, resulting in higher suicide rates when people with gender dysphoria find themselves still unable to come to terms with their mental illness after being told that the only treatment they require is cosmetic, and of course also for people without gender dysphoria who are seduced into transitioning because they think it would make them beautiful, or valid, or simply because they admire someone.

The absolute best course of action is to make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity, and avoid extremists on either side altogether. That's how normal people behave, and the only way to live with this condition is to try to learn to live around it, rather than focus your entire life on it.

Just be a normal person.

I don't get this. How is being nice and accepting of someone's transition bad? Sure, you're not a woman but you're also not a man anymore and that's what's important.

because acceptance should be indifference

these groups are more interested in celebrating mental illness than what's psychologically healthy, which would be to seek therapy instead of reinforcing the belief that if you looked the way you want, then all of your self-hatred and inability to live with the person that you are would go away

it's overly indulgent and not good for you in the long run to associate with these groups

I literally cannot grasp what you're saying. I am seeking therapy. I'm also transitioning. Why is it bad to have a positive outlook? Once I'm more feminine, that wont kill my self hatred but it will certainly make it better.

as usual, I'm amazed  y your ability to take things as being about or directed toward you

I'm saying these things here, now, because velox seems to think those groups he's linking you to will do you good, when it's plain to see that trans groups and communities only harm trans people

yeah people saying nice lies to me makes me feel better, ignorance is bliss, and if you can't see that you're dumb

I want to feel appreciated even if it's a lie

everyone wants to be appreciated, but it's a lot like napalm said on the last page, you should find people who appreciate you for who you are, not people who feel kinship with you for the fact that you feel uncomfortable with your body, or what it actually is in most cases (only Das would be so forthcoming), they want to stick it in you because that's their fetish

Make friends who are indifferent to your gender identity and never even bring it up. It would be unhealthy to be friends with people who will never accept you, but the other side of that coin is that it's unhealthy to be friends with people who only care about the fact that you wish you'd been born with a vagina.

What? no one is friends with trans people because they're trans, they're doing trans people a SERVICE by even being around them enough to contain their revulsion and pretend to be their friend. Trans people arent special or cool, theyre disgusting and its not some perk to be one or have a friend whos one. I dont know what youre talking about.

people like you justify gatekeepers

I hate gatekeepers, what I said has no connection to that

who am I locking out?? who am I saying to, "no, you're not one of us because ____"