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Would you rather be skinny or muscular

 
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Why?
because you achieve nothing of value

it is, in a phrase, a waste of time


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
...They're not synonyms at all. Being "Thin" speaks very little about your actual athletic training or your cardiovascular health.
Thin and skinny are synonyms....buff and muscular are synonyms. I never said thin and fit are synonyms, but yeah, if you're not chubby or fat, you're in shape. You don't need to have muscles to be physically fit.


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Why?
because you achieve nothing of value

it is, in a phrase, a waste of time
Isn't nothing worthwhile to you, though?


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
If you don't exercise, then you're not physically fit. If you're physically fit, then you will have developed muscles. How does this need saying?
I do exercise, and I don't have muscles galore like some people, because I just do cardio. Being fit just means you're not out of shape.


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
...They're not synonyms at all. Being "Thin" speaks very little about your actual athletic training or your cardiovascular health.
Thin and skinny are synonyms....buff and muscular are synonyms. I never said thin and fit are synonyms, but yeah, if you're not chubby or fat, you're in shape. You don't need to have muscles to be physically fit.
I don't think you have a typical definition of "In-shape," then. That phrase, in all of my training and athletic activities, has always been used in reference to athletic capacity, not a person's body type.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
...They're not synonyms at all. Being "Thin" speaks very little about your actual athletic training or your cardiovascular health.
Thin and skinny are synonyms....buff and muscular are synonyms. I never said thin and fit are synonyms, but yeah, if you're not chubby or fat, you're in shape. You don't need to have muscles to be physically fit.
So, if you're anorexic and weigh 90lbs, you're fit/in shape?


 
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Isn't nothing worthwhile to you, though?
No. Building shit for other people to use is worthwhile. Helping other people is worthwhile. Impressing other people by building yourself? That's not worthwhile. You're not actually doing anything.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
If you don't exercise, then you're not physically fit. If you're physically fit, then you will have developed muscles. How does this need saying?
I do exercise, and I don't have muscles galore like some people, because I just do cardio. Being fit just means you're not out of shape.
The heart is a muscle.


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
...They're not synonyms at all. Being "Thin" speaks very little about your actual athletic training or your cardiovascular health.
Thin and skinny are synonyms....buff and muscular are synonyms. I never said thin and fit are synonyms, but yeah, if you're not chubby or fat, you're in shape. You don't need to have muscles to be physically fit.
So, if you're anorexic and weigh 90lbs, you're fit/in shape?
No, because if you're anorexic, you're out of shape. This doesn't really need explaining. If you can run a mile in under 8 minutes, you're in shape. Anorexics can't do that, and neither can chubby people.

I don't think you have a typical definition of "In-shape," then. That phrase, in all of my training and athletic activities, has always been used in reference to athletic capacity, not a person's body type.
You're the one who's using it in relation to body type. Your whole argument is "can't be fit if you don't have muscles". While, in reality, it all amounts to what you can do.


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The heart is a muscle.
The heart is an organ...not a muscle.


 
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The heart is a muscle.
The heart is an organ...not a muscle.
the heart is a muscle, bro

this is like

second grade biology


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No. Building shit for other people to use is worthwhile. Helping other people is worthwhile. Impressing other people by building yourself? That's not worthwhile. You're not actually doing anything.

Exercising can help increase your capacity to help others too, though :^)


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The heart is a muscle.
The heart is an organ...not a muscle.
the heart is a muscle, bro

this is like

second grade biology
my second grade teacher really dropped the ball then


 
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Exercising can help increase your capacity to help others too, though :^)
Barely.


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Isn't nothing worthwhile to you, though?
No. Building shit for other people to use is worthwhile. Helping other people is worthwhile. Impressing other people by building yourself? That's not worthwhile. You're not actually doing anything.
If working out improved my social adeptness, allowed me to form a broader range of bonds with a more diverse group of people, and improved my communications skills (Which it did in all three manners for me), then it wasn't a waste of time, because those three improvements are directly related to my capacity to help others. Granted, this isn't really the purpose that most people use initially when they decide to pick up strength training, but like many other things, whether or not something can be considered "Useful" is determined by how its progress and consequences are handled.


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Your love gets me so high
i'm not even sure what you guys are arguing about at this point

as for the OP, a nice mix of a lean build with toned muscles is the god-tier of body types.


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Exercising can help increase your capacity to help others too, though :^)
Barely.
If you're a construction worker it's important.


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Your whole argument is "can't be fit if you don't have muscles"
Lil' challenge for you.

Go back and find where I said this.

Seriously. Do it.

I can wait.


 
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If you're a construction worker it's important.
Not everybody is a construction worker.


 
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If working out improved my social adeptness, allowed me to form a broader range of bonds with a more diverse group of people, and improved my communications skills (Which it did in all three manners for me)
You should have been able to do all of that without strength training. That's my argument. Strength training is a placebo.


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If working out improved my social adeptness, allowed me to form a broader range of bonds with a more diverse group of people, and improved my communications skills (Which it did in all three manners for me)
You should have been able to do all of that without strength training. That's my argument. Strength training is a placebo.
Why should I? Through sheer power of will and thought? As wonderful as that would be, and as fantastic as I'd love for my entire mentality to be free of bias and universally not-so-important concerns, that wasn't the case for me, and it isn't the case for many people. It can be a means to an end that does provide benefits to one's self and, in many cases, others. Placebo or not, it has the capacity to work wonders; and that's what matters in the end.


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EDIT: Actually, I misread this post. Never mind. Refer to my last one only.
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man you guys are getting really worked up about this
Apparently the thought that some people benefit in various ways from physical exercise/strength training, while others don't, is difficult to get.

Also, that nobody is the same in so whether or not a person should have more or less muscle widely varies.


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You're the one who's using it in relation to body type.
And, for the record, I think you're the odd man out here. I've honestly never once heard physical appearance alone equated to the phrase "In-shape." And I've grown very accustomed to athletic and fitness jargon. It is always used in the context of athletic capabilities.
I miscredited Assassin's quote to you earlier, but I'm saying athletic capabilities matter a lot more than physical appearance.


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You're the one who's using it in relation to body type.
And, for the record, I think you're the odd man out here. I've honestly never once heard physical appearance alone equated to the phrase "In-shape." And I've grown very accustomed to athletic and fitness jargon. It is always used in the context of athletic capabilities.
I miscredited Assassin's quote to you earlier, but I'm saying athletic capabilities matter a lot more than physical appearance.
I mean, in terms of functionality, yes, but there are varying types of functionality that disallow certain physical skills to be applied usefully in other areas of manual labor. Standing outside this issue as well, whether or not somebody's physical appearance matters more or less than their ability to perform some task is mostly subjective.


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You're the one who's using it in relation to body type.
And, for the record, I think you're the odd man out here. I've honestly never once heard physical appearance alone equated to the phrase "In-shape." And I've grown very accustomed to athletic and fitness jargon. It is always used in the context of athletic capabilities.
I miscredited Assassin's quote to you earlier, but I'm saying athletic capabilities matter a lot more than physical appearance.
I mean, in terms of functionality, yes, but there are varying types of functionality that disallow certain physical skills to be applied usefully in other areas of manual labor. Standing outside this issue as well, whether or not somebody's physical appearance matters more or less than their ability to perform some task is mostly subjective.
I'm talking about the "fit" definition. There's a big difference between looking like a bodybuilder and being in shape. If you're thin, but can run around, play sports, etc, without getting winded then you're in shape. It's a general term.


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You're the one who's using it in relation to body type.
And, for the record, I think you're the odd man out here. I've honestly never once heard physical appearance alone equated to the phrase "In-shape." And I've grown very accustomed to athletic and fitness jargon. It is always used in the context of athletic capabilities.
I miscredited Assassin's quote to you earlier, but I'm saying athletic capabilities matter a lot more than physical appearance.
I mean, in terms of functionality, yes, but there are varying types of functionality that disallow certain physical skills to be applied usefully in other areas of manual labor. Standing outside this issue as well, whether or not somebody's physical appearance matters more or less than their ability to perform some task is mostly subjective.
I'm talking about the "fit" definition. There's a big difference between looking like a bodybuilder and being in shape. If you're thin, but can run around, play sports, etc, without getting winded then you're in shape. It's a general term.
Dude, it sounds like you're only considering cardio to mean in shape, and that muscle strength is nothing. That's pretty silly.


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Dude, it sounds like you're only considering cardio to mean in shape, and that muscle strength is nothing. That's pretty silly.
No, I'm considering being in shape to mean being in shape. How you get there is irrelevant. If you lift weights every day and stay in shape while gaining muscle, that's great. If you run on a treadmill every day and stay in shape without gaining muscle, that's great, too.


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I'm talking about the "fit" definition. There's a big difference between looking like a bodybuilder and being in shape. If you're thin, but can run around, play sports, etc, without getting winded then you're in shape. It's a general term.
If you can run around, play sports, etc without getting winded in any body type, then you're in shape. If a slightly overweight person trains more vigorously to be able to run long distances, then they are more "In-shape" than a skinny person that cannot perform as optimally. "Fitness" is only controlled by physical appearance to a degree. The degree is rather large, but it leads to misconceptions.


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I'm talking about the "fit" definition. There's a big difference between looking like a bodybuilder and being in shape. If you're thin, but can run around, play sports, etc, without getting winded then you're in shape. It's a general term.
If you can run around, play sports, etc without getting winded in any body type, then you're in shape. If a slightly overweight person trains more vigorously to be able to run long distances, then they are more "In-shape" than a skinny person that cannot perform as optimally. "Fitness" is only controlled by physical appearance to a degree. The degree is rather large, but it leads to misconceptions.
I agree completely. This is what I've been trying to say.