Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.

That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:27:09 PM

Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.

That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:34:19 PM

Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:27:09 PM

Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.

That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:18:30 PM

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.

No, I didn't. Nothing that you underlined even implies that on their own; and they're even more easily defensible with context. In fact, the second sentence you underlined is in direct support of your position. That entire paragraph was an objection to the idea that the benefits experienced from weightlifting were solely because of the physique gained from it. That isn't the case, as I explained that engaging in that activity as the secondary benefit of potentially giving you boosts in confidence, mental clarity, and social adeptness.

You are arguing that I implied a black-and-white "If you don't lift weights, you can't have confidence" mentality. It is incredibly easy to see, when reading my posts, that that is not the case whatsoever. End of story.

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:41:05 PM

Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:36:38 PM

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:34:19 PM

Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:27:09 PM

Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.

That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 09:18:30 PM

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.

No, I didn't. Nothing that you underlined even implies that on their own; and they're even more easily defensible with context. That entire paragraph was an objection to the idea that the benefits experienced from weightlifting were solely because of the physique gained from it. That isn't the case, as I explained that engaging in that activity as the secondary benefit of potentially giving you boosts in confidence, mental clarity, and social adeptness.

You are arguing that I implied a black-and-white "If you don't lift weights, you can't have confidence" mentality. It is incredibly easy to see, when reading my posts, that that is not the case whatsoever. End of story.

You're obviously just skimming my posts, because I have never expressed that mentality. I underlined those two things, because the first one shows the subject that we're talking about (strength training), and the second says that "you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body." The implication being that becoming more comfortable and proud of your body is directly tied to gaining muscle. When there are many, many more ways than that for it to happen.

Yes, the statement is obviously in reference to strength training. That was the entire subject of my post. That does not mean that the sentence was only applicable to the directly-mentioned subject. And yet, for the third time, it still states afterwards that it can give you those benefits. Are you seriously this dense? I don't understand how you seemingly keep forgetting how I specified my meaning with the use of that simple word.

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also this implies that I'm like, actively trying to change my gender

which I'm not

How did I know I would get that response

>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 15, 2015, 10:35:18 PM

>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh

Thats the excuse to hide thats theyre just thirsty and trying to get some tail.

Or y'know they just want to be fit, just like how most people don't want to be immobile fleshy tubes of fat.

I cared about the fact you were equating being comfortable and proud of your body to strength training.

Because for many people, those things are equated. I don't understand what the problem is with this.

Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 09:57:01 PM

I cared about the fact you were equating being comfortable and proud of your body to strength training.

Because for many people, those things are equated. I don't understand what the problem is with this.

I saw you using it as a blanket and not a situational thing, but I guess I was wrong.

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 10:46:50 PM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 15, 2015, 10:35:18 PM

>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh

Not really.

not really what

I don't see why you view it as problematic that people are more proud and confident in their bodies if they decide to work out for whatever physique they may be trying to achieve.

You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.

You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.

Quote from: Winy on September 15, 2015, 10:51:07 PM

I don't see why you view it as problematic that people are more proud and confident in their bodies if they decide to work out for whatever physique they may be trying to achieve.

i don't think it's problematic—i think it's pathetic

it's a literal non-achievement

Why?

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 15, 2015, 10:53:11 PM

Quote from: Carsonogen on September 15, 2015, 10:42:34 PM

You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.

You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.

Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.

If you don't exercise, then you're not physically fit. If you're physically fit, then you will have developed muscles. How does this need saying?