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Would you rather be skinny or muscular

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My objection to your view had nothing to do with whether or not muscle-building activities suited your tastes; I never once stated that. My initial disagreement stemmed from what I understood as your claim that people with muscular bodies experienced benefits solely based on their appearance, and that is demonstrably wrong.


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Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.


 
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My objection to your view had nothing to do with whether or not muscle-building activities suited your tastes; I never once stated that. My initial disagreement stemmed from what I understood as your claim that people with muscular bodies experienced benefits solely based on their appearance, and that is demonstrably wrong.
I never said that. I get the whole "I'm buff, so I'm more confident, so I'm more socially appealing," routine. But the problem with that is equating the A to the C, the buffness to the social appeal. When really, it all comes down to confidence. Visual appeal definitely has a factor in that, though. People like manly men and girly girls, and buffness is definitely a manly trait.

But really, all that matters is if you're comfortable in your body. If you like it. I would hate to have some Schwarzenegger figure.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.


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I really enjoyed reading this thread lol.


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Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
No, I didn't. Nothing that you underlined even implies that on their own; and they're even more easily defensible with context. In fact, the second sentence you underlined is in direct support of your position. That entire paragraph was an objection to the idea that the benefits experienced from weightlifting were solely because of the physique gained from it. That isn't the case, as I explained that engaging in that activity as the secondary benefit of potentially giving you boosts in confidence, mental clarity, and social adeptness.

You are arguing that I implied a black-and-white "If you don't lift weights, you can't have confidence" mentality. It is incredibly easy to see, when reading my posts, that that is not the case whatsoever. End of story.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
No, I didn't. Nothing that you underlined even implies that on their own; and they're even more easily defensible with context. That entire paragraph was an objection to the idea that the benefits experienced from weightlifting were solely because of the physique gained from it. That isn't the case, as I explained that engaging in that activity as the secondary benefit of potentially giving you boosts in confidence, mental clarity, and social adeptness.

You are arguing that I implied a black-and-white "If you don't lift weights, you can't have confidence" mentality. It is incredibly easy to see, when reading my posts, that that is not the case whatsoever. End of story.
You're obviously just skimming my posts, because I have never expressed that mentality. I underlined those two things, because the first one shows the subject that we're talking about (strength training), and the second says that "you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body." The implication being that becoming more comfortable and proud of your body is directly tied to gaining muscle. When there are many, many more ways than that for it to happen.


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Yeah, and the implication is that you can only become more comfortable and proud of your body through being muscular.
That's also false. At no point did I ever state or imply that it was the only way to boost your confidence. To say that it can be a means to do so is absolutely not the same as stating it is the only way. And, if you read back, you can see that I only wrote the former.

You definitely implied it.

You are making the misjudgement of assuming that all benefits of doing strength training come from reactive consequences, and that these reactive consequences are solely derived from your physique. This isn't the case; you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body. These are all internal properties that affect your ability to communicate with people.
No, I didn't. Nothing that you underlined even implies that on their own; and they're even more easily defensible with context. That entire paragraph was an objection to the idea that the benefits experienced from weightlifting were solely because of the physique gained from it. That isn't the case, as I explained that engaging in that activity as the secondary benefit of potentially giving you boosts in confidence, mental clarity, and social adeptness.

You are arguing that I implied a black-and-white "If you don't lift weights, you can't have confidence" mentality. It is incredibly easy to see, when reading my posts, that that is not the case whatsoever. End of story.
You're obviously just skimming my posts, because I have never expressed that mentality. I underlined those two things, because the first one shows the subject that we're talking about (strength training), and the second says that "you can develop a much greater sense of self-worth, confidence, and social ability through becoming more comfortable and proud of your body." The implication being that becoming more comfortable and proud of your body is directly tied to gaining muscle. When there are many, many more ways than that for it to happen.
Yes, the statement is obviously in reference to strength training. That was the entire subject of my post. That does not mean that the sentence was only applicable to the directly-mentioned subject. And yet, for the third time, it still states afterwards that it can give you those benefits. Are you seriously this dense? I don't understand how you seemingly keep forgetting how I specified my meaning with the use of that simple word.


 
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I don't care about the "can" part, I cared about the fact you were equating being comfortable and proud of your body to strength training. But whatever, we're just arguing semantics at this point.

Point is, the idea that being buff is some holy grail for men to achieve might not be in your mind, but it's definitely part of the collective myth of what all boys should do. If you're a woman, all that matters is whether you're fat or not. But for men, if you're not Hercules or trying to be him, you're a "betamax", whatever that means.


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ITT: OP is obviously a tranny scum but is in denial about it

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tranny
also this implies that I'm like, actively trying to change my gender

which I'm not


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tranny
also this implies that I'm like, actively trying to change my gender

which I'm not
Lol whatever you say


 
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How did I know I would get that response


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If that means turning into Jive Turkey then Id rather be as skinny as a fucking twig.


 
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>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh


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>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh
Thats the excuse to hide thats theyre just thirsty and trying to get some tail.


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>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh
Thats the excuse to hide thats theyre just thirsty and trying to get some tail.
Or y'know they just want to be fit, just like how most people don't want to be immobile fleshy tubes of fat.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.


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I cared about the fact you were equating being comfortable and proud of your body to strength training.
Because for many people, those things are equated. I don't understand what the problem is with this.


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>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

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Not really.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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I cared about the fact you were equating being comfortable and proud of your body to strength training.
Because for many people, those things are equated. I don't understand what the problem is with this.
I saw you using it as a blanket and not a situational thing, but I guess I was wrong.


 
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>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

smh
Not really.
not really what


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>needing to be muscular in order to feel comfortable/proud/confident with your body

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Not really.
not really what
I don't see why you view it as problematic that people are more proud and confident in their bodies if they decide to work out for whatever physique they may be trying to achieve.


 
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I don't see why you view it as problematic that people are more proud and confident in their bodies if they decide to work out for whatever physique they may be trying to achieve.
i don't think it's problematic—i think it's pathetic

it's a literal non-achievement

but i mean, whatever—do your thing

i work out, too, but i don't act like it's gonna make my life any better


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.


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I don't see why you view it as problematic that people are more proud and confident in their bodies if they decide to work out for whatever physique they may be trying to achieve.
i don't think it's problematic—i think it's pathetic

it's a literal non-achievement
Why?


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
...They're not synonyms at all. Being "Thin" speaks very little about your actual athletic training or your cardiovascular health.


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You can be fit without being buff. Being thin is being fit, and it looks way less gross.
You said muscled, having muscles is a requirement for being fit. Are we using thin/skinny, and buff/muscular  interchangeably? If so, that's kinda dumb.
Uh, no. Not at all. You don't need muscles to be fit. If you're thin, you're fit.

And yeah....they're synonyms.
If you don't exercise, then you're not physically fit. If you're physically fit, then you will have developed muscles. How does this need saying?